what the hell happened to Russian football.They’ll lose their automatic place soon.
Is Eredivisie the real European Super League?
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Basically a more robust version of the point system in league football. And instead of comparing clubs, it’s comparing leagues.
People say it didn't do anything but FFP outright destroyed Russian football and its economic model. Of course poor management on top of that didn't help.
Since their rating points started to collapse right after their 2018 home world cup it might also have something to do with their state doping operation.
It's got very little do with the olympic doping scandals. Football is a different world than the olympic oriented sports, one the government give much less of a shit about outside of the superficial vanity project that was hosting the WC. Any doping going on will be a lot more similar to how it's done in any other league; fragmented by team and player individual initiatives. Teams were tested extensively since the scandals.
Main reason is Russian grassroots/youth systems are largely a mess outside of a few of the big cities. Not remotely enough was modernised after the '90s collapse of ussr setup and participatory football culture never really recovered in much of the country. When more money in the sport and rich owners became a significant thing by the mid-00s, and creating a robust new system was somewhat possible, it was mainly used for short-term benefits like strengthening squads with foreign players (which with the last decent generation of players was able to gain a couple of UEFA cups).
The 2010s decade is the first one that had to stand on its own without being dominated by players that were entirely/partially ussr football products, and reaped the benefits of all of this; plus other new factors like FFP and sanctions/economical decline caused by the government general ineptitude, and aggression in Ukraine. The signs of the current situation were apparent much earlier than 2018.
In the words of the mighty @KirkDuyt:
Also:
Tsk tsk tsk - only Arnheim in German-speaking countries, Arnhem for the rest of the world.
Also, the clubs are called Vitesse and AZ. Those city names are just a result of clubs needing municipal funding and returning the favour with a little advertisement this way... (It's weird looking at league tables will all those appendices now.)
Happy to help out here: I think @do.ob called @Champ an idiot.Who called who an idiot
It shows that you lot should start taking it seriously and not have Spurs lose to 6 Slovenian farmers who found a football kit.We're not even half way through the season.
I do wonder how Netherlands can be ahead of England when Ajax is the only Dutch team in the Champions League, whereas England has 3 group winners and Chelsea in second place. If anything it shows Europa and Conference Leagues need their weightings reduced.
PSV cocking it up against Sociedad at the moment. It's such an inevitability that Southern European clubs shithouse a Dutch team in to a red card though.
Sorry, sometimes I forget that the Dutch are on a mission to make everything sound German, but just not quite.Tsk tsk tsk - only Arnheim in German-speaking countries, Arnhem for the rest of the world.
Also, the clubs are called Vitesse and AZ. Those city names are just a result of clubs needing municipal funding and returning the favour with a little advertisement this way... (It's weird looking at league tables will all those appendices now.)
You better remember, or I'll continue to increase my post count!
Feyenoord winning with a B squad. Take notes Roma and Spuds.
I think I probably deserved it.In the words of the mighty @KirkDuyt:
Also:
Tsk tsk tsk - only Arnheim in German-speaking countries, Arnhem for the rest of the world.
Also, the clubs are called Vitesse and AZ. Those city names are just a result of clubs needing municipal funding and returning the favour with a little advertisement this way... (It's weird looking at league tables will all those appendices now.)
Happy to help out here: I think @do.ob called @Champ an idiot.
To be honest, I can't believe you (and a few others) took a thread with this specific title seriously.I think I probably deserved it.
To be honest, I can't believe you (and a few others) took a thread with this specific title seriously.
Hell yeah
Kinda love this system though. The eredivisie will could now get 2 CL spots and more EL. Which in turn wil lead to the eredivisie getting less points and let other leagues catch up until it's back to "normal" again. This will lead to more clubs taking the European cups more serious, which has been a problem for many clubs(like Spurs this year). But hopefully the Dutch clubs will keep getting points and keep hunting France for that nr 5 spot(it is doable even this year with some bad results from French teams and a miracle for the Dutch teams)
Kinda love this system though. The eredivisie will could now get 2 CL spots and more EL. Which in turn wil lead to the eredivisie getting less points and let other leagues catch up until it's back to "normal" again. This will lead to more clubs taking the European cups more serious, which has been a problem for many clubs(like Spurs this year). But hopefully the Dutch clubs will keep getting points and keep hunting France for that nr 5 spot(it is doable even this year with some bad results from French teams and a miracle for the Dutch teams)
Hoping it does this yes. Teams like Spurs and Roma should realize they're not like Feyenoord who can just put out their kids and still win in Europe.Hell yeah
Kinda love this system though. The eredivisie will could now get 2 CL spots and more EL. Which in turn wil lead to the eredivisie getting less points and let other leagues catch up until it's back to "normal" again. This will lead to more clubs taking the European cups more serious, which has been a problem for many clubs(like Spurs this year). But hopefully the Dutch clubs will keep getting points and keep hunting France for that nr 5 spot(it is doable even this year with some bad results from French teams and a miracle for the Dutch teams)
3 goalless games tonight.
Ruud and RvP wouldn't score more than 10 goals a season if they were playing today.
Ruud and RvP wouldn't score more than 10 goals a season if they were playing today.