This is the problem with this thread and social media in general. Israel is treated to a completely different standard.
- Israeli woman says she has been raped. You're a liar! Prove it!
- IDF finds Hamas tunnels. You're a liar! Prove it!
- "Flour Massacre" caused by stampede. You're a liar! Prove it!
- Hamas rocket hit the Al Ahli hospital. You're a liar! Prove it!
- UN says Israeli woman likely raped on 10/7. Lies! ISRAELI PROPAGANDA!
Hamas Ministry of Health...
- 30,000 dead. No need for verification this is obvious entirely accurate.
- "Pallywood" movie scenes. No need for verification this is obvious entirely accurate.
I am not trying to defend Israel here. I am just saying that there is a blatant double standard where everything from the Palestinian/Hamas side is treated as "the gospel", while anything from Israel is immediately thrown out as lies and Israeli propaganda.
Is there not just the smallest possibility that Hamas would "bake" their numbers to ensure maximum condemnation of Israel and to further their own cause and interests? Is it not a bit curious that they are so sure 30,000 people have been killed, but not so sure about how many Israeli hostages are alive?
There is a lot going on here, but I will give it a go anyway.
1) I literally just wrote that there are bad actors on both sides that are trying to win the war of public opinion. Of course there is also exaggeration and lies on the pro-Palestinia side. But it is notable that you once again decide to compare Israel to Hamas, which you would think wouldn't be flattering for Israel.
2) You won't find a post of mine in this thread that says that I don't think rapes were committed on October 7th. Actually I think it's highly likely. I'm casting doubt on why it is coming up again now - I think it has something to do with Israel being under a bit of international pressure for once.
3) On the 30,000 dead this is
always qualified with the "Hamas led Ministry of Health" in Western media, which is meant to cast some doubt on the numbers. However, given the pictures of destruction we have seen, the number of bombs Israel says they have dropped, the population density, and the ability to treat the wounded, I don't see why it wouldn't be accurate. In fact, the number if probably higher with the number of people trapped under the rubble. And even if it was only half, it would still be absolutely abhorrent behavior from "the most moral army in the world".
4) If Israel was interested in a fair view of this conflict, they would allow neutral journalists into Gaza, and they wouldn't make an extra effort to kill the local journalists reporting on it (around 90 killed so far). But they are not interested in that.
5) Israel has already been caught in so many comically bad lies, that it is only natural to be a bit skeptical about whatever they come out with.
6) On the flour massacre, why should I believe Israel here, when they have chosen to only release redacted satelitte images? What reason would there be for them to not release the full images, if it absolves them of crimes?
7) We have so many video clips of IDF soldiers in Gaza acting completely deranged, as well as statements from their elected officials in the highest offices about "human animals" etc., that you don't need any imagination at all to come to the conclusion that atrocities are being committed by Israel. They are downright revelling in it.
8) If you honestly think Israel is being held to a different standard, I don't know what to tell you. That only happens online. In the real world, Israel is literally getting away with murder, while the rest of the world wring their hands and offer at most mild pushback.
At this point, I am absolutely baffled about how anyone can look at the Gaza situation and continue to defend Israel. The ones that do, I imagine to be either Israeli themselves or really, really Islamophobic. And frankly, I think your use of the term "Pallywood", when thousands are dying to be quite disgusting.
