Is Roy Keane dead to you?

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    Not if it was overseas tournament we wouldn't, he'd have been sent home in disgrace for complaining about the texture of the bed sheets, or pillow cases, a proper mans man :lol:

    I jest, I was 100% in agreement with him with his spat with that other lovable Irishman Mick O'Carthy.
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    I'd imagine most fans would have Keane ahead of Ronaldo, and that neither of them come close to Sir Robert of Charlton.
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    People deal with loss and grief in different ways and to use it as a stick to beat him with is classless and insensitive. Maybe it does make me a prick, but it was a shitty thing to say.
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    No, England would have won a major tournament with Roy Keane in their midfield, even though every English midfielder ever is better than Keane... Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Robson, Dyer...
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    Which was a satirical reply to some joker claiming Keane was decent on his day and limited.
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    simplyared Full Member

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    17 major trophies during his time with us. Which was down to his contribution both on the pitch and in the dressing room. He set the standards for the rest and they followed. Give me a player who had more influence on the club than he had??
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    Sorry, but are you trying to make a point?
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    Did I say limited?
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    Bryan Robson, if he was missing we collapsed, with Roy he was replaceable.
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    I'm not just talking about being missing from the line-up. If you're looking at it from that point of view then there's a list of players you can name. Apart from Robson, peak Rooney comes to mind. I'm talking about the overall influence of a player being at the club. On the training ground and in the dressing room. Ibrahimovic has the same quality wherever he goes however his influence isn't always positive in my view.
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    Yeah agree, Roy was in a League of his own putting the fear of God into everybody at the club, the poor tea lady is still on medication.
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    Yes. England didn't win a major tournament with Robson, but would have if Keane would have been English. I think the only reason you don't rate Keane is because he isn't English.
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    I'm half Irish, so you can knock that nonsense on the head for starters. It's just an opinion. If you don't agree, fine, move on.
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    Sure he gave the tea lady a big hug every morning!:lol:
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    Think you need to move on. Your overly emotional posts are hilarious. I can feel the keyboard smashing rage. You’ve mate a fool of yourself in here.

    I’m embarrassed for myself that you’re “half Irish”.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian Scout

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    I can't believe that some twit in this thread claimed that Roy could beat Mike Tyson up.
    We're approaching Chuck Norris territory here...
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    Catch yourself on, i've been calmness personified.

    I'd have thought you being the Son of a Leprechaun was embarrassing enough for you, so i'm sorry to add to it.
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    I think Robson was the better player and he led by example. Keane was different. You could never see Robbo picking up a fight with Viera in the tunnel because he tried to bully a team mate. But Keane did and they each led in their own styles. I think Keane had a higher standard because he won more and the winning culture was in him from the start or else he would not have been the player he was.
    I think England would have won something if Roy Keane was English and if he was the Captain. He would scare the daylights out of someone like Sven. And Beckham, Gerrard and Lampard and even Scholes are not better players in a team than Roy Keane. They may have been more talented but in picking up a team Roy Keane would the first name on the sheet at his peak.
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    Roy Keane is a sad, petty, malicious little man who used to be a great footballer, and that's about it.
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    :lol::lol::lol:

    Put the bottle down.
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    Eoin McMahon Full Member

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    Just a post I have on another thread which gives my opinion on Keane. Keane will never change and will always speak his mind without hesitation. Like him or otherwise the player he was and what he did for this club should never be forgotten. Keane the pundit is making sure he isn't forgotten
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    This is what I thought and hope. Ferguson and United meant so much to Keane and he never would have imagined in a million years he would have been done with United like that. For a footballer whose life revolves around the game to have it end like that must have been heart breaking. It’s the ultimate knife in the back and it seems that maybe United used the interview as an excuse to finally drop him.
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    I find him boring. He obviously is difficult to work with and holds onto grudges to the point that it's difficult to take what he says seriously because he's so clearly bitter. Because these grudges (i.e. Fergie, Delaney, McCarthy) started over a decade ago and he keeps going on about them it's become boring.
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    Ultimately he only has himself to blame. He should have been more self aware and understood that his career as the main force was over and that his role was to be a mentor. A good mentor doesn't carry on the way Keane did. He's not the manager. Instead he should have pulled those players out individually and discussed issues with them privately on where he felt they could improve.

    He seems to have this chip on his shoulder that the club wanted him out, but I do not think that for a second. I think Fergie wanted him on his staff but if Roy couldn't adapt as a player to a more mentor based role at that point of his career, he was never going to.
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    Steve Bruce Full Member

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    Don't like Roy the person but he's a legend at United and wish we had some one like him now.
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    It's a tough one but the situation which was the breaking point in relations between Keane and the club which was the MUTV interview in which he slated some players and made comments which for a live broadcast interview were out of place.

    Keane strove for perfection and he set the standard at the club that took the team to a new level and imbued a never say die attitude with a winning mentality that would never let up. What followed was an unprecedented era of success for the club. However it eventually led to the fall out ended in a way that remains a shame and regretful. Keane was the greatest captain in our history, greatest captain in Premier league history and without his influence the club wouldn't have had anywhere near as much success as they did. However his demanding behavior had reached a point where is was impossible for some players especially the young players coming through, to sustain. No player is bigger than the club even Roy Keane.
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    Six months after leaving United for Celtic he retired on medical advice, yet the way some are defending him in here against SAF you'd have thought SAF forced him out in his pomp.
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    Keane is an absolute legend. Found it hilarious that he doesn't know what emojis are.
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    Eoin McMahon Full Member

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    I think its more reminding people of how much Keane did for the club. For his time at the club to end the way it did was unfortunate and is punctuated by the continued back and forth between two people who shared that same indomitable will to win and absolute love of the game with a stubbornness, never give up attitude.
    Neither Keane or Ferguson were going to back down and Keane had to go. Both of them did everything they did in the best interests of the club but there could only be one manager and Keane overstepped his mark in that regard and Ferguson had to intervene.
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    Judge Red Don't Call Me Douglas

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    He gave his all for the club as player and captain and was told to feck off like he was nothing. You can argue about who was right and wrong but of course anyone is going to be bitter about being dumped like that.
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    Both Ferguson and Keane at the time handled certain situations poorly and Keane made sure Ferguson knew he was wrong with the the public row over ownership of a horse and Ferguson didn't like that one bit.

    Keane was right to say it but at the same time the manager is the manager and Keane was starting to overstep his role at the club. Its similar situations that followed that culminated in the MUTV interview that Ferguson decided it had to stop. Keane was wrong to publicly slate a number of his teammates issues like that should be handles privately. Keane always demanded your best and nothing less and sure its good to et players know a few home truths but that interview was unnecessary and if he had stayed things would have escalated.

    Ferguson and Keane both made mistakes but at the end of the day Keane pretty much made it impossible for him to stay on. Keane is a player i will always admire and respect but what made him such a great leader and captain pushing everyone to be better and demanding perfection it also led to his eventual fall out with the club.
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    Jimmy_Bond Full Member

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    Pretty good summery I'd say.
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    Just heard the Matty Taylor story, hilarious :lol:
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    Pretty much this. Possibly the best midfielder of his type I’ve ever seen, his will to win set him apart. We could do with his captaincy now. But as a person he’s a prick
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    Agree on how good of a player and captain Keane was but as a person he wasn't always as bad as he is now. I remember meeting him back in 2004 after a champions league group game against Lyon.
    As a young lad seeing his heroes up close was incredible. As the players went around signing autographs before departing my dad had somehow ended up chatting away with Roy Keane I think Cork were playing us in hurling that weekend. Roy turns around to me pulls me over the security gate. I got to meet a few more of the players. After all that I turned back to Keane but I noticed something was off about him as he glared at me with utter hatred and said 'I'd waited long enough. I f------ hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you c---," as he tackled my right knee studs first. As I lay on the ground shouting in pain Keane stood over me and shouted
    "And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries. Even in the dressing room afterwards, I had no remorse. My attitude was, f--- him.
    "What goes around, comes around. You got your just rewards. You f----- me over and my attitude is an eye for an eye."

    Oh wait sorry I'm after mixing up my story with the Alf Inge Haaland incident. Ah well can happen.
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    :lol:
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    Pretty much this. Love Keano.
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    This is a massive point.

    He played a tiny handful of games post United, and then that was it.

    I didn't quite get Keane saying Robson and Bruce were treated badly near the end. He of all people should know there's no sentiment at a top achieving team - you don't just play someone in a cup final because they've been a top player.

    Robson as Fergie has explained was unlucky to miss out on being one of the two outfield subs, as someone was nursing an injury, so McClair got the nod if I remember correctly?
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    In fairness to Taylor, could you imagine telling Roy Keane no in the flesh!

    The better story not in the interview was when he was maybe going to sign Robbie Savage.
    But was apparently put off by him leaving a wassssuppp voicemail on his phone!
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    People are saying that he was limited player? He would walk in any top team of today or yesterday.
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