Becks and Hoddle weren't wingers for me and I don't think Keegan counts either.
Beardsley and McManaman are good shouts though.
Is Sterling the best english player at the moment?
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Beardsley and McManaman are good shouts though.
He's probably the best player transferred between Premier league clubs, pool to City, City to Chelsea. I think he's the best player to do that.
Sterling is probably one of those players who benefits as much as a player can do playing under Pep. It will be interesting to see how it transfers playing for Tuchel.
How is Beckham not a winger? If anything, Sterling isn't the winger, he is a wide forward. If Sterling is classed as a winger then so is Keegan.
Sterling is as much a winger as Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Salah, Son, who all occupy or occupied the same territory.
Beckham was more of a side midfielder who got instructed to run/track back on the right side the field
Sancho is the most talented English player of this generation despite the fact that English teams have no idea how to use him.
If Sterling is one of best England wingers of all times then you really had shite wingers. Bar last year or two, I thought he was always shite for England. Rashford and even Welbeck have better numbers than him to start with. And Welbeck was easily better all around player for England.
Hoddle a winger? Huh?
He's in the same generation as Foden, isn't he?
Best England wingers I have seen in my lifetime ( Im discounting the likes of Stanley Matthews etc ) would be Coppell, Barnes, Waddle, Beckham, McManaman. Players who play wide in a 3 arent really wingers, which is where the likes of Sterling, Foden, Grealish, Rashford, etc play.
Beckham went to the bigger club though, it's not the same.
He’s got a funny way of showing it.
So has Raheem.
I guess he has historically, but currently City is.So has Raheem.
David Beckham was world class for a number of years, one of the most effective players of his generation, I rate Sterling higher than most but he’s not as good. Becham was legit a top 5 player in the world in the treble season, Sterling was never on that level, and the pool of talent back then was arguably higher. This was during the Zidane, Batistuta, Figo, Raul, Ronaldo, Rui Costa, Rivaldo, Giggs, Luis Enrique, Bergkamp, Vieira, etc era
Nah, Sterling at no point was as good as peak Beckham.
Before my time but Waddle?
I agree he was never as good as Beckham , I just don't classify Beckham as winger. He was a right sided midfielder for me.
Raheem has literally moved to the bigger, albeit lesser successfully at the moment, club.
Its a myth. People have long forgotten good how rookie years were under Brendan Rodgers. He is not someone who will have issues fitting easily in a different kind of football.
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Technically Stirling isn’t that good he has one asset speed
Totally different player under Rodgers, he became a much better player under Pep no doubt.
Huge fan of his. Can’t wait to see him bag goals and teach Pulisic a thing or two.
being a better player now in the superior system that was Pep's is not really relevant to the point though. He was super effective for Brendan Rodgers' Liverpool system whilst a raw teenager learning his trade. Frankly he can comfortably be effective for any kind of manager.
Another forward ruined by Lord Pep.
That's what I am waiting to see, I wonder if he works in Tuchels system.
Agree, him and Kane are pretty much left to sort it out for themselves with England and he’s produced
This isn’t true. Not even close.
Genuinely interested to see how he does this season.
I think he's one of the most wasteful players in the league (especially the last 2 seasons), who's going from the most creative team in the league to one of the more efficient ones. If he doesn't take his chances at Chelsea, the effects going to much more detrimental compared to city.
I think he's one of the most wasteful players in the league (especially the last 2 seasons), who's going from the most creative team in the league to one of the more efficient ones. If he doesn't take his chances at Chelsea, the effects going to much more detrimental compared to city.
He's so toothless in attack
All of Chelsea's attackers are toothless in attack. For the past 2 years their fullbacks have been their best attackers.
I know some fans like to think the proving of a player is seeing how he does in a dysfunctional system but that's a nonsensical way to look at things.
I know some fans like to think the proving of a player is seeing how he does in a dysfunctional system but that's a nonsensical way to look at things.
He's ordinary at best. Always has been. His technique is horrible.
The 50m Chelsea curse strikes again. Or is it the English player that broke through strongly as a teenager curse?
He made it all work and was a phenomenal player from 2017 to circa christmas 2019. Never regained his form after that and is now a meaningless player
Where is that thread discussing footballers' security measures?
Seems amazing to me that this is so rife that one has to fly home from a World Cup because of it. Didn't we discuss aplenty how much adequate security detail would cost and the conclusion was "not too much". And also whether or not this should be factored into contracts - or clubs having their own security for all players, an insurance of sorts.
Mad.
Seems amazing to me that this is so rife that one has to fly home from a World Cup because of it. Didn't we discuss aplenty how much adequate security detail would cost and the conclusion was "not too much". And also whether or not this should be factored into contracts - or clubs having their own security for all players, an insurance of sorts.
Mad.
The most selfish player in the league? To think Southgate was getting hate for not picking him recently.
Sterling was finished long before he ever left City and a small purple patch here and there won't change that.
Absolutely criminal missing that chance. If you’re gonna be selfish, you have to fecking score that.
Man City were very clever to move him for big money. Their timing was excellent !!
Bordering on unprofessional.