Why do you keep leaving Fabinho out? He's their #6, Wijnaldum played as the AM like Bruno, and the first thing Klopp did when he got the chance was bring Thiago in to add quality in midfield. Henderson isn’t a great player but he's much better than either of McFred who aren't even that solid defensively, they run around a lot but lose opposition runners frequently. As far as Pogba goes, I take it you want to sell him?
As I said in the edit, Pogba can work in a midfield three if you pair him with two work horses/defensive players. What's the difference in playing Pogba - Fred - Rice to Pogba - Herrera - Matic that worked well in Ole's interim days.
Where does Bruno play in that midfield? We play 4-3-2-1, it's the only way to get Pogba and Bruno into the side and that is surely paramount.
Bruno does not play. Maybe he's injured or resting. But if he's unavailable that midfield is still functional
Of course Silva is better than VdB. I'm not comparing their quality but what they would offer. VdB - Bruno - Rice all have the skillet to be used in the same way Silva - De Bruyne - Fernandinho were used. And yes there are weak teams in the Pl.
Bruno hardly ever misses a game, the team needs to include a double pivot with Bruno and Pogba at AM/LW respectively to make sense for us.
Because we play with a front 4 with Bruno, not a front 3 like Liverpool.
Wijnaldum is the most advanced of the 3, so whether it's 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 you have to compare the 2 deeper midfielders, which is Henderson and Fabinho vs McFred.
Yes because we Ole overplays him. I mean we've won tons of games with Bruno at AM and without Pogba at LW.
Yes he's not exactly like Silva but I think VdB has the skill that made that Guardiola system not get exposed defensively. On the ball he knows how to keep possession and maintain the flow of the game. Off the ball he presses and works hard. David Silva aside we've also seen Bernardo Silva play in that same system and role and City still played well. They don't get exposed defensively like they ought too because they dominated possession and worked hard off the ball. A Bruno - VdB - DM midfield is capable of this.
Bruno is hard to drop, similar to Rooney was for us, the big players don't sit out many games.
I disagree but we'll just go round circles at this point, and more importantly I don't see Ole ever using that set-up either, in fact Van de Beek is probably on borrowed time.
Same way I don't see Ole getting 2 midfielders. Or playing Pogba only on the left. But yeah let's agree to disagree cause we'd go in circles like you said
I agree with you on the first one, and that's why we'll be also rans again next season, as far as Pogba goes, if he doesn't want to use him on the left i hope we sell him or try for swap deal with Real Madrid.
I dunno I really disagree. He's really creative on the right and has played more on the right in general. We'd use him mostly on the right too I'd expect, given Rashford on the left.
That's not a problem. We need more players of their standard
For 100m euros it is.
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That's not the correct argument, the argument is if that 100m isn't better spent elsewhere when we already have Rashford and Pogba in his position. Especially considering how thin our squad is compared to City and Chelsea.
Why? We have only finished a bit behind City.
I don't see that as a problem..
Statistically and age wise he is. And a large amount of those are at RW which is a weakness for us.
I'll agree to disagree but in my opinion he's not. He gets stats in the Bundesliga but watching him play he's not a 100m player. I'd value him more like £60m. Good vision and assists but his dribbling isn't very pacey like Mane or Neymar, which could lead us to a similar Mikhitaryan like situation.
Bigger problem is in classic Utd fashion it will likely drag out all summer, and we will risk losing out if he shines at the Euros.
Take it all back after tonight.
