Unless DDG would be willing and able to adapt his style of keeping, I think that's quite possible. On current form, I guess Ederson would be likely to start ahead of DDG under Pep, if he had the choice between the two of them.
Joe Hart | Performances
- Thread starter Samid
- Start date
If it wasn’t Pep who ditched him, someone else would have sooner rather than later. He’d been a weaker member of the City team for a while. Pep had the gravitas to cut through the politics of cutting him adrift. Seems like he was another player who got too comfortable once he achieved a level of success. Hee should be at his peak now, but could well face having to take a mega paycut and dropping down to the Championship for his next contract. He’s going to struggle to find many suitors, but one sucker who will be lured by the thought of having England’s Number One is enough.
Edersons shot stopping has been top notch, by and large. No one seems to have tested him too much on the aerial bombardment, yet! He does make the odd rush and mess up, think pre season friendly against United, but it isn't apart of his game I think Pep would want to lose.
Bravo isn't as bad as made out, he had a shocking season, but has had a fairly solid career. Think he came a season or two too late.
On a slight tangent, why do people put fish in kettles?
He will mate. We're not so blessed with keepers that we can leave out Hart.
Would guess Buttland, Forster and Hart will all go. Not sure of the order though.
Actually yeah I agree with that. He won’t be first choice though.
Sorry but i would take Pickford, Nick Pope, Butland, Forster, Heaton (is due back any day now),Ben Foster's had a decent season in a shite WBA team....i would take all of these over Joe Hart.
Yeah the decline started pre-Pep, though it’s accelerated over the past year or so.
Looks like the England’s Brave Lion Hart bollocks simply went to his head. And shoulders
He should just piss off abroad. Playing in the championship would be embarrassing.
But where? In Italy, he’s thought of as a joke after his Torino season. No top club are going to want to pay his wages and the second tier clubs in Europe have have far less to spend on wages. MLS, maybe?
If I was him I'd go to the MLS, why not. Great lifestyle, good money, and he'd be respected there.
That scenario wouldn't surprise me either. I don't think he'd have pushed De Gea out of the door as quickly as he did with Joe Hart though.
Another start, another high profile mistake.
He has been poor for years, amazed he is Englands no1. Criminally overrated
He has been poor for years, amazed he is Englands no1. Criminally overrated
If we're going in form then Pope surely has to be right up there no? 11 clean sheets now for Burnley in the PL and he's high up in the shots saved stat.
I like Pope but this stat means nothing. Burnley's entire defensive game plan is based around forcing the opponents to shoot from less than ideal positions and angles. Put any half decent goalie in their goal and he would also be high up on that stat.
I think Pickford and Butland are nailed on and the final spot should be between one of Heaton or Pope. The thing working against the Burnley boys is that they play in a system completely alien compared to the one England try to play. Their distribution isn't top notch and I can't see it going down too well with the NT coach who already has dropped one of his CBs (Smalling) because 'he can't play with his feet' or something.
Angus Gunn on loan from City in the Championship is another one that is being considered but can't say I've paid much attention to him.
Oh I have zero confidence in Southgates ability to pick the right players so i'm sure you're right. I'm just saying based on form Nick Pope imo is one of the best English keepers, he should certainly be tried in these friendlies but i'll be surprised if Southgate does.
I'm sure that in his heart of hearts Southgate is perfectly aware of who he should be picking, and who not.
I'm pretty certain he'll pick whoever the press/his bosses tell him to though, just like his predecessors. The notoriously self-confident Sam Allardyce admitted he was powerless to stop Wayne Rooney doing whatever he pleased in an England shirt.
Maybe that's the case, it shouldn't ever be like that and precisely part of the problem. I didn't realise Sam admitted that.
Just wondering if Hart's return has coincided with West Ham going back to getting thumped week in week out. he is third-rate
He's not played in the league since November so no...they're just shite as a whole.
he was there on Saturday and gifted them a goal
I know he was. I thought you were asking why they have started getting battered again recently (4-1 vs. Swansea, 3-1 vs Brighton, 4-1 vs. Liverpool) in which case it's unfair to blame Hart cos he didn't play in any of them games.
Not sure FIK but I know people who have shit in kettles before but putting fish in one just sounds weird....
If Joe Hart is picked then it sums up everything wrong in the England setup for the past decade
His form has really dropped - hasn't head-butted a ref in ages.
He'd probably get sent off now for doing that.
In his glory days he could do it as much as he wanted apparently
I doubt he did considering Rooney wasn't even in the squad for the game Allardyce was in charge
He was.I doubt he did considering Rooney wasn't even in the squad for the game Allardyce was in charge
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37207681
"Today Wayne played wherever he wanted to. He was brilliant and controlled midfield. I can't stop Wayne playing there."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-wayne-rooney-can-play-wherever-he-wants-aft/
Honestly what happened. He was a bit overrated but a pretty good keeper before. How did he decline so fast. Is there an injury I am missing?
I think he has mental health issues, and I'm not joking.
fair fecks, I thought he'd been dropped by then
Playing himself out of World Cup contention. Shame as a neutral 
That is one of his worst tonight. I've never seen that 'technique' he was trying to do with that shot tonight.
Anyone got a gif of his howler?
Was getting pelters on Talkshite.
Not in the World Cup squad apparently. Well done to Southgate for seeing some common sense.
Easiest decision he'll ever have to make, no one's going to question it based on his performances this season or even last season.
Thank god - and I hope the reports are right. I honestly thought Southgate would play him as first choice because of you know "experience".