Wtf are you talking about?
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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Sorry. I posted that when pissed. Deleted that and a couple more.
The same kook that is pretty much objectively regarded as one of the greatest minds of our time and has been writing on world events for 60 years in an almost prophetic and uncanny manner?
But no let's go with the genius minds at The Sun and Co.
Firstly, that's a solid ad hominem.
Secondly, this "kook" is likely more intelligent than each of us and wiser than each of us combined. But it offends your preconceived opinions, so we'll just dismiss it out-of-hand as the ramblings of a kook. Sure.
Wow his manifesto is scary...
What scares you about it?
Look, people aren't interested in experts ok. We've been over this before...
Has to be Rachel Reeves.
The fact he pretty much wants to rid us of our defences against the world.
That's not in the manifesto that we've seen. It commits to defence spending at 2% and pledges to replace Trident.
Replace it with what?
Like for like replacement that's already underway.
I'm not convinced. He's made it clear before about how he doesn't like using our defences.
An image of jezza bonning abbot. 1000m high, holographic, able to be projected at any hostile capital at the press of a button.
Sure, but that's more a longstanding view about Corbyn himself rather than the manifesto.
You mean, like the last time we were attacked?
You should watch his speech about trident. He's absolutely right, what does it protect you from?
But you made out that you thought the manifesto was 'scary' then you failed to point to anything in the manifesto you found 'scary'. Instead you pointed to something in the manifesto that was pretty much the same as The Torries and then when that was pointed out to you, you claimed 'yea but ummm it doesn't fall in line with what he said earlier'.
So nothing in the actual manifesto you can actually point to having an issue with then? Basically meaning you hadn't actually bothered to read the manifesto at all.
This ladies and gentleman is the British Electorate....
Indeed... and it's why having Corbyn as a leader dooms Labour to failure because of his past reputation and his inability to woo non corbyniatas
Sure because you've read the manifesto cover to cover.
You said the leaked manifesto was 'scary' yet you can't point out any policy within the leaked manifesto you actually have an issue with.
he was so confident in his post as wellI'd rather have someone who won't nuke people, tbh.
Imagine being a Labour Party member and criticising your own manifesto for helping the poor.
Has to be Rachel Reeves.
No. That's controversial now. If you don't admit that you would commit war crimes by preemptively striking an adversary you are not fit to rule the country. Or something.
It's probably (hopefully) a "my rag supporting mate" type source.
Ask a Ukrainian.
Can't you wait until someone like that becomes Labour leader either? I'm finding it like Christmas Eve every day.
Well you claim you've read it! From the sound bites I've seen he's very soft on defence, he doesn't like nuclear deterrent which I get but every country has it you can't just potentially get rid of it. I remember once before he suggested we talk to the terrorists, whilst I admire his enthusiasm we have to be realistic, these people don't want to talk they just want blood shed. There does that reasoning satisfy you now?
Seriously?!? Whats the feck is wrong with the Labour party sometimes?
It's one of the few things he's completely full of shit over. Our nuclear deterrent is absolutely vital to the defence of the country, unless we're ok with just hiding under the nuclear shields of France or the US.
Agreed its the only thing keeping those damn vikings and nazis at bay. As soon as its gone we're toast!
Thats the NEC and disciplinary committee. The same one that banned someone for once voting green from voting in the leadership election (for corbyn).Seriously?!? Whats the feck is wrong with the Labour party sometimes?
It is still dominated by progress members, and they run it as blair taught them to, no dissent, purge anyone who does not follow the one true path.
It is actually ironic that they often call corbyn the 'dear leader', because he seems quite big on decentralized power within the party and giving the members more say. Blair was the one who demanded complete control and restructured the entire party to get it, something his supporters are still benefiting from now.
The tories who have cut defences to the bone, enough that you actually have something to be frightened of. For instance, we now have just 89,000 active service men and women, we could fit our entire army in Wembley Stadium.
We have a navy whose flagship is now officially declared a dry dock because it cannot move, two aircraft carriers with no airplanes to put on them (for at least 5 years), and a destroyer fleet that cannot be used in warm waters as the engines break down. Good luck with the great war for Gibraltar fallon you tit.
The the air force, half the planes are grounded to be canabalised to keep the other half in the air, meaning we have perhaps 50 viable combat airplanes all told.
We currently have a grand total of 3, that is THREE, coastal protection boats to cover the entire coastline of the UK.
For reference, Italy has 600 for theirs.
And people will still say tories are for defence.
Not that we should spend a second worrying about a resurgent Russia that just illegally annexed part of a neighboring state, is currently threatening Eastern Europe and may have just put its own stooge into the White House. I'm sure the threat of our conventional weapons will be enough to scare them off..
I'm calling bullshit... we have over 140 eurofighters that are less than 10 years old
We still have 80 tornados
We have a lot more than 50 viable combat planes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_United_Kingdom_military_aircraft
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gen...al-Air-Force-has-available-to-fight-Isil.html
Note the source, this is not a left wing conspiracy.
British voters overwhelmingly back Labour’s manifesto policies, poll finds
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...k-policies-jeremy-corbyn-latest-a7731536.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...k-policies-jeremy-corbyn-latest-a7731536.html
He's got a month to prove his credentials and the Labour parties credentials. Eds policies were popular, policies alone don't get people's votes unfortunately.