ISIS in Iraq and Syria

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ISIS aren't done yet. Terrible slaughter in Jabal Druze yesterday:

Surprise Isis attacks leave more than 200 dead in south-west Syria
Suicide bombers strike targets in Sweida city and launch simultaneous raids on nearby villages


More than 200 people have been killed in a brutal surprise offensive by Islamic State in Syria that involved multiple suicide bombings and simultaneous raids in which militants stormed villages and slaughtered civilians.

The attacks on Wednesday targeted the city of Sweida and nearby towns and villages in south-western Syria – areas that before the war were populated mostly by members of the Druze minority sect, and that are nominally under government control but have largely stayed out of the fighting that devastated much of the country over the last seven years.

The director of health for the surrounding Sweida province told the pro-government Sham FM that 215 people had been killed in the attack.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/25/dozens-dead-suicide-attack-syria-sweida-isis

 

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[LazyRed-Ninja]

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So how are these extremists claiming to be muslims if they are killing muslims like that?

 

[André Dominguez]

ISIS is a blessing for the war industry. Yes, some guys in a cave managed to made a worldwide plan, get funds to buy billion dollars in guns and hiring military consultants, and manage to finance hubs all over the world.

 

[LazyRed-Ninja]

ISIS is a blessing for the war industry. Yes, some guys in a cave managed to made a worldwide plan, get funds to buy billion dollars in guns and hiring military consultants, and manage to finance hubs all over the world.

Yup, unfortunately this is true. Proxy groups are utitlised whenever 'they' want a certain 'ruler/dictator to be overthrown. Egypt, Lebanon, Libya and Syria all have the same patterns- 'democratic' 'moderate' rebels (who are none other then mercenaries fighter under a certain banner) destabilizing a country and the narrative that is always painted is that the current goverment is killing their own population hence giving the NATO and its allies a reason to military intervene. Same old patterns just a different country and 'extremist' group.

 

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Some gruesome details emerging of what happened in Suweida - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ame-and-slaughtered-families?CMP=share_btn_tw

Very similar to the massacres that used to occur in Algeria in 1997-98, when GIA rebels would enter villages in the darkness of the early morning and slaughter as many inhabitants as they could capture - this often happened, it is said, with the indifference of the Algerian security forces (and some argue their complicity). Seems something like that has happened in Suweida, and the Syrian Army may have decided to leave the city unprotected due to the population's reluctance to throw their lot in with the regime.

 

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[Mrs Smoker]

China joining Russia? Or this might be more from the financial side...

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[syrian_scholes]

ISIS presence in Syria is almost over.

 

[Pexbo]

ISIS presence in Syria is almost over.

How’s things going in your neck of the woods mate?

 

[syrian_scholes]

How’s things going in your neck of the woods mate?

Since the suburbs got cleared of armed groups Damascus has been fairly quiet, no more bombs and no more gun shots sounds so all good right now, looks like the war is coming to an end.

 

[antihenry]

At least they're honest.

https://www.euractiv.com/section/de...-not-going-to-put-this-country-back-together/

Regarding the Russian call for refugees to come back, the US diplomat said there was nothing to prevent refugees from returning, but of the 10 million refugees and internally displaced persons only 55,000 had returned, because in his words nobody wants to be ruled by Bashar al-Assad, whom he labelled a “mass terrorist and mass murderer”.

“The Russians want us to push those people back, same with reconstruction”, he said.

“Who blew this country apart? It was the Assad regime, with the support of the Iranians and the Russian airforce who blew it apart, we are not going to put it back together, and we are going to do everything we can, and that’s a lot, to ensure that nobody else does”, the US envoy to Syria, James Jeffrey said.

 

[TwoSheds]

At least they're honest.

https://www.euractiv.com/section/de...-not-going-to-put-this-country-back-together/

Regarding the Russian call for refugees to come back, the US diplomat said there was nothing to prevent refugees from returning, but of the 10 million refugees and internally displaced persons only 55,000 had returned, because in his words nobody wants to be ruled by Bashar al-Assad, whom he labelled a “mass terrorist and mass murderer”.

“The Russians want us to push those people back, same with reconstruction”, he said.

“Who blew this country apart? It was the Assad regime, with the support of the Iranians and the Russian airforce who blew it apart, we are not going to put it back together, and we are going to do everything we can, and that’s a lot, to ensure that nobody else does”, the US envoy to Syria, James Jeffrey said.

What a wanker. I hope the Russians drone strike Saugus, Massachusetts next.

 

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The True Origins of ISIS
A secret biography suggests that Abu Ali al-Anbari defined the group’s radical approach more than any other person.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/577030/?__twitter_impression=true

 

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The caliphate is down to its last square kilometer or two:

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They’re all getting squeezed out of that last bit of territory now, we can expect a lot more stories like Shamima’s and massive headaches for authorities who’d like them all to disappear:

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More sob stories:

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[Raoul]

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Here’s that Guardian article - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rs-launched-failed-coup-attempt-say-witnesses

 

[VeevaVee]

More sob stories:

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Seems a lot like they went over there to be IS medics. Maybe that's the cynical side of me. They're smart enough to know the right things to say too. Guess they should've thought about documenting it from the start to show they're not IS, if there's any truth to what they say.

Pretty much how I see it. If she'd left, realised quickly she'd made a mistake, & tried to come back, then fair play, live & learn (obviously there would be more to it than that, but yeah). But if you're over there as long as possible, don't regret a thing, & want to come back for the care you'd get in the UK for yourself & your child? Takes the piss.

Yeah, their whole shtick probably looks a lot less appealing these days, what with them being decimated and a lot less powerful.
Quite funny that they're wanting to leave now. The ideal solution would be to leave her and bring the kid back.

 

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Seems a lot like they went over there to be IS medics. Maybe that's the cynical side of me. They're smart enough to know the right things to say too. Guess they should've thought about documenting it from the start to show they're not IS, if there's any truth to what they say.

To listen to all these guys now you’d think ISIS had no fighters, just civil servants. They all have some variation of the same bullshit story.

 

[2mufc0]

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No sympathy for these cnuts, despite all the warnings they were stupid enough to go there, if they do return lengthy prison sentences are in order, otherwise let them face the charges in Syria.

 

[Mrs Smoker]

Bring our boys home.

 

[Buster15]

Slight change of focus but still related to DAESH/IS it is highly significant that the RAF TORNADO GR4 bomber, which has been extremely important in the destruction of IS in both Iraq and Syria is being withdrawn from service.

Not only has it been at the forefront of military air strikes but it has also been a leader in reconnaissance leading to a vast reduction in IED related injuries to our soldiers in Afghanistan.

It has been a fantastically capable and fantastically successful aircraft and is still the biggest and most important European collaboration programme ever.

It is being retired not because it is no longer capable. It is.
It is being retired simply to save money.

To all those brilliant people who worked on this aircraft, you should feel immensely proud of what you have achieved.

 

[africanspur]

Inside the prison holding IS detainees in northeast Syria


Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/or...ish-region-isis-prison-sdf.html#ixzz5iQ9CWQ8B

DERIK, Syria — In a dimly lit room the men sit on rows of bunk beds, their legs crossed or extended. Some smoke or read. Others rock rhythmically to and fro, mumbling prayers under their breath. Bright pink blankets stand in stark contrast with the grim atmosphere. A pale, thin man with wire-rimmed spectacles and a wispy beard stares daggers at a reporter who is allowed to peer briefly through a grilled window built into the cell’s iron door. He’s from Dagestan and, like the rest of his fellow prisoners at the Derik Central Prison for Terrorists in northeastern Syria, he was a fighter for the Islamic State.

Al-Monitor is the first Western media outlet to have been granted access to the maximum security detention center. It is run by the Syrian Kurdish administration, which controls a swath of northeastern Syrian territory the size of England that is protected by the US-led coalition battling IS together with the Kurds.

 

[berbatrick]

Found a video on fb of Yazidi women held by ISIS burning their niqabs after being freed by the PKK. It was by Daily Mail Australia and I couldn't find it elsewhere, so take it with a pinch of salt, but it's terrific if true.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=575579532962727

 

[Sky1981]

Inside the prison holding IS detainees in northeast Syria


Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/or...ish-region-isis-prison-sdf.html#ixzz5iQ9CWQ8B

DERIK, Syria — In a dimly lit room the men sit on rows of bunk beds, their legs crossed or extended. Some smoke or read. Others rock rhythmically to and fro, mumbling prayers under their breath. Bright pink blankets stand in stark contrast with the grim atmosphere. A pale, thin man with wire-rimmed spectacles and a wispy beard stares daggers at a reporter who is allowed to peer briefly through a grilled window built into the cell’s iron door. He’s from Dagestan and, like the rest of his fellow prisoners at the Derik Central Prison for Terrorists in northeastern Syria, he was a fighter for the Islamic State.

Al-Monitor is the first Western media outlet to have been granted access to the maximum security detention center. It is run by the Syrian Kurdish administration, which controls a swath of northeastern Syrian territory the size of England that is protected by the US-led coalition battling IS together with the Kurds.

They can smoke and read?

 

[VeevaVee]

Inside the prison holding IS detainees in northeast Syria


Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/or...ish-region-isis-prison-sdf.html#ixzz5iQ9CWQ8B

DERIK, Syria — In a dimly lit room the men sit on rows of bunk beds, their legs crossed or extended. Some smoke or read. Others rock rhythmically to and fro, mumbling prayers under their breath. Bright pink blankets stand in stark contrast with the grim atmosphere. A pale, thin man with wire-rimmed spectacles and a wispy beard stares daggers at a reporter who is allowed to peer briefly through a grilled window built into the cell’s iron door. He’s from Dagestan and, like the rest of his fellow prisoners at the Derik Central Prison for Terrorists in northeastern Syria, he was a fighter for the Islamic State.

Al-Monitor is the first Western media outlet to have been granted access to the maximum security detention center. It is run by the Syrian Kurdish administration, which controls a swath of northeastern Syrian territory the size of England that is protected by the US-led coalition battling IS together with the Kurds.

It seems odd they're giving every inmate that smokes a pack of cigs every day (must be at least half in a place like that) while also complaining that they can't afford to keep it running. If it costs £20k a month to run that could be a grand or two of it, if not way more. Plus A/C in all the cells?
Others countries, including the UK, should be helping fund the prisons though.

I was torn between thinking it's good that they're treated like humans, but also not caring if they weren't, considering how they've treated other humans.
Thought this was a bit fecking rich:
“What is going to happen to us? They are sending our brothers to Iraq where they will be executed. We saw it on the television news. This is criminal”

 

[utdalltheway]

“What is going to happen to us? They are sending our brothers to Iraq where they will be executed. We saw it on the television news. This is criminal”

I'm sorry but . That they didn't consider this possible outcome when they joined up is not anyone else's fault. Are they looking for the Geneva convention to assist them?

 

[RedTiger]

It seems odd they're giving every inmate that smokes a pack of cigs every day (must be at least half in a place like that) while also complaining that they can't afford to keep it running. If it costs £20k a month to run that could be a grand or two of it, if not way more. Plus A/C in all the cells?
Others countries, including the UK, should be helping fund the prisons though.

I was torn between thinking it's good that they're treated like humans, but also not caring if they weren't, considering how they've treated other humans.
Thought this was a bit fecking rich:
“What is going to happen to us? They are sending our brothers to Iraq where they will be executed. We saw it on the television news. This is criminal”

Smoking was against the law in IS territory, people were executed for not giving up/smuggling cigarettes. I think they give them smokes as a anti extremism ploy.

 

[africanspur]

It seems odd they're giving every inmate that smokes a pack of cigs every day (must be at least half in a place like that) while also complaining that they can't afford to keep it running. If it costs £20k a month to run that could be a grand or two of it, if not way more. Plus A/C in all the cells?
Others countries, including the UK, should be helping fund the prisons though.

I was torn between thinking it's good that they're treated like humans, but also not caring if they weren't, considering how they've treated other humans.
Thought this was a bit fecking rich:
“What is going to happen to us? They are sending our brothers to Iraq where they will be executed. We saw it on the television news. This is criminal”

I can only assume its for two reasons. To stop them getting too agitated (I imagine the overwhelming majority are hardened killers, despite so many now claiming to have just been teachers/butchers/ shopkeepers etc). And perhaps to provide a good image to the West? I can only imagine what would happen to them out of the public eye if they ended up in Egyptian/Syrian/Sudanese etc prisons.

And yeah, I had to genuinely laugh when I read that last comment. What an utter prick.

 

[VeevaVee]

I can only assume its for two reasons. To stop them getting too agitated (I imagine the overwhelming majority are hardened killers, despite so many now claiming to have just been teachers/butchers/ shopkeepers etc). And perhaps to provide a good image to the West? I can only imagine what would happen to them out of the public eye if they ended up in Egyptian/Syrian/Sudanese etc prisons.

And yeah, I had to genuinely laugh when I read that last comment. What an utter prick.

Yeah could be. No issue with these things. Just seemed odd to complain about money but have them. I guess if there's a chance they ever end up back in the regular world it might be best not to make them even more angry at everyone.

 

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ISIS last piece of territory in Syria has been taken. It’s far from the end - there’s many reports indicating a comeback in Iraq, long-formed plans for an insurgency, and their international franchises will go on - but this provides a good moment to step back and assess the last 7/8 years.

Whatever happens with ISIS in the future, and whatever you think of the PKK and Kurdish ambitions in Syria, the world owes a debt of gratitude to the SDF and the Kurdish people. In international law it’s pretty much taken for granted that nations have a right to determine their own political destiny. The Kurds have gone far beyond the point where that right should be recognized, they have gone out and earned it like not many other nations have. We don’t know what the future holds for them in Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran, but with it being Nawruz right now it’s fitting that we should take a moment to recognize their achievements and sacrifices (not that the other non-Kurdish forces involved in this effort don’t also deserve consideration).

 

[VidaRed]

Kurds deserve a country of there own. But that will never happen unless they become lackeys of some other powerful nation/block etc.

 

[Carolina Red]

ISIS last piece of territory in Syria has been taken. It’s far from the end - there’s many reports indicating a comeback in Iraq, long-formed plans for an insurgency, and their international franchises will go on - but this provides a good moment to step back and assess the last 7/8 years.

Whatever happens with ISIS in the future, and whatever you think of the PKK and Kurdish ambitions in Syria, the world owes a debt of gratitude to the SDF and the Kurdish people. In international law it’s pretty much taken for granted that nations have a right to determine their own political destiny. The Kurds have gone far beyond the point where that right should be recognized, they have gone out and earned it like not many other nations have. We don’t know what the future holds for them in Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran, but with it being Nawruz right now it’s fitting that we should take a moment to recognize their achievements and sacrifices (not that the other non-Kurdish forces involved in this effort don’t also deserve consideration).

Well said and 100% agreed.

 

[Kaos]

ISIS last piece of territory in Syria has been taken. It’s far from the end - there’s many reports indicating a comeback in Iraq, long-formed plans for an insurgency, and their international franchises will go on - but this provides a good moment to step back and assess the last 7/8 years.

Whatever happens with ISIS in the future, and whatever you think of the PKK and Kurdish ambitions in Syria, the world owes a debt of gratitude to the SDF and the Kurdish people. In international law it’s pretty much taken for granted that nations have a right to determine their own political destiny. The Kurds have gone far beyond the point where that right should be recognized, they have gone out and earned it like not many other nations have. We don’t know what the future holds for them in Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran, but with it being Nawruz right now it’s fitting that we should take a moment to recognize their achievements and sacrifices (not that the other non-Kurdish forces involved in this effort don’t also deserve consideration).

Agreed and thank you.

 

[VeevaVee]

ISIS woman being interviewed on the news just then, saying if they'd known they'd be stuck in a shitty camp they would have slaughtered the Americans that found them.
I honestly feel nothing for whatever happens to them. They're as low as it gets.

 

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In English now here:

 

[Moonred]

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Claims the attack in Sri Lanka on Easter as revenge for Baghuz the last isis ruled village which fell. First appearance in 5 years.