Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

Sancho and Grealish would be good business and there really isn't any need to get more signings.

We need a CB but there's no one available at a good price that I'd say is a significant upgrade on Lindelof. Upamecano has been mentioned but he's inconsistent and injury prone, we don't need any more of that. I'd wait for his partner Konate to be available based on the great reviews I've heard.

Also need a Matic successor but maybe we have that already? Fred came on yesterday and carried on Matic's good work with ease. I'd like to see more of our POTS in that role before deciding we should get a DM.

So based on this, I think the only problems that need immediate fixing are RW and AM replacement for Lingard and Pereira. I want Fred to get more game time for us to judge whether we need a DM though. So I'm still a bit undecided between Grealish or a new DM

 

[SmallCaine]

Sancho and Grealish would be good business and there really isn't any need to get more signings.

We need a CB but there's no one available at a good price that I'd say is a significant upgrade on Lindelof. Upamecano has been mentioned but he's inconsistent and injury prone, we don't need any more of that. I'd wait for his partner Konate to be available based on the great reviews I've heard.

Also need a Matic successor but maybe we have that already? Fred came on yesterday and carried on Matic's good work with ease. I'd like to see more of our POTS in that role before deciding we should get a DM.

So based on this, I think the only problems that need immediate fixing are RW and AM replacement for Lingard and Pereira. I want Fred to get more game time for us to judge whether we need a DM though. So I'm still a bit undecided between Grealish or a new DM

Would love for westham to get relegated, rice would be the ideal dm replacement for matic.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

Would love for westham to get relegated, rice would be the ideal dm replacement for matic.

He's already defensively sound at a young age. He can also play CB so maybe we wouldn't be looking for a Maguire partner anymore? At the very least he would provide cover for our injury prone CBs. I don't watch him alot but I think he also needs to have the ability to progress the ball forward and make line breaking passes to be the ideal Matic replacement

 

[SmallCaine]

He's already defensively sound at a young age. He can also play CB so maybe we wouldn't be looking for a Maguire partner anymore? At the very least he would provide cover for our injury prone CBs. I don't watch him alot but I think he also needs to have the ability to progress the ball forward and make line breaking passes to be the ideal Matic replacement

His passing as far as i have seen is no where near matic's but defensively he is much better than mctominay or fred, they are hardworking and quicker but neither actually knows how to play as dm.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

He's already defensively sound at a young age. He can also play CB so maybe we wouldn't be looking for a Maguire partner anymore? At the very least he would provide cover for our injury prone CBs. I don't watch him alot but I think he also needs to have the ability to progress the ball forward and make line breaking passes to be the ideal Matic replacement

He was always terrible when played as CB. Let's not have an idea to think he will be decent option as CB.

 

[Highfather_24]

Last week in FA CUP we rested all our players except 3. We couldnt afford to rest Bruno because the quality drop off is too much between him and the backups(Pereira/Lingard/Mata). Grealish wouldnt come here to be a backup. He offers competition to Pogba, Bruno and Rashford. When we are playing 3 games in a week, he can easily slot in for any one of them and it will be fine. I can see him getting 40+ apps next season for us even if he is not part of the "best 11".

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

He was always terrible when played as CB. Let's not have an idea to think he will be decent option as CB.

Didn't know that to be honest. I just know he was a CB before

 

[sherrinford]

Best season in the championship. Plenty have shone in the championship in central roles and struggled to replicate it in the PL. Taraabt anyone?

Grealish has excelled at LW with freedom to do what he wants. He won’t get that same freedom at a bigger club equally though he’ll be better supported. It’s absolutely debatable as he’s never consistently shown a level of quality in Silvas position.

Grealish is a far better progressive dribbler than he is passer. Maddison is a better example of a progressive passer. Being more of a dribbler is one of the key reasons he’s been played out wide with a free role because he has the time and space to progress the ball. He’s struggled in the PL in central areas and Smith has admitted he’s best out wide for Villa even if Jack thinks he’s a No10.

I would expect him to do well at City but he is not the perfect David Silva replacement and it’s disrespectful to an outstanding player to suggest a good championship season and good pl season as a winger make him perfect. He would be a significant drop in quality especially from a creative and controlling stand point. Silva is much more than just a passer he can dictate too.

I like Grealish as a player but you’re overrating him if you think he’ll replace Silva perfectly.

Plenty (such as Taraabt) have struggled, naturally, with the level in general - Grealish hasn’t. He is excelling in the Premier League, and his versatility is well established. In the same sense, were Eze at QPR to get a Premier League move and perform playing off the left next season there would be no doubt about his ability to play centrally in the top tier either.

Grealish hasn’t struggled in central areas in this league at all. He spends his time deployed as a wide man largely coming infield, the one time I have seen him set out as a no.10 in a 4-2-3-1 he was the MOTM (Norwich I think) and he was Villa’s best player as usual in the last game he played as a left-sided no.8 in a 4-3-3 (against Newcastle, the game before last).

I can recall Smith talking about left wing being a great position for him and for the balance of the team at the particular time he said it, but certainly no definitive statement about where Grealish is best. He has spoke about the player’s ability to play in a midfield two, as a no.10 and as a no.8 in a three. If he thought Grealish’s best position was left wing he wouldn’t play him elsewhere yet he has - why play him centrally against Norwich or against City in the Cup after he had settled on using Grealish from the left? Villa had both Nakamba and Hourihane available against Newcastle so why would Smith deploy Grealish in the middle? And Grealish considers himself a no.8 not a no.10.

I would imagine the reason for playing him on the left is more to do with the circumstances the team find themselves in. Villa are struggling, are on the backfoot and defending in a deep shape for significant periods of games. Using Grealish at left wing generally keeps him higher up the pitch and in a better position to be utilised on the counter, they get another combative midfielder in the side, or defender in back 3/5, and it means less of Trezeguet who has generally looked quite brutal when I’ve seen them.

I don’t really see Grealish’s passing and dribbling as being exclusive. He retains the ball, stands up defenders and attacks space exceptionally well, but uses these abilities to advance the ball to teammates both in building play from deep and in the final third. He is a progressive player looking to operate in the left half space, the particulars of how exactly he looks to release those around him is not important - there’s no reason why Man City would require ‘more of a passer’ than him.

At no point have I said he would perfectly replace Silva, but he has a similar sense of patience which would nicely compliment De Bruyne’s more forceful and speculative playing style. He is a good fit positionally and stylistically, if Guardiola was looking to retain that particular shape and balance.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Didn't know that to be honest. I just know he was a CB before

He was. Terrible result in being converted as DM and that's where he's good at.

 

[dal]

Out: Perreira, Lingard, Mata James
In: Grealish

I’d be happy with that. I know James has only been here a year however if we can replace him with Grealish I’d do it.

Also getting rid of some more dead wood and bringing in sancho and a CB and we would be well and truly contending.

 

[Mainoldo]

Out: Perreira, Lingard, Mata James
In: Grealish

I’d be happy with that. I know James has only been here a year however if we can replace him with Grealish I’d do it.

Also getting rid of some more dead wood and bringing in sancho and a CB and we would be well and truly contending.

3 out 1 in leaves us very short. We’d need an additional player.. but don’t get rid of them three, there not good enough.

 

[crossy1686]

Out: Perreira, Lingard, Mata James
In: Grealish

I’d be happy with that. I know James has only been here a year however if we can replace him with Grealish I’d do it.

Also getting rid of some more dead wood and bringing in sancho and a CB and we would be well and truly contending.

Selling a player that has had one year in the PL and before that 1 year at Swansea? Unrealistic expectations much?

 

[dal]

3 out 1 in leaves us very short. We’d need an additional player.. but don’t get rid of them three, there not good enough.

Grealish, rashford, Greenwood, Ighalo, Martial, Sancho.

6 players for 3 positions, I don’t see how that leaves us short to be honest. Also grealish gives us an extra option in midfield as well.

Additionally, there’s also room in the squad to blood 1/2 youngsters (garner).

 

[sherrinford]

Sancho and Grealish would be good business and there really isn't any need to get more signings.

We need a CB but there's no one available at a good price that I'd say is a significant upgrade on Lindelof. Upamecano has been mentioned but he's inconsistent and injury prone, we don't need any more of that. I'd wait for his partner Konate to be available based on the great reviews I've heard.

Also need a Matic successor but maybe we have that already? Fred came on yesterday and carried on Matic's good work with ease. I'd like to see more of our POTS in that role before deciding we should get a DM.

So based on this, I think the only problems that need immediate fixing are RW and AM replacement for Lingard and Pereira. I want Fred to get more game time for us to judge whether we need a DM though. So I'm still a bit undecided between Grealish or a new DM

In possession, Fred is at his best as the deepest midfielder for me - he looks most comfortable with everything in front of him and there’s generally more space in front of the back four than when you start to move higher and I think he lacks enough finesse to operate in more congested areas. During the period where he was struggling greatly the PSG performance as a holding player really stood out.

He can be impetuous in looking to recover the ball but his reaction to turnovers and will to harry brings it’s own benefits as well as disadvantages. He’s not perfect by any means, but I think he’s a more viable candidate for that role than many seem to.

Personally I wouldn’t prioritise a backup/ squad/ rotation player though. If, for example, there really is no attainable centre backs that would be an improvement on Lindelof (surely not?) then go for a secure, natural holding player who will go straight into the side. If we really want to improve we need to upgrade on our strongest eleven. If that’s not possible save the funds for when it is.

In Grealish’s case there’s always Pogba’s future to consider as well though. It would seem that there is a few good options potentially on the market for either a role next to a holding player in our currently utilised shape or as one of two no.8’s playing ahead of a holding player with a slight shift to our setup. If Pogba’s not going to be here beyond his current contract he will need replacing.

 

[Mainoldo]

Selling a player that has had one year in the PL and before that 1 year at Swansea? Unrealistic expectations much?

As unrealistic as his 1year at Swansea to United. Send him back to his level.

 

[Mainoldo]

Grealish, rashford, Greenwood, Ighalo, Martial, Sancho.

6 players for 3 positions, I don’t see how that leaves us short to be honest. Also grealish gives us an extra option in midfield as well.

Additionally, there’s also room in the squad to blood 1/2 youngsters (garner).

Forgot about Ighalo to be honest. So I agree there, Grealish would be used as a Midfielder but I think we need a Matic option. Would love for us to get Rice too.

 

[Hide_&_Seek]

i have belief that grealish transfer is depend of pogba depature, with current situation i can see pogba will stay

and if sancho come, he can play RF(mainly), LW and even AM, which was grealish 2 main position, as no 8 we still have fred & McT

so i personally think we should pass on grealish and prioritise Matic cover, even i believe he will be good player or even already be one

 

[carlbcfc]

Grealish should have been at this level 4 years ago including being well into the England fold, but he chose to go on the piss every weekend Instead, culminating in being recorded passed out on the streets of Tenerife. There is also rumours of an alleged drugs ban a few years back when he was out for a period of time. He’s known as an arrogant c*nt locally. He likes people to know ‘who he is’. He refuses to wear proper shin pads, and instead wears kids ones, putting him at risk of injury, and just making him a target for opponents. He also actually requests tighter shorts.

Saying all that, I am a Birmingham fan, so I would be slightly biased, and it’s seems Jack has changed for the better recently with the exception of a recent incident where he only went & posted on social media on the night saying how we need to protect the NHS & stay home, and then himself go out on the piss at a mates house, only to then crash his car at 8am On his way home, and leave the scene, which I think he’s been charged with. Was it drink or drugs the reason why we ran away? We‘all never know!

From the outside, I don’t think he’s good enough to start for United ahead of Pogba & Fernandes, and he won’t take too well to being a bench player, especially with the new distractions & temptations Manchester offers. I spoke to a Spurs scout who was at Vile Park watching him back in Sept. He said he won’t leave to sit on the bench, and at that point was not going to start their team.

Saying all of the above, he is a mercurial kind of player that could thrive with better players, but then you have to deal with the baggage that comes with him. And don’t you think that it’s telling that at 24, he’s been nowhere near the England side yet? I’d expect a switch to Ireland if it don’t come soon for him.

Just my view from the Birmingham.

 

[dal]

Forgot about Ighalo to be honest. So I agree there, Grealish would be used as a Midfielder but I think we need a Matic option. Would love for us to get Rice too.

Yes, Rice could be a good edition.

However seeing Ole work, I think he only buys where it’s obvious it would improve and is critical to our functioning as a team. Also, if we are buying proven players they have to be top, top tier.

I’m not sure we need a holding midfielder yet as we can combine our options very well and we can also beat the top teams playing on the counter attack without a specialist and Fred has been magnificent in these games.

However when matic or pogba leaves and/or it critically impacts on our functioning as a team, at that point, either a world class talent or player will need to be signed.

Ole will let try to let our talent flourish first and the current ecosystem of the squad allows us to do that without hampering us significantly.

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

In possession, Fred is at his best as the deepest midfielder for me - he looks most comfortable with everything in front of him and there’s generally more space in front of the back four than when you start to move higher and I think he lacks enough finesse to operate in more congested areas. During the period where he was struggling greatly the PSG performance as a holding player really stood out.

He can be impetuous in looking to recover the ball but his reaction to turnovers and will to harry brings it’s own benefits as well as disadvantages. He’s not perfect by any means, but I think he’s a more viable candidate for that role than many seem to.

Personally I wouldn’t prioritise a backup/ squad/ rotation player though. If, for example, there really is no attainable centre backs that would be an improvement on Lindelof (surely not?) then go for a secure, natural holding player who will go straight into the side. If we really want to improve we need to upgrade on our strongest eleven. If that’s not possible save the funds for when it is.

In Grealish’s case there’s always Pogba’s future to consider as well though. It would seem that there is a few good options potentially on the market for either a role next to a holding player in our currently utilised shape or as one of two no.8’s playing ahead of a holding player with a slight shift to our setup. If Pogba’s not going to be here beyond his current contract he will need replacing.

Why do we still need a holding midfielder for next season though. Matic has been doing well in that role this season and if you rate Fred as a holding midfielder then he can be cover for Matic. Maybe next season when Matic is leaving but I think as long as Fred performs well there, we are sorted in that position

 

[crossy1686]

As unrealistic as his 1year at Swansea to United. Send him back to his level.

How would that make him a better player? Playing at a higher level with better players and coaching will improve him, not playing at Swansea.

 

[sherrinford]

Why do we still need a holding midfielder for next season though. Matic has been doing well in that role this season and if you rate Fred as a holding midfielder then he can be cover for Matic. Maybe next season when Matic is leaving but I think as long as Fred performs well there, we are sorted in that position

I’m not saying we need to get one for next season. I think we can afford to be picky, particularly after a right winger and less so a centre half.

Even in those cases the situation isn’t as bad as it was after last season, where I was of the opinion that our options for the right wing were so dire and the combination of Young’s plummeting form and Solskjaer’s refusal to play Dalot at right back meant that the need to revamp the right flank was so great that if we could not get players of the quality we wanted we should settle for lesser ones. I don’t think the situation is as desperate now. We should absolutely still look to improve right wing as priority, but James and Greenwood have been an undoubted improvement in that area for me.

Lindelof isn’t a disaster - I would certainly have his position next in priorities but if there’s not a suitable option then make do (mind you, for me making do would preferably be bringing back Smalling).

Matic is nearing the end of his time here and I like Fred but in terms of strength I would place that holding role roughly alongside both full back roles, ahead of right wing and right centre back but weaker than the other half of the outfield positions, so for me it’s an area we could look to improve particularly if the right player were available.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Suspect he’ll end up at Everton

 

[CM]

Suspect he’ll end up at Everton

I think he's capable of better than that, to be fair to him. Even if he doesn't want to be a squad player at one of the top clubs, he's certainly capable of starting at somewhere like Arsenal or Spurs.

 

[MikeUpNorth]

I don't like what I hear about Grealish's personality and attitude and would probably pass on that basis.

 

[Trophy Room]

Never bought into the hype. Not for me but I trust Ole's judgement.

 

[eire-red]

His passing as far as i have seen is no where near matic's but defensively he is much better than mctominay or fred, they are hardworking and quicker but neither actually knows how to play as dm.

I've watched West Ham a couple of times post lockdown, and the improvement in his passing ability was what actually caught my eye. Think it was against Spurs he actually had a really good game, despite them losing 2-0.

I just have my doubts about whether he can take the step to a higher level. Fabinho, Casemiro, Fernandinho, that's where you need to be aiming to be a top DM, and I don't think he has enough ability on the ball to get there. Defensively sound, but at a team like United where you expect to have 60-70% possession in some games, you need more strings to your bow.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Selling a player that has had one year in the PL and before that 1 year at Swansea? Unrealistic expectations much?

He's not our manager at least.

 

[sherrinford]

I don't like what I hear about Grealish's personality and attitude and would probably pass on that basis.

He is a leader. His manager has praised his maturity and made him captain last season.

When Young left in January it highlighted an issue with the team in terms of character. Maguire was made captain six months or so into his time at the club and it was, very sadly, difficult to argue with that decision. Fernandes is a leader and winner and has had a huge impact on the side. We need more players like him, like Grealish. His character, attitude, personality, mentality - whatever you want to call it it’s a reason for signing him, not against.

 

[carlbcfc]

He is a leader. His manager has praised his maturity and made him captain last season.

When Young left in January it highlighted an issue with the team in terms of character. Maguire was made captain six months or so into his time at the club and it was, very sadly, difficult to argue with that decision. Fernandes is a leader and winner and has had a huge impact on the side. We need more players like him, like Grealish. His character, attitude, personality, mentality - whatever you want to call it it’s a reason for signing him, not against.

Since the age of 10, Jack has been the star man. He has never had the fear of rejection. Villa have always put their eggs in one or two baskets when it comes to their academy players, and those players call the shots. Jack has had a life of “Yes Jack!”. He’s always been #1!. He does love his club, and does lead on the pitch, but then off it speaks a good game, but breaches lockdown and then crashes his car in what we can only imagine was not a fit state to drive, hence he ran away the scene. ‘I’m untouchable, I’m the boss’ ‘I’ll wear kids shin pads & risk injury because no one will question me’

He needs to humble himself before he starts swimming with the bigger fish. We should have been having this conversation about Jack 4 years ago! He’s nearly 25 now, and not an established international, In fact he’s never even played at full international level yet. Why not?

 

[sherrinford]

Since the age of 10, Jack has been the star man. He has never had the fear of rejection. Villa have always put their eggs in one or two baskets when it comes to their academy players, and those players call the shots. Jack has had a life of “Yes Jack!”. He’s always been #1!. He does love his club, and does lead on the pitch, but then off it speaks a good game, but breaches lockdown and then crashes his car in what we can only imagine was not a fit state to drive, hence he ran away the scene. ‘I’m untouchable, I’m the boss’ ‘I’ll wear kids shin pads & risk injury because no one will question me’

He needs to humble himself before he starts swimming with the bigger fish. We should have been having this conversation about Jack 4 years ago! He’s nearly 25 now, and not an established international, In fact he’s never even played at full international level yet. Why not?

Removing all the extraneous aspects of your post; he leads his team on the pitch.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Since the age of 10, Jack has been the star man. He has never had the fear of rejection. Villa have always put their eggs in one or two baskets when it comes to their academy players, and those players call the shots. Jack has had a life of “Yes Jack!”. He’s always been #1!. He does love his club, and does lead on the pitch, but then off it speaks a good game, but breaches lockdown and then crashes his car in what we can only imagine was not a fit state to drive, hence he ran away the scene. ‘I’m untouchable, I’m the boss’ ‘I’ll wear kids shin pads & risk injury because no one will question me’

He needs to humble himself before he starts swimming with the bigger fish. We should have been having this conversation about Jack 4 years ago! He’s nearly 25 now, and not an established international, In fact he’s never even played at full international level yet. Why not?

Birmingham city really do be salty. No surprise though, your lot are fecking shite.

 

[Dazzmondo]

Grealish is great but it makes no sense for us to sign him. It would be a huge waste of money and he wouldn't start for us. He will not go to any club where he won't start nor should he. We have other positions in the team that need to be upgraded such as cdm, cb and lb. The only scenario where signing Grealish might make sense is if we couldn't get Sancho but even then I'd just rather play Greenwood and reinvest the money into more impotant positions.

 

[arnie_ni]

Souness isnt a fan

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

Souness isnt a fan

He’s probably only saying that cause he’s been linked with United, bitter cnut.

 

[arnie_ni]

He’s probably only saying that cause he’s been linked with United, bitter cnut.

I dont watch villa that much, he could have said this before now. I dont know, heck he could even be right, but its the same issue i always thought PP had here.

No movement, hold the ball to long.

 

[spiriticon]

I like Grealish but I don't think this one is happening this summer. Unless the price is very cheap.

We'll have a hard enough time generating funds for Sancho.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

I dont watch villa that much, he could have said this before now. I dont know, heck he could even be right, but its the same issue i always thought PP had here.

No movement, hold the ball to long.

He probably is guilty of holding onto the ball for too long at times but you can hardly blame him there’s not exactly a whole lot of options in that Villa side when he lifts his head up.

 

[Kag]

Grealish is great but it makes no sense for us to sign him. It would be a huge waste of money and he wouldn't start for us. He will not go to any club where he won't start nor should he. We have other positions in the team that need to be upgraded such as cdm, cb and lb. The only scenario where signing Grealish might make sense is if we couldn't get Sancho but even then I'd just rather play Greenwood and reinvest the money into more impotant positions.

It makes complete sense. We’re an injury away to Bruno or Pogba or away from fielding Championship players in key creative areas. Grealish provides cover and competition for all three positions behind the striker.

We need a quality squad. If Martial is quiet then we need the option of playing Rashford or Greenwood centrally ahead of him. If Rashford looks bang out of form, we need to be able to field a player like Grealish ahead of him. If Bruno is injured then we need a player like Grealish to come in for him.

The club should be doing everything in its power to rid itself of the likes of Lingard and Pereira and replace them with players like Grealish. Right wing and attacking midfield remains the most important positions in which we need to buy as the alternatives are simply too bad.

 

[TheReligion]

I like Grealish but I don't think this one is happening this summer. Unless the price is very cheap.

We'll have a hard enough time generating funds for Sancho.

How much money do we have?