he does look pretty talented, hopefully, we sign him
I didn’t think players could sign a professional contract until they were 17, if that’s the case why is there a transfer fee in here at all? Can somebody with greater knowledge explain/clarify?Surely 16 year olds can't sign long term contracts (5 years) I'm pretty sure 3 years is the longest, so signing him for 25m and letting Birmingham have him for half the length of his contract would be unwise - unless I'm completely wrong on child contract laws?
Exactly, hence the reason why Birmingham aren't able to get him signed a professional contract until he turns 17 this summerI didn’t think players could sign a professional contract until they were 17, if that’s the case why is there a transfer fee in here at all? Can somebody with greater knowledge explain/clarify?
Yeah, very odd.I didn’t think players could sign a professional contract until they were 17, if that’s the case why is there a transfer fee in here at all? Can somebody with greater knowledge explain/clarify?
Maybe there's another player with the same name that you're referring to.Don't quite see it with this kid. He looks like he's physically mature for his age which allows him to get playing time but the comparisons with Pogba seem way off the mark. The difference in technique even at the same age is huge. He seems to have really shit balance and is always falling to the ground. Obviously has decent potential but I'd feel hesitant.
Well I presume Phelan liked what he saw.Ornstein in The Athletic backs up the claims we're after him for 25m, Phelan went to watch him play on Saturday.
Difference is we're buying from an English club and he's English. Still a lot I agree, but unfortunately it's not a surprise.25 million is mental, unless there’s a load of add ons. We signed one of the best 16 yr olds in Hannibal Mejbri, for 4 mil rising to 8 mil.
We offered more for Cherki and Mejbri isn't English or playing first team football25 million is mental, unless there’s a load of add ons. We signed one of the best 16 yr olds in Hannibal Mejbri, for 4 mil rising to 8 mil.
A major difference is the level they are playing atDifference is we're buying from an English club and he's English. Still a lot I agree, but unfortunately it's not a surprise.
Yep that too. Bellingham is already playing an important role in the 2nd tier of English football. You can't really compare the two.A major difference is the level they are playing at
Bellinghams a starter. Mejbri wanted out.25 million is mental, unless there’s a load of add ons. We signed one of the best 16 yr olds in Hannibal Mejbri, for 4 mil rising to 8 mil.
This is correct about Mejbri. We wouldn't have got him for the reported fee, if his family didn't have a big fall out with Monaco.Bellinghams a starter. Mejbri wanted out.
In Birminghams eyes, we're buying a first team star, not a youngster with potential.
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Exactly. It's like having an already established good loan club already in place. It's almost too logical for us though.He’s not an idiot this kid. Comes from a good background. A buy with a loan back would be ideal for everyone. No point farting about in the under 23s if he’s already getting minutes in the championship
If it's Phelan watching him and not Butt, I assume they want him in the first team, sort of like they tried with Greenwood, Gomes and Chong.Exactly. It's like having an already established good loan club already in place. It's almost too logical for us though.
I think it's wierdCastles is saying that Birmingham want a 18 months loan back.
I think a 18 month loan at Birmingham would take him to 18 years of age and would suit everyone.
I think if his form dropped and wasn't playing much, Birmingham would terminate the loan.I think it's wierd
What if his form drops off and he is out of the team for 18 months
For a key player it makes sense or a 16 year old in some tiny league who is going to get a club promoted
Nonsense, that would make him our best midfielderI know nothing about him. But 51.7% passing accuracy today suggests that he's not ready for the PL any time soon.
You can see the platform we are building. If this you can't win with kids project is fulfilled, we will have a solid platform for the next ten years going forward.Get this done. Despite our current state, we’re actually set up brilliantly for a couple of years down the road with our current crop of 16-24 year old players, IF we make the proper complimentary first team signings. This lad could be a huge part of that. Send him back to Birmingham for 6-18 months, and if the latter, put a recall clause in for next season. £25 may be a lot, but this has the feel of something we’ll regret in a few years if we don’t do it, or a signing that will cost us multiples down the road after he moves to Leicester or somewhere else and does brilliantly.
He'll have signed a scholarship contract at 16 with a 1/2 year scholarship & guaranteed 2 year professional dealI didn’t think players could sign a professional contract until they were 17, if that’s the case why is there a transfer fee in here at all? Can somebody with greater knowledge explain/clarify?
Exactly. Shaping up nicely.You can see the platform we are building. If this you can't win with kids project is fulfilled, we will have a solid platform for the next ten years going forward.
Let's hope Woodward has the cojones to go through with it and withstand any fan pressure in wanting quick results.Exactly. Shaping up nicely.
I think the thought process here is that if he signs a contract with them this year, he would cost a lot more than 25mI didn’t think players could sign a professional contract until they were 17, if that’s the case why is there a transfer fee in here at all? Can somebody with greater knowledge explain/clarify?
Not sure I get this, he hasn't signed the contract yet which is presumably why we're looking at him now. The only way what you're saying makes sense is if the Bellinghams are that in love with Brum they are asking us to give Birmingham a £25m fee as an apology. If we're being asked to give £25m away, you would have thought his parents would want it giving to him/them as a signing on fee rather than to Birmingham City, unless they are either already multi-millionaires or, idiots.I think the thought process here is that if he signs a contract with them this year, he would cost a lot more than 25m
The whole thing about the tribunal fee is the Bellingham and his family are very loyal to Bermingham and would most likely sign the contract, so we would not get the chance to sign him on the free and pay the minimal fee.
This way, we get the player and they get compensated, with the possibly of keeping the lad on loan to develop