Yes. Their coach said in the papers this morning that he hopes Smalling will be back with them in a few days. That will be the 20m or so we need to top up the Sancho deal.
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What is the record no of pages here and what player was it for?
Fonseca was quoted saying he talks to Smalling all the time and they're working on it, I think they will edge closer to our price and we'll accept around £15m
They were close to going bust not that long ago, and have learned from it. The know they have a ceiling and aren't going to endanger their future for trophies which they might not win anyway.
They're a brilliantly run club with a team that plays regularly plays lovely football and develops players beatifully despite those limits. They are worthy of respect, not ridicule.
It’s a valid point but the club knew for months Sancho would cost mega bucks. Surely knowing this you target options for RW until such time there is more certainty in the market? We need options at RW above anything. Greenwood and James are not naturally RW for starters.
The thing is that our owners, ED & Judge seem happy if we just make it to the 4th place and that's all.
They have no boiling blood in their veins for our club like we do!
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Stop this sort of fact based rational post.
Dortmund have to sell their players, as it’s part of the attraction for them joining in the first place.
Haaland, Sancho and Bellingham don’t want to stay at the club long term. They want to go there, know they will get games in a less pressurised environment, get guaranteed CL games and then move to a big club.
If they aren’t able to move to a big club, then these young players won’t go there in the first place. There’s nothing special about the club, it’s just a stepping stone. The club knows that. Players they buy know that. Players who want those players know it.
I don't think it would help in our Sancho Pursuit that much , Even if we sell Smalling for 20 m which is highly doubtful we would most probably get 5 m as most deals are done in installments but Dortmund seem to want major money upfront for Sancho.
It’s just Fellaini was 100% on Moyes. We have made lots of other mistakes. I agree that we know Sancho will cost a lot of money. However, the fact we still pursuing him means we still think it can be done - we can’t move onto other option whilst there’s a chance we can get this done.
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I think they share snaps of their breakfast. Fonseca with his pastel de Nata and Smalling with his Cheerios.
Supposedly their first offer was 8million pounds. 8 million pounds for a defender who was one of the best in Seria A last year. Ed was right to send them packing. They’d be lucky to get Phil Jones for that.
Supposedly we want 15, which if we get it I would imagine will go towards the Sancho funds.
I'm not ridiculing them.
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Their first offer was 13 million euros which was crap. Think that works out around £10 million. Liverpool just sold a young prospect with no match time for more.
First time I’m wavering. I think we’ll not sign him.
You ask any Italian team other than Inter to part with actual money for a player and they think it’s too much. They probably wanted us to let him go for free ‘because he likes it there.’
Cheers. I think before Pogba, it was Berbatov or Sneidjer. It's been a while since we are in for one of these big name transfer.
About 160 more posts to break the longest thread record.. THAT is the point where Ed makes the bid. We all know it. Today’s the day. HSD
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I also remember the Thiago and Vidal threads being pretty long.
Yeah next summer or in Jan
We had this question a few pages back now. I am fairly sure this is by far the most.
Do we have to be so arrogant about other teams not named Barcelona, Juventus, Bayern or Real Madrid?
Dortmund are big club who get 70k fans at every single home game, have one of the top supporters in Europe, legendary stadium with great atmosphere, have won CL once and been to the final more recently than us. Obviously they don’t have the same revenue or global recognition but they are not some tiny club who should bow down to the big guys and let their players move at a price that the ‘big clubs’ deem appropriate.
If they feel Sancho is worth €120m and are confident they can get that value elsewhere in the future, and he’s content to stay with them for one or two more reasons, then it’s their right.
I truly hate it how some of our fans seem to think there are literally 4 worthwhile clubs outside of Premier League.
There’s no arrogance.
Their model is to attract players who want to use Dortmund as a stepping stone to a big club. To attract those players, they need to sell them. Haaland, Sancho and Bellingham don’t go there with the intention of staying there.
They have been actively trying to sell him all summer.
If we don't sign him now then other teams will go for him next time.
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Because it’s a huge transfer and when paying that amount of money you have to negotiate or try to negotiate even if it’s to satisfy shareholders.
We’ve brought in AWB, Maguire, Bruno, VDB and when we get Sancho this window we will be very well positioned even if it is after our first game.
Van Persie, Rooney, Berbatov, the best always take longer to sign especially for us.
Indeed and we did those in much more stable times.
Losing out on £5m every home game plus the rest has to be factored
Agreed to a point.
Sancho is their player, they've developed him and have a contract. If Sancho is happy to respect that and not kick up a fuss Dortmund are in a strong position.
Why shouldn't they set their price?
But it's true they know that players they develop will most likely move on. It's a fairly well established model...if they get 3 years or so out of a player and a hefty profit they are operating well tbf.
I like Dortmund, as a club and think their support is quality.
Maybe we never do then
We'll offer the money cos Ed always does. Even for players he knows we can't get. Question is whether Dortmund accept.
Well well well
We waited a year for Maguire and 6 months for Bruno. Im not entirely convinced we pay up this summer
So is that okay for you?
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