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I get your point, but he just turned 58, not 68!He's old, people. Simple as that
I get your point, but he just turned 58, not 68!He's old, people. Simple as that
Again, great analysis.He believes(not wrongly) that the team that makes fewest mistakes wins. So his focus is on limiting mistakes. That's why he's so conservative and negative - it's all aimed at reducing big mistakes(for that matter, Klopp and the modern german school also follow the same principle, but take it in a completely different direction. Instead of limiting their team's mistakes, they focus on forcing the opponent to make them). And the truth is players and teams are better than ever. Modern teams rarely make mistakes unless you force them to. So Mourinho's approach, it actually has a much smaller margin for error than Klopp's or Guardiola's. But again, he's just too old to change now
As for training methods, mourinho's teams don't look like teams coached with the ball. And it is well known that Mourinho did comparatively little training with the ball, even 10 years ago. Only these days, with the modern players and their fitness, and better coaching across the board at every level, if you don't know what to do with the ball the result will be, spurs. A team that struggles to mount more than 4-5 attacks per game against any opposition that isn't hilariously overwhelmed by the talent disparity. Winning in 2021 with 4 attacks is really, really, really, really hard to pull off.
as for man management, well, yeah. Again, he's old. Used to work with a different generation of players that were less curious, less professionals(in the most literal sense), more conditioned to just do what they're told and not ask questions, with access to significantly less information, etc. Mourinho has *always* found a player to throw under the bus, for example. It's one of the staples of his man management, find someone he doesn't need and then paint him as a bad influence, an enemy, in an effort to further strengthen his bond to *his* players, and between them. That worked with the older generations. With the currents one though, they see through the bs and it becomes counter-productive instead
He's been around for 20 years, most of it at the top of the gameI get your point, but he just turned 58, not 68!
There's really no need for anyone to clown on Glaston, he manages it just fine by himself.
This all reads well and makes sense from a certain viewpoint but major plot hole in it is that Mourinho was a manager winning major league titles 5/6/7 years ago.He believes(not wrongly) that the team that makes fewest mistakes wins. So his focus is on limiting mistakes. That's why he's so conservative and negative - it's all aimed at reducing big mistakes(for that matter, Klopp and the modern german school also follow the same principle, but take it in a completely different direction. Instead of limiting their team's mistakes, they focus on forcing the opponent to make them). And the truth is players and teams are better than ever. Modern teams rarely make mistakes unless you force them to. So Mourinho's approach, it actually has a much smaller margin for error than Klopp's or Guardiola's. But again, he's just too old to change now
As for training methods, mourinho's teams don't look like teams coached with the ball. And it is well known that Mourinho did comparatively little training with the ball, even 10 years ago. Only these days, with the modern players and their fitness, and better coaching across the board at every level, if you don't know what to do with the ball the result will be, spurs. A team that struggles to mount more than 4-5 attacks per game against any opposition that isn't hilariously overwhelmed by the talent disparity. Winning in 2021 with 4 attacks is really, really, really, really hard to pull off.
as for man management, well, yeah. Again, he's old. Used to work with a different generation of players that were less curious, less professionals(in the most literal sense), more conditioned to just do what they're told and not ask questions, with access to significantly less information, etc. Mourinho has *always* found a player to throw under the bus, for example. It's one of the staples of his man management, find someone he doesn't need and then paint him as a bad influence, an enemy, in an effort to further strengthen his bond to *his* players, and between them. That worked with the older generations. With the currents one though, they see through the bs and it becomes counter-productive instead
Fully agree with this theory. I think due to him knowing he no longer has the best team(s) he’s gone to an even more extreme version of himself. Ultra defensive, focusing more on small and minor margins in games. Overly focusing on the opposition. He’s lost patience and becomes fed up of his players far too quickly (See Shaw, Ali, Bale)Because back then he was younger, hungrier and inspitational, his players would run through a wall for him. He was also pragmatic, his ability to read games was exceptional and he was fearless. This kind of park the bus and try to nick a goal on one or 2 counters was something he did very rarely. His teams were significantly more proactive about trying to score, much more aggressive when they needed to be and generally the way they played against bottom of the league vs big away games was very different. His chelsea went to camp nou in 2007 and forced barcelona to play on the counter
with inter, the way they played in the league vs CL was like two different teams. Even in madrid he was still pragmatic enough to mix it up, even at camp nou
Now he's old, hunger has been replaced by fear and he struggles to connect with his players. He's no longer pragmatic either - it's no longer about winning, but winning his way. He's no different than a guardiola, only his own philosophy is based on fear
To all that, add in the way football evolved, players are fitter and faster than ever, and his playing style is just old. Much is made of Atletico Madrid and Simeone, but just one look at their teams is enough to see the difference: atletico madrid fly all over the pitch. They may play the same way, but they do so with significantly more energy and high intensity, which is why it works(that, plus simeone is very much the kind of inspirational leader Mou used to be). More than anything, it's his training methods that appear to be obsolete
Agree. Also hello fellow England supporter! (I know there are lots on here but you're the only other person I've seen with it on their profile)Spurs were by a mile the more passive and inferior team and absolutely deserved to lose.
Mourinho refuses to learn his lesson. His entire style of football relies on his defenders making no mistakes which is always going to fail when you don’t have good defenders. If he were really a pragmatist he’d devise a style that actually played to the strengths of his squad.
I feel like it is not that uncommon for people who are seen as pragmatic to get stuck in their own ways eventuallySpurs were by a mile the more passive and inferior team and absolutely deserved to lose.
Mourinho refuses to learn his lesson. His entire style of football relies on his defenders making no mistakes which is always going to fail when you don’t have good defenders. If he were really a pragmatist he’d devise a style that actually played to the strengths of his squad.
One of these things is not like the other.So many Spurs fans on here argued with me their second 11 is better than ours
Talking about the best strike force in Son Kane Bale
That’s really similar to his weird interruption to Son’s interview this season. I still can’t believe how many people bought into the jovial Mourinho facade after that Amazon “documentary”.
The look on Luiz's face before he realises it's a joke tells you so much about the real Mourinho. Hazard also looks relieved and he's not even the one in the firing line
Superb postBecause back then he was younger, hungrier and inspitational, his players would run through a wall for him. He was also pragmatic, his ability to read games was exceptional and he was fearless. This kind of park the bus and try to nick a goal on one or 2 counters was something he did very rarely. His teams were significantly more proactive about trying to score, much more aggressive when they needed to be and generally the way they played against bottom of the league vs big away games was very different. His chelsea went to camp nou in 2007 and forced barcelona to play on the counter
with inter, the way they played in the league vs CL was like two different teams. Even in madrid he was still pragmatic enough to mix it up, even at camp nou
Now he's old, hunger has been replaced by fear and he struggles to connect with his players. He's no longer pragmatic either - it's no longer about winning, but winning his way. He's no different than a guardiola, only his own philosophy is based on fear
To all that, add in the way football evolved, players are fitter and faster than ever, and his playing style is just old. Much is made of Atletico Madrid and Simeone, but just one look at their teams is enough to see the difference: atletico madrid fly all over the pitch. They may play the same way, but they do so with significantly more energy and high intensity, which is why it works(that, plus simeone is very much the kind of inspirational leader Mou used to be). More than anything, it's his training methods that appear to be obsolete
I don't have the greatest memory of Jose's career at Madrid and Chelsea, but at Porto, the first stint at Chelsea and Inter, he always seemed to really understand how to create a siege mentality and squad cohesion through uber-confidence. His players also seemed to be willing to run through a wall for him, especially the star players. He was also ultra confident and while he never was too keen on taking blame, he was, like Sir Alex, good at protecting his squad and diverting blame to others.I don’t think he’s lost a desire to do well but he seems like a man who is now so insecure that it’s completely compromised his ability to manage and coach properly. People point to Madrid as being the turning point, but I think it was that third season at Chelsea. The worse he’d done before then was finish 3rd, at that point at Chelsea he was in a relegation battle and losing every single week.
How much, if any, and indeed why did his time at Madrid change Mourinho for the worse?He believes(not wrongly) that the team that makes fewest mistakes wins. So his focus is on limiting mistakes. That's why he's so conservative and negative - it's all aimed at reducing big mistakes(for that matter, Klopp and the modern german school also follow the same principle, but take it in a completely different direction. Instead of limiting their team's mistakes, they focus on forcing the opponent to make them). And the truth is players and teams are better than ever. Modern teams rarely make mistakes unless you force them to. So Mourinho's approach, it actually has a much smaller margin for error than Klopp's or Guardiola's. But again, he's just too old to change now
As for training methods, mourinho's teams don't look like teams coached with the ball. And it is well known that Mourinho did comparatively little training with the ball, even 10 years ago. Only these days, with the modern players and their fitness, and better coaching across the board at every level, if you don't know what to do with the ball the result will be, spurs. A team that struggles to mount more than 4-5 attacks per game against any opposition that isn't hilariously overwhelmed by the talent disparity. Winning in 2021 with 4 attacks is really, really, really, really hard to pull off.
as for man management, well, yeah. Again, he's old. Used to work with a different generation of players that were less curious, less professionals(in the most literal sense), more conditioned to just do what they're told and not ask questions, with access to significantly less information, etc. Mourinho has *always* found a player to throw under the bus, for example. It's one of the staples of his man management, find someone he doesn't need and then paint him as a bad influence, an enemy, in an effort to further strengthen his bond to *his* players, and between them. That worked with the older generations. With the currents one though, they see through the bs and it becomes counter-productive instead
I understand that, but what I don't understand is why the continuation of terrible tactics? His attacking play was never this bad... well unless you include the worst parts of his time at United.I don't have the greatest memory of Jose's career at Madrid and Chelsea, but at Porto, the first stint at Chelsea and Inter, he always seemed to really understand how to create a siege mentality and squad cohesion through uber-confidence. His players also seemed to be willing to run through a wall for him, especially the star players. He was also ultra confident and while he never was too keen on taking blame, he was, like Sir Alex, good at protecting his squad and diverting blame to others.
I feel like the two sackings played out in pretty similar ways. Second season success followed by destruction in the third year where he wore out his welcome. Also, something that was new was that at both Madrid and his second Chelsea stint, from what I remember, when the squads completely turned on Jose, it was his big players that did so. It is like he was trying to create that siege mentality by turning the players on one another. He also started taking shots at his own players in the media - perhaps he did so at Porto and Chelsea the first time, but it seemed like his confidence turned to petty scrabbling and he couldn't accept blame for his own short comings. Obviously that continued at United and it continues now at Spurs.
Madrid damaged him for sure, but maybe his fall at Chelsea, where he was a literal god, was what finished him off.
Never considered that re: Chelsea stint. Is this when he returned?This all reads well and makes sense from a certain viewpoint but major plot hole in it is that Mourinho was a manager winning major league titles 5/6/7 years ago.
Football has not changed that dramatically since then. After all he’s competing against the likes of Klopp and Pep who were around then and haven’t changed their approaches much in the last seven years or so. The Dortmund and Barcelona team he came up against were two of the fittest teams ever.
Also you speak about ‘older generations’. If you were talking about late 90’s, early 00’s then yeah I think there has been an obvious change in a footballers mental make up since then but since five years ago? Not so much.
I do think it’s a little overstated that Mourinhos methods are simply outdated and that football has advanced beyond him. I feel it’s more so that Mourinho is not using the same methods he was using that made him a success. He has changed and for the worse and he hasn’t been at teams anywhere near the quality of his teams of the past. Mentality and ability wise.
I went back a page and saw this post form you which I think actually hits the nail on the head.
Fully agree with this theory. I think due to him knowing he no longer has the best team(s) he’s gone to an even more extreme version of himself. Ultra defensive, focusing more on small and minor margins in games. Overly focusing on the opposition. He’s lost patience and becomes fed up of his players far too quickly (See Shaw, Ali, Bale)
I don’t think he’s lost a desire to do well but he seems like a man who is now so insecure that it’s completely compromised his ability to manage and coach properly. People point to Madrid as being the turning point, but I think it was that third season at Chelsea. The worse he’d done before then was finish 3rd, at that point at Chelsea he was in a relegation battle and losing every single week.
To be clear. He's not a bad manager. He's no longer a great one, but he's still not a bad manager either. Simply put, in his prime he was one of the rare managers that gave him team a real edge over the competition. Now he doesn't, like most managers.This all reads well and makes sense from a certain viewpoint but major plot hole in it is that Mourinho was a manager winning major league titles 5/6/7 years ago.
Football *has* changed significantly compared to 5 years ago. 5 years is an eternity in football, when players careers last around 10 years or so at the top. And his record against guardiola and klopp was really poor even back thenFootball has not changed that dramatically since then. After all he’s competing against the likes of Klopp and Pep who were around then and haven’t changed their approaches much in the last seven years or so. The Dortmund and Barcelona team he came up against were two of the fittest teams ever.
And how did his chelsea stint end? How many players from that chelsea side are still at the top?Also you speak about ‘older generations’. If you were talking about late 90’s, early 00’s then yeah I think there has been an obvious change in a footballers mental make up since then but since five years ago? Not so much.
DefinitelyI don’t think he’s lost a desire to do well but he seems like a man who is now so insecure that it’s completely compromised his ability to manage and coach properly.
A lot. It was a combination if factors, the most important of which was the media's fawning over Guardiola and his football. That's what hardened his stance, more than anything else. And then he lost the dressing room, for the first time in his career. The experience did a lot of damage, for a man who craves recognition and cares deeply about reputationHow much, if any, and indeed why did his time at Madrid change Mourinho for the worse?
It's as if his father passing + Madrid has completely shattered him at some level added to how much football has changed in the past 10 years.
Ferguson was smart enough to get new perspectives and went through Knox, Kidd, McClaren, Queiroz, Smith and Meulensteen to continually evolve and refresh his teams.I genuinely think the game has moved on and he has no idea how to adapt, much like Arsene Wenger. It's no shame, happens to most managers and he'll still go down as one of the greats. This makes me realise just how special SAF was, top of his game for 20+ years! God I miss that man!
“Reactionary”.The word pragmatic has to be the most abused word in football nowadays.
Being a kid in England during the 1990 World Cup there was only ever one choice but I’ve taken plenty of stick for it from my dad’s side of the family, especially during the 2008-2012 period!Agree. Also hello fellow England supporter! (I know there are lots on here but you're the only other person I've seen with it on their profile)
That is Joses biggest problem. he strikes me as a bullying control freak whose man management skills are lacking. He takes over A club all smiles and initially results go well.. once the honeymoon period is over his toxicity starts to seep out and players soon stop performing either due to his negative attitutude or due to his negative tactics. His public criticism of players as things go wrong is self defeating and the toxicity spreads and deepens..Has he started throwing people under the bus to save his skin yet?
The current scrutiny was on him late last season, and then this season early on they had a very short spell of games booting the goals. That seemed to seduce some knee jerkers into thinking that they were "genuine title contenders" as one paper called them!I love seeing this guy fail so much. I was loathe to admit earlier in the season that he was doing a decent job and had pulled a masterstroke in converting Kane into a playmaker. It's nice to see him regress to his negative self. He's a miserable, stubborn old dinosaur who has no business managing at anywhere near top level anymore. I'm so happy we got rid of him.
Yep, I swear some people think it means something around the terms negative or cautious.The word pragmatic has to be the most abused word in football nowadays.
Which is weird because it was one of his strengths at Chelsea and Inter, and I assume Porto. He was known for being tactically innovative early in his career and being relatively versatile at Inter, but the strengths of his most successful teams is that there were squads of players that generally seemed to love, revere or respect Jose. He crafted squads that had strong winning mentalities.That is Joses biggest problem. he strikes me as a bullying control freak whose man management skills are lacking. He takes over A club all smiles and initially results go well.. once the honeymoon period is over his toxicity starts to seep out and players soon stop performing either due to his negative attitutude or due to his negative tactics. His public criticism of players as things go wrong is self defeating and the toxicity spreads and deepens..
It's because for a while we associated "pragmatic football" with the tactics of managers like Dyche or Allardyce, managers who generally had demonstrably inferior players in terms of technique, so played well organised defensive football and relied upon route one to nick a goal. Given the players those managers had, that style of football was truly pragmatic.Yep, I swear some people think it means something around the terms negative or cautious.
The actual definition is dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.
There's nothing realistic or sensible about the way he sets this Tottenham team up and if anything it is totally based on the "theoretical consideration" Jose has of trying to limit his own team's mistakes and sit back awaiting a mistake from the opposition.
Yeah for sure, I don’t think he’s that bad either. I’ve even had a few disagreements on here that he wasn’t ‘that bad’ for us. But to put it bluntly he isn’t special anymore.To be clear. He's not a bad manager. He's no longer a great one, but he's still not a bad manager either. Simply put, in his prime he was one of the rare managers that gave him team a real edge over the competition. Now he doesn't, like most managers.
Regarding his last title win with chelsea, it was actually a pretty clear picture of his decline. They were aggressive and fearless and looking every bit like a good mourinho side right until the spurs game. And then...they turned into an hyper negative, scared side that was terrified of opening up and had to rely entirely on Hazard, Fabregas and Diego Costa to pull off wins. A team that was dominated, at home, by a 10 man manchester city. And then by PSG in CL, culminating in elimination. They won the league anyways, because they had Hazard, Diego Costa, Fabregas, Matic and Courtois, and the premier league was *weak* at the time. Behind the curve with old and/or mediocre managers
Football *has* changed significantly compared to 5 years ago. 5 years is an eternity in football, when players careers last around 10 years or so at the top. And his record against guardiola and klopp was really poor even back then
And how did his chelsea stint end? How many players from that chelsea side are still at the top?
Definitely
A lot. It was a combination if factors, the most important of which was the media's fawning over Guardiola and his football. That's what hardened his stance, more than anything else. And then he lost the dressing room, for the first time in his career. The experience did a lot of damage, for a man who craves recognition and cares deeply about reputation
Yeah, the mental make up of footballers had shifted by time he went to Real and back to Chelsea. At Chelsea first time round, he still had those hard characters Terry, Carvalho, Lampard, Essien who you know if he gave a bollocking to theyd take it on board and come out determined. By time he was at Real he was with players like Ramos, Ronaldo, Ozil who you need to be a bit more delicate with.I don't have the greatest memory of Jose's career at Madrid and Chelsea, but at Porto, the first stint at Chelsea and Inter, he always seemed to really understand how to create a siege mentality and squad cohesion through uber-confidence. His players also seemed to be willing to run through a wall for him, especially the star players. He was also ultra confident and while he never was too keen on taking blame, he was, like Sir Alex, good at protecting his squad and diverting blame to others.
I feel like the two sackings played out in pretty similar ways. Second season success followed by destruction in the third year where he wore out his welcome. Also, something that was new was that at both Madrid and his second Chelsea stint, from what I remember, when the squads completely turned on Jose, it was his big players that did so. It is like he was trying to create that siege mentality by turning the players on one another. He also started taking shots at his own players in the media - perhaps he did so at Porto and Chelsea the first time, but it seemed like his confidence turned to petty scrabbling and he couldn't accept blame for his own short comings. Obviously that continued at United and it continues now at Spurs.
Madrid damaged him for sure, but maybe his fall at Chelsea, where he was a literal god, was what finished him off.
Yeah the second spell. Mainly that January to December 2015 period.Never considered that re: Chelsea stint. Is this when he returned?
You don't think he'll at least stay for the league cup final?If we lose at the weekend then Jose will get sacked. That is my prediction.
That’s a long winded way of saying the obvious. He’s a cnut.That is Joses biggest problem. he strikes me as a bullying control freak whose man management skills are lacking. He takes over A club all smiles and initially results go well.. once the honeymoon period is over his toxicity starts to seep out and players soon stop performing either due to his negative attitutude or due to his negative tactics. His public criticism of players as things go wrong is self defeating and the toxicity spreads and deepens..
I think that is one of the things that separates Jose from Sir Alex in terms of their longevity in the game and their ability to relate to players over decades of management.Yeah, the mental make up of footballers had shifted by time he went to Real and back to Chelsea. At Chelsea first time round, he still had those hard characters Terry, Carvalho, Lampard, Essien who you know if he gave a bollocking to theyd take it on board and come out determined. By time he was at Real he was with players like Ramos, Ronaldo, Ozil who you need to be a bit more delicate with.
As you referred with his United and now Spurs spells is that he’s still trying to do it now even after it’s led to his downfall three times. Crazy. Calling out Dele Ali in public is 100% not going to lead to an upturn in Dele Ali performances.
I love Poch but his weakest aspect is his transfer market activity. He had the occasional hit (usually the cheaper buys) with Alderweireld, Trippier, Dele and Dier, and Son was a brilliant signing but his major strength was getting the best out of players who were already at the club and youngsters.You don't think he'll at least stay for the league cup final?
He's been backed more than Poch, anyway. He got 8 players in, right? Seems like Mourinho's already fell out or given up on most of them already. Just like here.
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Fear is the perfect word to encapsulate Mourinho’s football these days, I’d say. It’s as if he goes into most games now trying not to lose rather than proactively winning.Because back then he was younger, hungrier and inspitational, his players would run through a wall for him. He was also pragmatic, his ability to read games was exceptional and he was fearless. This kind of park the bus and try to nick a goal on one or 2 counters was something he did very rarely. His teams were significantly more proactive about trying to score, much more aggressive when they needed to be and generally the way they played against bottom of the league vs big away games was very different. His chelsea went to camp nou in 2007 and forced barcelona to play on the counter
with inter, the way they played in the league vs CL was like two different teams. Even in madrid he was still pragmatic enough to mix it up, even at camp nou
Now he's old, hunger has been replaced by fear and he struggles to connect with his players. He's no longer pragmatic either - it's no longer about winning, but winning his way. He's no different than a guardiola, only his own philosophy is based on fear
To all that, add in the way football evolved, players are fitter and faster than ever, and his playing style is just old. Much is made of Atletico Madrid and Simeone, but just one look at their teams is enough to see the difference: atletico madrid fly all over the pitch. They may play the same way, but they do so with significantly more energy and high intensity, which is why it works(that, plus simeone is very much the kind of inspirational leader Mou used to be). More than anything, it's his training methods that appear to be obsolete
Yeah, I think they’ll keep him for that game and if he loses that it’s curtains. That Matt Law article seems to suggest he hasn’t fully lost the dressing room yet.You don't think he'll at least stay for the league cup final?
He's been backed more than Poch, anyway. He got 8 players in, right? Seems like Mourinho's already fell out or given up on most of them already. Just like here.
Would be interesting to see, as that would be a calamitous loss, and the fourth in a row.If we lose at the weekend then Jose will get sacked. That is my prediction.
Yes that's it. That's exactly what it is. He's become afraid of losingFear is the perfect word to encapsulate Mourinho’s football these days, I’d say. It’s as if he goes into most games now trying not to lose rather than proactively winning.
Can’t see that happening. I think the league cup will have a big bearing on his future.If we lose at the weekend then Jose will get sacked. That is my prediction.
Because back then he was younger, hungrier and inspitational, his players would run through a wall for him. He was also pragmatic, his ability to read games was exceptional and he was fearless. This kind of park the bus and try to nick a goal on one or 2 counters was something he did very rarely. His teams were significantly more proactive about trying to score, much more aggressive when they needed to be and generally the way they played against bottom of the league vs big away games was very different. His chelsea went to camp nou in 2007 and forced barcelona to play on the counter
with inter, the way they played in the league vs CL was like two different teams. Even in madrid he was still pragmatic enough to mix it up, even at camp nou
Now he's old, hunger has been replaced by fear and he struggles to connect with his players. He's no longer pragmatic either - it's no longer about winning, but winning his way. He's no different than a guardiola, only his own philosophy is based on fear
To all that, add in the way football evolved, players are fitter and faster than ever, and his playing style is just old. Much is made of Atletico Madrid and Simeone, but just one look at their teams is enough to see the difference: atletico madrid fly all over the pitch. They may play the same way, but they do so with significantly more energy and high intensity, which is why it works(that, plus simeone is very much the kind of inspirational leader Mou used to be). More than anything, it's his training methods that appear to be obsolete
Good analysis.He believes(not wrongly) that the team that makes fewest mistakes wins. So his focus is on limiting mistakes. That's why he's so conservative and negative - it's all aimed at reducing big mistakes(for that matter, Klopp and the modern german school also follow the same principle, but take it in a completely different direction. Instead of limiting their team's mistakes, they focus on forcing the opponent to make them). And the truth is players and teams are better than ever. Modern teams rarely make mistakes unless you force them to. So Mourinho's approach, it actually has a much smaller margin for error than Klopp's or Guardiola's. But again, he's just too old to change now
As for training methods, mourinho's teams don't look like teams coached with the ball. And it is well known that Mourinho did comparatively little training with the ball, even 10 years ago. Only these days, with the modern players and their fitness, and better coaching across the board at every level, if you don't know what to do with the ball the result will be, spurs. A team that struggles to mount more than 4-5 attacks per game against any opposition that isn't hilariously overwhelmed by the talent disparity. Winning in 2021 with 4 attacks is really, really, really, really hard to pull off.
as for man management, well, yeah. Again, he's old. Used to work with a different generation of players that were less curious, less professionals(in the most literal sense), more conditioned to just do what they're told and not ask questions, with access to significantly less information, etc. Mourinho has *always* found a player to throw under the bus, for example. It's one of the staples of his man management, find someone he doesn't need and then paint him as a bad influence, an enemy, in an effort to further strengthen his bond to *his* players, and between them. That worked with the older generations. With the currents one though, they see through the bs and it becomes counter-productive instead