massi83
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I guess there was a way.No way will Italy-Portugal be a potential match up. Uefa will warm up the balls to the max to prevent that.
I guess there was a way.No way will Italy-Portugal be a potential match up. Uefa will warm up the balls to the max to prevent that.
Jorginho missed 2 pens against the Swiss.how the feck did Italy not win that group though.
If you get past Turkey, you are playing to Italy at home. Perhaps the home factor will help you get through. Portugal is a tournament team after all.Even if we beat Turkey (and with Santos is a big if) we're not going to beat Italy. The only good thing of failing Qatar will be sending this reactionary to retirement.
I can’t believe it but… Portugal are not making the World Cup.UEFA will be gutted Portugal & Italy are in the same path for the draw so one of them will be eliminating the other out.
1 game. Portugal would be at home against Italy.I can’t believe it but… Portugal are not making the World Cup.
They have about a 10% chance of beating Italy.
So in this new format is it 2 legs both games or is it 1 KO round each ?
15% then.1 game. Portugal would be at home against Italy.
Portugal has been irrelevant in World Cups their whole History bar 2006 and 1966.I think Portugal will qualify.
We're close to having 4 World Cups with Italy being irrelevant there which would've been unthinkable in 2006.
Exactly.Portugal has been irrelevant in World Cupa their whole History bar 2006 and 1966.
I rather have Italy in WC than Portugal, I'm sure this Italy can do something in WC (unlike 2010 and 2014), Portugal won't do much...struggle to beat smaller sides, and crash to the first team that has 2 or 3 quality players.
Wasn't it irrelevant if they won or drew that game?It's a shame Italy and Portugal are drawn together but they have no one to blame but themselves. They were both cruising in their group and looks set to win the group, but they messed up their last two games. Portugal failure to beat Ireland away, but still have draw at home to Serbia but lost because of Santos's cowardly tactic. Italy's level seems to have gone down after winning the Euros, not sure if it's complacency or fatigue but should have beaten Northern Ireland away and failed to beat the Swiss at home. Italy missing out on the World Cup again will be such an anti-climax after winning the Euros but it will be hilarious. Really not sure who will win between them, I can't imagine Ronaldo not being in the World Cup but Italy will not want to miss out on the World Cup again. Depends on who turns up on that day.
I don't think we could have asked for a better draw than that. The first game, the second, home... compare to alternatives and it's excellent.Scotland v Ukraine
Wales v Austria
Decent chance of Scotland v Wales
Tournament team... mainly at Euros and on a downward spiral with a clueless coach who makes 3 Guardiola and 1 Klopp managed players look completely lost in the pitch. My fear is not Tukey by itself, it's really Santos who should have been fired in 2018.If you get past Turkey, you are playing to Italy at home. Perhaps the home factor will help you get through. Portugal is a tournament team after all.
All they had to do is be better than Serbie or Switzerland in a course of 8 games. And they are getting a 2nd chance still. What do you want, automatic qualification for them because they are good?Ridiculous really. Italy and Portugal, 2 of the best teams in the world and one of them won't make it. I wonder what pile of shit from central America will make it. Panama maybe. The greatest football tournament in the world where at least a third of the teams are shit and where top football nations such as Portugal or Italy miss out. 13 qualifiers from Europe is ridiculous.
There's a small big difference here. Mancini is doing a good job, and the biggest critic to be made is the team cannot convert the chances created. Under Santos we are on a death spiral and he even doesn't know what's the best tatical lineup or what players suit more the system. I won't be surprised at all if Kuntz already eliminates him with Turkey.Of course, both us and Portugal have only ourselves to blame for being in this situation, but end of March is so far away it is impossible to judge of they will turn up for the games.
Drawed too games against Switzerland, dominated the swiss but couldn't score, Sommer having a great a game, and Jorginho missing 2 penalties in both games (home and away).how the feck did Italy not win that group though.
Nah, mate… as usual, circumstances and fine margins play a huge role in football: you had a legit goal disallowed away + conceded one very late goal at home, both vs group winners Serbia… we failed one penalty away + one penalty at home, both vs group wnners Switzerland, and courtesy of the same man winning all in 2021 and touted for Ballon d’Or. Let’s take all this for what it is, a circus, and good luck with your SF.There's a small big difference here. Mancini is doing a good job, and the biggest critic to make is the team cannot convert the chances created. Under Santos we are on a death spiral and he even doesn't know what's the best tatical lineup or what players suit more the system. I won't be surprides at all if Kuntz already eliminates him with Turkey.
Against Serbia and Ireland in 4 matches we only were the better team for 45 minutes in Belgrade. And with all the respect I have for Ireland, it's not as if the current generation is made of Mcgraths, Irwins, Roy Keanes, Robbie Keanes or Damien Duffs. Even if they are renewing the current team. It was a complete failure to be dominated 90 minutes by Serbia at home. Playing like this it's better to not qualify for Qatar and bring someone with fresh ideas.Nah, mate… as usual, circumstances and fine margins play a huge role in football: you had a legit goal disallowed away + conceded one very late goal at home, both vs group winners Serbia… we failed one penalty away + one penalty at home, both vs group wnners Switzerland, and courtesy of the same man winning all in 2021 and touted for Ballon d’Or. Let’s take all this for what it is, a circus, and good luck with your SF.
ok, we are the Stan & Ollie of Euro football right now… you with the GOAT and us with the fresh silver scudetto on the shirt. If you ask me, I can see fear as the deciding factor between your higher individual quality and our better team organisation. See you in late March, then, who knows howthe world will be?Against Serbia and Ireland in 4 matches we only were the better team for 45 minutes in Belgrade. And with all the respect I have for Ireland, it's not as if the current generation is made of Mcgraths, Irwins, Roy Keanes, Robbie Keanes or Damien Duffs. Even if they are renewing the current team. It was a complete failure to be dominated 90 minutes by Serbia at home. Playing like this it's better to not qualify for Qatar and bring someone with fresh ideas.
Portugal haven't done much at World Cups considering the talent they had... I'm talking about World Cups ,not Euro.Exactly.
When was the last time Portugal did anything in a tournament eh?
The problem sometimes is really this. At the stage of his carrer his role on the team should be the same one as Klose had in 2014. Starting 1 game and playing 90 minutes, the other game he could be used as someone coming from the bench, not to mention all the tatical imbalances he creates on the team because he is one less player to defend.you with the GOAT
Depends if the ref allows handballs.Italy going from winning the Euro's to failing to qualify for the World Cup would be hilarious.
Who wins if it's Scotland vs Wales?
For some reason I thought they wouldn't draw until after SFs but of course it's needed with just 4-5 days between two games.UEFA will be gutted Portugal & Italy are in the same path for the draw so one of them will be eliminating the other out.
1-1 at home to Bulgaria was a terrible result aswell.Jorginho missed 2 pens against the Swiss.
Yup. First game after Euros and shots were 27-4, so basicly just bad luck.1-1 at home to Bulgaria was a terrible result aswell.
If you're a top football nation, you'll be in the world cup. Whoever doesn't make it between Portugal and Italy, is not a top football nation as far as this WC goes.Ridiculous really. Italy and Portugal, 2 of the best teams in the world and one of them won't make it. I wonder what pile of shit from central America will make it. Panama maybe. The greatest football tournament in the world where at least a third of the teams are shit and where top football nations such as Portugal or Italy miss out. 13 qualifiers from Europe is ridiculous.
AmenIf you're a top football nation, you'll be in the world cup. Whoever doesn't make it between Portugal and Italy, is not a top football nation as far as this WC goes.
I for one will be enjoying the "piles of shit" from Central America (and Asia, and Africa, I'm sure your definition includes those continents) at the WC.
Don’t worry, cometh the hour, come the man….(& I’m talking about Ronaldo just in case )15% then.
Fernando Santos will be completely out of his depth here.
If you're a top football nation, you'll be in the world cup. Whoever doesn't make it between Portugal and Italy, is not a top football nation as far as this WC goes.
I for one will be enjoying the "piles of shit" from Central America (and Asia, and Africa, I'm sure your definition includes those continents) at the WC.
You're telling me Portugal and Italy are not top footballing nations? I still say with the strength of Football in Europe there should be more than 13 places. Still if your happy watching Panama or some equivalent instead of seeing some of the best players in the World from Portugal or Italy then that's fine. Always increases England's chances I suppose if either Italy or Portugal are missing.If you're a top football nation, you'll be in the world cup. Whoever doesn't make it between Portugal and Italy, is not a top football nation as far as this WC goes.
I for one will be enjoying the "piles of shit" from Central America (and Asia, and Africa, I'm sure your definition includes those continents) at the WC.
Yeah, why not just make it all European teams and call it the ‘World Euros’?!?! That sounds like funYou're telling me Portugal and Italy are not top footballing nations? I still say with the strength of Football in Europe there should be more than 13 places. Still if your happy watching Panama or some equivalent instead of seeing some of the best players in the World from Portugal or Italy then that's fine. Always increases England's chances I suppose if either Italy or Portugal are missing.