Jarrad Branthwaite

NLunited said:
A club’s player valuation means nothing if no clubs are in for that player. Besides us, who is in for Brantwaithe?

As it stands the highest offer for him is what?

A young player valued at 80 million would attract more interest.

I would not be surprised if this move happens, but much closer to United‘s valuation than Everton‘s. They have created a problem for themselves.
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Yeah I agree

The good thing is that the new people are very good at these things. I know this sort of thing is being over-said, but I genuinely think over recent years we'd have probably ended up paying the lot. I don't think that will happen any more.

United's 2 bids so far have been sensible. If it gets to late August, the player won't sign a new deal and it is only United formally at the table then I think they will have to be more realistic with what they're asking for. I don't see any other club going over £50m for him. If United end up getting him, I think it'll be for around that before add ons
 
NLunited said:
A club’s player valuation means nothing if no clubs are in for that player. Besides us, who is in for Brantwaithe?

As it stands the highest offer for him is what?

A young player valued at 80 million would attract more interest.

I would not be surprised if this move happens, but much closer to United‘s valuation than Everton‘s. They have created a problem for themselves.
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It does if they are sufficiently under contract. If I tried to buy your car off you (that you didn't want to sell), offered lower than what you said you'd consider for it and told you were were being unreasonable and over valuing it - you'd think I was a complete bellend and ask why I was wasting your time.
 
NLunited said:
They have created a problem for themselves.
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They really have. They should have just said 'he's not for sale'
Listing Gvardiol and others and saying he's worth 70m means a new contract will be expensive.
 
The benefit of buying Branthwaite is its less pressing for us to then buy a left back, because Martinez is able to play at left back as well when Shaw is not fit. Buying De Ligt doesn't really help us with regard to the right back situation should we sell Maguire/Lindelof/AWB.
 
The people who spent tens of pages ridiculing random Everton fans for their reactions might also get a kick out of the McTominay and Smith Rowe threads right now.
 
NotThatSoph said:
The people who spent tens of pages ridiculing random Everton fans for their reactions might also get a kick out of the McTominay and Smith Rowe threads right now.
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I guess the difference with this is we want to sell the player.
 
NotThatSoph said:
ten Hag reportedly doesn't, while a lot of commenters have the similar stance of sell if offer is bigger than X.
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No way of knowing this for sure though. It's quite common to say you want to keep them so that you don't look like you need to sell and strengthen your negotiating position.
 
Solius said:
No way of knowing this for sure though. It's quite common to say you want to keep them so that you don't look like you need to sell and strengthen your negotiating position.
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Sure, that's true.

Anyway, I'm not trying to make a serious point. A bunch of people are angry that clubs seem to value Emile Smith Rowe more than Scott McTominay, and I found that funny.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
"Generational talent worth 70m" also not worth the same wages as Calvert-Lewin, James Tarkowski or Abdoulaye Doucoure.
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How much are they spending on wages now? Last I see it was around 90% of their income going to wages. Can they afford to be increasing wages?
 
Globule said:
How much are they spending on wages now? Last I see it was around 90% of their income going to wages. Can they afford to be increasing wages?
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We have been cutting the wage bill every season and trying to get beyond the days of signing players on too high. In the past two or three windows we have cut a bunch of players who were on 100k+. It is why if be surprised if a deal was offered to Branthwaite that exceeded 100k. There is a balance that can be met though of course.
 
SilentWitness said:
We have been cutting the wage bill every season and trying to get beyond the days of signing players on too high. In the past two or three windows we have cut a bunch of players who were on 100k+. It is why if be surprised if a deal was offered to Branthwaite that exceeded 100k. There is a balance that can be met though of course.
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I do genuinely hope that continues, because I think it's negligent that owners can let clubs get in this situation.

And I'm not even talking specifically about Everton. There are similar situations at other clubs. Even with us, we give out ridiculous contracts but we're saved by the money we generate. And then the situation further down the leagues is even more dire.
 
SilentWitness said:
We have been cutting the wage bill every season and trying to get beyond the days of signing players on too high. In the past two or three windows we have cut a bunch of players who were on 100k+. It is why if be surprised if a deal was offered to Branthwaite that exceeded 100k. There is a balance that can be met though of course.
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I don't think you'll be negotiating from a place of strength if he's going to be on sub-£100k after you've spent the summer telling him he's worth £100 million.

The only way he's accepting less than £100k is if you include a release clause for a more reasonable fee.
 
Alex99 said:
I don't think you'll be negotiating from a place of strength if he's going to be on sub-£100k after you've spent the summer telling him he's worth £100 million.

The only way he's accepting less than £100k is if you include a release clause for a more reasonable fee.
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Why have you inflated the fee to 100m? :confused:
 
SilentWitness said:
Why have you inflated the fee to 100m? :confused:
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Because your former CEO (or someone like that) said he was worth £100 million. I've used that figure loads. He's not a £70 million player either, if that makes you feel any better.
 
Alex99 said:
Because your former CEO (or someone like that) said he was worth £100 million. I've used that figure loads. He's not a £70 million player either, if that makes you feel any better.
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Nice, so you have no intention of debating in good faith. :)
 
SilentWitness said:
Nice, so you have no intention of debating in good faith. :)
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Again, he's not a £70 million player either. The position isn't strengthened by reducing the fee.

You can't spend all summer blowing smoke up his arse about him being one of the most valuable defenders on the planet, then tell him he's not worth £100k a week and expect him to roll over.
 
I mean it's clear Branthwaite wants to come to us. The question will be how much he'll agitate to make it happen. Based on what we've seen so far, not a lot.
 
Alex99 said:
Again, he's not a £70 million player either. The position isn't strengthened by reducing the fee.

You can't spend all summer blowing smoke up his arse about him being one of the most valuable defenders on the planet, then tell him he's not worth £100k a week and expect him to roll over.
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Cool. :)
 
Fortitude said:
:angel: OK.

I can imagine it’s frustrating for Everton supporters given the tailspin.
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I don't mind but I'm always just trying to post from the view of what I think the club will do or what they have said really based on the sources that I know, read and listen to. If Branthwaite leaves then it is what it is and if he refused a deal offered then it is what it is but I think sometimes people here get weirdly personal and/or they just hoover up every bit of info as fact when it's from really poor quality sources.
 
SilentWitness said:
I don't mind but I'm always just trying to post from the view of what I think the club will do or what they have said really based on the sources that I know, read and listen to. If Branthwaite leaves then it is what it is and if he refused a deal offered then it is what it is but I think sometimes people here get weirdly personal and/or they just hoover up every bit of info as fact when it's from really poor quality sources.
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It's not from Wheeler or Ladyman who are the DMs most reliable sources on United matters. But I wouldn't call the DM poor quality (for football news at least).
 
Prodigal7 said:
It's not from Wheeler or Ladyman who are the DMs most reliable sources on United matters. But I wouldn't call the DM poor quality (for football news at least).
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It's a banned source on here for transfer information.

Funnily, both the Mail and Jones are separately so it is a double whammy.
 
SilentWitness said:
I don't mind but I'm always just trying to post from the view of what I think the club will do or what they have said really based on the sources that I know, read and listen to. If Branthwaite leaves then it is what it is and if he refused a deal offered then it is what it is but I think sometimes people here get weirdly personal and/or they just hoover up every bit of info as fact when it's from really poor quality sources.
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Fair. I just think it’s a very logical conclusion, one which I raised as well as many others. Your club is in a real pickle with this one; you can’t set a ptice whilst simultaneously undercutting the player when it comes to wages of said price point. A paradox you can’t really escape.
 
Fortitude said:
Fair. I just think it’s a very logical conclusion, one which I raised as well as many others. Your club is in a real pickle with this one; you can’t set a ptice whilst simultaneously undercutting the player when it comes to wages of said price point. A paradox you can’t really escape.
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I would assume that we have taken that gamble though since the deal he signed was until 2027, so it gives us a bit more wiggle room in terms of next summer.
 
Not that I expect that number to be accurate but 160k/week would be a bit much to put him on.
 
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