He'd be such a slow moving disaster. The worst kind. Lasting damage as Ineos refuse to lose face.
Is Southgate underrated by the CAF?
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The same Italy side literally limped to a second place finish behind Switzerland in the WC qualifiers within four months of that final, and then went on to lose a play-off, at home, to North Macedonia to fail to qualify for the World Cup.
"Clearly superior" my arse.
He is so timid and negative. Like the cowardly lion.
Do you want just British managers or foreign too?
British include Potter, Howe, Cooper, Mckenna. Europen managers there's at least 20 more.
Only Potter is currently out of work and reportedly isn't looking at taking over a national team atm? You think Howe would leave Newcastle? Cooper and Mckenna I'll give you, they might actually take the job if offered
Foreign managers....ugh. Even harder to hire - having zero emotional connection - and harder to screen
No doubt - they won the thing.
But they weren't so good that Southgate's revolutionary 9 defensive players, a winger and Harry Kane formation was some sort of stroke of genius to counter their brilliance.
Southgate is overrated
Jose is your answer.
I dont think it's harder to screen if the barometer is beating a manager who's only pedigree as a coach is relegating Middlesborough. He's had cake walks to finals with the national side, a job which he was only considered for because Big Sam had a glass of wine at the wrong place in the wrong time.
I was ignoring the Southgate bullshit thinking it was made up tosh but just heard Andy Mitten saying it will have been well sourced by the journos and it is INEOS testing the waters - he seemed genuinely pissed off by it. If they’re stupid enough to hire Southgate then I’ve lost all fecking hope.
Great logic. And one week ago we was linked with him. Getting relegated with the team he managed was expected, same with Burnley this year. Doesn't mean the managers are "shit"
Middlesbrough were a decent mid-table side when he took over. They'd won the League Cup and reached the UEFA Cup final in the few seasons prior to his appointment. Within three seasons they were relegated.
He is clearly bang average as a coach and fairly decent as a man manager. He is a pretty significantly worse version of Ole. I don't care about losing a friendly to Brazil it is just pretty obvious what he is professionally.
I mean it was. It caught Italy with their pants down, played a clear part in England's goal and had them in complete control of the game. It's the lack of adjustments in the second half that were the issue in that game
That would be interesting admittedly
If this muppet was ever hired as our manager there would be some serious discontent amongst the fans. It would not be pretty and I can’t see a scenario where Southgate would be given support. Would be one of the biggest, most rediculous elite appointments In football.
There are multiple better managers in the championship and whilst I don't watch it I imagine league 1
Where did he say it? If it's the latest podcast an you give a heads up on roughly how far in? Will give it a listen!
Catching a grand but not special Italy side with their pants down is not the flex you think it is. A really good team finds a way to beat that shite well before penalties.
Neil Warnock or Steve Bruce could’ve done the same with such a cowardly tactic and the same squad of players.
He'll cost them the Euros.
You‘d be better off with Scotland‘s manager.
I suspect this is reverse psychology but I can't appoint him.
Seriously I can imagine him doing alright with a young team but international level isn't anywhere as good as club level especially judging by the managers. The best international managers would struggle to get any top job at club level.
Thats what I'd say but whenever I see Southgate's critics get told that he has gotten England further than any of its managers have in decades, they normally try and argue the squad is as good as its been since the 60's.
We can not appoint him now even if he is sir alex 2.0.
The level of rejection amongst the fans is gigantic he will face pressure and it will be toxic from the first second at old Trafford that he will never make it.
Inoes better play their first card right.
The level of rejection amongst the fans is gigantic he will face pressure and it will be toxic from the first second at old Trafford that he will never make it.
Inoes better play their first card right.
It’s a false flag operation organized by Jimmy Rat to create a groundswell of support for Ten Hag, and it’s working like voodoo.
Bang on. Love this.
More like Sir Alex 0.0.2-alpha(untested).
Southgate is ok with great squads, but what is his team building like? Would you trust him with 300 million?
100%. I've said this a couple of times on the caf - Mourinho would be my number 1 choice as the next England manager. He would be perfect for international football as his 'us vs them' mentality would suit a 1 month tournament.
Unfortunately, I don't think the FA would have him. He's too combative - the antithesis of Southgate.
I thought the poster you quoted was suggesting Jose for Manchester United?
I assumed they were referring to the England job, as he was replying to someone who said foreign managers are harder to hire as they have zero emotional connection.
Southgate Gate: It even lends itself easily to scandal naming conventions.
He's a coward. And a shite manager to boot.
Always maintain he was very fortunate with the luck of draws. People rave about 2018 sf but then their side of the draw was so kind. One can argue a loss to Croatia should not be happening and maybe a better coach goes past them.
Same in euro 2020(or2021), the draw mighty helped him. The fact that england has such a wealth of talent, probably top 5 in the international football, one should expect better.
Same in euro 2020(or2021), the draw mighty helped him. The fact that england has such a wealth of talent, probably top 5 in the international football, one should expect better.
He’d be a puppet with no say
It's hard to make an argument for another national team clearly having more talent. I think England are minimum top 3.
England are loaded with talent, but Southgate will let them down again.
FA's behavior is criminal. Wasting one of the most talented generation with a nice-guy horrible coach who nobody in their sane mind would trust to manage any EPL team and I wouldn't want him to even manage a championship team I cared about
How can a team filled with exciting attacking talents like Saka, Foden, Bellingham and Kane play such dull and uninspiring football? People really want this guy at our club? Ole 2.0 anyone?
How were Boro expected to be relegated? They were steady under McLaren, a mid table team who punched above their weight in cups, I think they even won the league cup and did ok in Europe mostly with local academy players. Southgate was backed, he was supposed to build on what McLaren had done not destroy it.
I’m not sure if we have any Boro fans on here but they wanted Southgate gone the summer before and their redcaf equivalent is full of people blaming the owner keeping Southgate at the time. Interestingly you can see some discontent on there about Carrick building now although he’s had very little backing and did well last season so there’s a little more patience.
Like I said days ago, the rumors are being fueled by an agent or agents who are looking to boost the profile of a coach that will soon be out of a job and looking for club level opportunities.
The idea that we would employ him is asinine. The man has not coached at club level in 14 fecking years. I can’t believe this rumor has been given so much airtime.
The idea that we would employ him is asinine. The man has not coached at club level in 14 fecking years. I can’t believe this rumor has been given so much airtime.
You can talk about tactics and so on. There were a few issues but if you start Maguire, who is genuinely useless and has way too many huge mistakes in him and Conor Gallagher who is painfully average, the attacking options won't matter. It's slow, ponderous, imaginative. If Tomori and Mainoo played instead, there'd be more pace, can press a little higher, play more intricate football. It's all too slow.
Rumors of Southgate have to be a psyops plan by Sir Jim. No chance they would be that brsindead to actually consider him for the job.