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Ready to sleep after that. Reading that was as boring as watching tika-taka.
i agree.
Ready to sleep after that. Reading that was as boring as watching tika-taka.
Ready to sleep after that. Reading that was as boring as watching tika-taka.
Philosophy is nothing without the players that can execute to the philosophy. Look where LVG's philosophy brought us?you can't slate the guy for believing in a philosophy
a philosophy that dominated football for 10 years give or take
interesting read
Going to use mediapunta in my next post to look smart.
which makes it all the more strange that we appointed LVG in the first placePhilosophy is nothing without the players that can execute to the philosophy. Look where LVG's philosophy brought us?
That philosophy either requires you to build the talents from a young age through your youth system (like Spain did) or riches to acquire you the talents that fit that philosophy. One requires time and if you don't have time, you throw lots of money at it.
He's a fundamentalist, he believes in what he wants and leaves out parts of ityou can't slate the guy for believing in a philosophy
a philosophy that dominated football for 10 years give or take
interesting read
Respect Xavi but his complete refusal to even appreciate how others choose to play their football is irritating.They didn't want to play football.
me tooHe's a fundamentalist, he believes in what he wants and leaves out parts of it
"Madrid didn't want to play football", well, you can't expect other people aiming to beat you on your terms
"How players like Cazorla, Modric or Silva weren't signed for Barça?", because guys like you have the ego of an emperor and frown about sharing minutes for the benefit of the team, you expected to play 90 minutes 2 times a week even at 34 y/o and getting flayed by any midfield with a little pace.
"Spain won without having any physicality", not only Pique, Ramos and Puyol, he's forgetting about Senna, how Capdevilla ran that left flank for 90 minutes every game, how Villa and Torres chased defenders like dogs and attempted runs just so our midfield could have more space, how strong Xabi Alonso is... physicality is not only about having 11 players built like Vieira, it takes a lot more.
The more he talks, the less I can stand this guy
He does talk Simeone's and Mourinho's football down. The whole interview is a fluff piece. Every point he makes is turned back around to Barca. If you want insight into how much Xavi enjoys one kind of football then this was certainly an insightful article. Take out comments about Pep, Messi, Iniesta and Busquets and what are you left with?It's baffling. Forget about tiki-taka or Guardiola or Barcelona... there is a lot of great stuff in there that is applicable to any side looking to be better.
For all the talk about him being blind and one-sided, he compliments Kroos and Modric! He doesn't shit on Simeone and Mourinho's methods as much as he contrasts their styles versus what he's familiar with.
Isn't technical ability what seperates the good players from the great playersInsightful it is. He is very tactical and has a deep understanding of the game, but massively biased towards possession, technique and short passing.
Agreed, especially on the bolded. So what if he doesn't appreciate route 1 football? I'd love a player who played for Pulis to write something this detailed, I would read the shit out of it. Imagine Rory Delap speaking about the art of the perfect throw-in that frightened many a defense across Europe...It's true that there is more than one way to play football.
However, given that the style he's describing produced the best side I've ever seen (with Xavi himself central as possibly the best midfielder I've ever seen), I'm quite willing to listen to him argue that his vision of football is superior to others. Even if he's wrong, he's still more right than anyone else trying to make that argument.
Though he wasn't actually making that argument, nor was he solely looking at things with a Barca bias given he praised opposition players like Kroos too.
Tika Taka doesn't apply to BarcelonaI'm more enjoying coaching clinic from Cruyff himself (based on his videos interview),he's far more deserved to talked like that than Xavi. Xavi comes across such an arrogant prick for me when he's giving that interview. As a player, i rated him above Scholes, but now he's just as much as Scholes not so likeable when giving an interview.
Football is far more bigger than just a tiki-taka wankfest thats Xavi imagine. Gosh, i cant imagine if Xavi had physique that he hoped for to play football. Maybe he refer himself as God now
It was successfull too way before Guardiola took over. A variation of it dominates the Premier League currentlyyou can't slate the guy for believing in a philosophy
a philosophy that dominated football for 10 years give or take
interesting read
Of course, but it comes across as players without elite technical ability being useless e.g. CasemiroIsn't technical ability what seperates the good players from the great players
It's the most important thing a player can develop in my opinion so why shouldn't it be seen as the best way to play football?
Right or wrong it's literally all he's known. He joined La Masia at 11 and the rest was history.I like Xavi as a player, but he's so full of himself in this interview(and probably is in general).
Thinks there's only 1 way to play football.
Oh, it was stoppable.He's 100% right though, Tiki Taka was unstoppable at it's peak.
Yes they also had Messi to break the deadlock in many games, but City are showing it's the right way to win matches more often than not.
I also agree that pressing them is the best way to beat them. Sitting back and letting them do what they want is just waiting to be slaughtered. They are training for that exact situation.
I think Mourinho will soon realise that parking the bus won't work with this team and we will start pushing up higher and taking more risks.
He didn't say he was useless, he said he does a job Busquettes wouldn't be able to do so it's not like he was saying Casemiro was badIt was successfull too way before Guardiola took over. A variation of it dominates the Premier League currently
Of course, but it comes across as players without elite technical ability being useless e.g. Casemiro
It is true to a certain extent, How many posters do you see here complaining about the football on display?It's certainly an interesting and insightful piece but it's full of pompous BS.
I'm not a fan of Simeone but to say he and Mourinho weren't interested in playing football is BS.
Isnt this tiki taka terms become media mainstream when Pep's Barca rise? If that doesnt apply to them, what does?Tika Taka doesn't apply to Barcelona
Tika Taka is dominating possession for the sake of having it
At Barcelona thay passed the ball to find space and move forward not just for the sake of having it so the opponent doesn't have it
I didn't get that impression from reading it. But assuming you're right, so what? He has a deep conviction that his style of football is the best. With his career I see why he'd think that way. I'm sure Simeone thinks his style of football is the best too, and if he was interviewed he would come across in the same way.He does talk Simeone's and Mourinho's football down. The whole interview is a fluff piece.
The team he's spent his entire relevant playing career with. Shocker his interview is heavily weighted towards Barcelona and related personnel.Every point he makes is turned back around to Barca. If you want insight into how much Xavi enjoys one kind of football then this was certainly an insightful article. Take out comments about Pep, Messi, Iniesta and Busquets and what are you left with?
You're grasping at straws now. He's praised Kroos and Modric and De Bruyne in the article. He was just referring to Cazorla's response to the question.When specifically asked about taking his personal feelings out he responds by saying there is no other way despite clamoring on about how special these players in these tactics are. He was even surprised that Cazorla was a good footballer because he wasn't trained at Barca.
Mainstream use here in Spain started with Spain in 2006, coined by Andres Montes, then everytime a team would play short passes and control football he would say tiki-taka because the guy talked a lot.Isnt this tiki taka terms become media mainstream when Pep's Barca rise? If that doesnt apply to them, what does?
Anyway, doesnt matter what it call for me, he can boasting it all to his liking, but despises other's way to play football seems wrong to me. You can be arrogant without do it.
Ready to sleep after that. Reading that was as boring as watching tika-taka.
This is something that really hit home for me. Too many time we see kids that dominate lower levels because of the physicality and they can never make the next step as players, because they never learn to use more than just their physical tools.Xavi was interviewed by Diego Torres for El País; translated by @DianaKristinne
Q: Does Mbappe has more potential than any player since Messi?
But because of the fact that since he was in the U16s o U17s he could go and do his play based on pure ability he hasn't had to think a lot about the rest of the game. I want to see what he does against an organized defense like Atletico. Based on the way I understand football, right now, Neymar is better.
On Mbappe. Reading this as a nod to how superb Atletico's defense is.I want to see what he does against an organized defense like Atletico. Based on the way I understand football, right now, Neymar is better.
Ah i see, thanks for the explanation. Always thought it refer to Barca mostly.Mainstream use here in Spain started with Spain in 2006, coined by Andres Montes, then everytime a team would play short passes and control football he would say tiki-taka because the guy talked a lot.
Then it came the 2008 Euro, that's when the term became famous, and by extension applied to Barcelona games in 2008/2009, but in essence, tiki-taka was always more akin to Spain than Barcelona, then Montes and everyone started using it from Spain games to Rayo Vallecano with Jemez
If you ask a player from a team who were literally better than everyone else to describe what made them better than everyone else, he's probably going to sound like he thinks they were better than everyone else.Isnt this tiki taka terms become media mainstream when Pep's Barca rise? If that doesnt apply to them, what does?
Anyway, doesnt matter what it call for me, he can boasting it all to his liking, but despises other's way to play football seems wrong to me. You can be arrogant without do it.
from his perspective, only Busquets would be a good footballer. Because the things Casemiro is good at is not something Xavi values. Just like tiki taka is proper foootball, and direct football is below it.He didn't say he was useless, he said he does a job Busquettes wouldn't be able to do so it's not like he was saying Casemiro was bad
Basically this, refreshing to see a Barcelona fan who isn't caught in the mindset that possession is the only acceptable football tactic. If Madrid weren't 'playing football' they wouldn't have pipped the best ever Barca team to the title, whilst breaking goalscoring records. All tactics of football are viable and can be just as successful with the right coaching/personnel. One might look better and be more interesting to you, but that's where preference comes in.He's a fundamentalist, he believes in what he wants and leaves out parts of it
"Madrid didn't want to play football", well, you can't expect other people aiming to beat you on your terms
"How players like Cazorla, Modric or Silva weren't signed for Barça?", because guys like you have the ego of an emperor and frown about sharing minutes for the benefit of the team, you expected to play 90 minutes 2 times a week even at 34 y/o and getting flayed by any midfield with a little pace.
"Spain won without having any physicality", not only Pique, Ramos and Puyol, he's forgetting about Senna, how Capdevilla ran that left flank for 90 minutes every game, how Villa and Torres chased defenders like dogs and attempted runs just so our midfield could have more space, how strong Xabi Alonso is... physicality is not only about having 11 players built like Vieira, it takes a lot more.
The more he talks, the less I can stand this guy
Nowhere does he say that "understanding space-time" is prerequisite to being a good footballer.from his perspective, only Busquets would be a good footballer. Because the things Casemiro is good at is not something Xavi values. Just like tiki taka is proper foootball, and direct football is below it.