I honestly might become a vegan after watching that. Horrific stuff
Kurt Zouma / 180 hours community service + banned from keeping cats for 5 years
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Not deflecting shit. Cut and paste the FA admission and apology. I can cut and paste Eddy’s apology. I guess he must of paid back the 100k fine too.
I thought it was a good video
The punishment as far lower and less severe than abandoning an actual child. In no way are pets cared for like a child.
I hate the whole pets are like kids thing, it's such bollocks!
I have pets and kids, I love both (not equally), I don't neuter the kids or make them shit in the garden and if I ever had to make a choice between them, the kids would win hands down every time, though I don't tell them that!
I prefer pets to kids
Probably the wrong thread to say things in jest but my son is teenage & his attitude often ranks him below the cat lately. Part of me feels he’d enjoy living down the bottom of the garden.
I don't need to cut and paste bits of it, the whole post was supercilious, you just seemingly don't have the self-awareness to recognise this.
Most humans don't eat certain other (non-human) animals either - for whatever reason (could be religious reasons, could be that they just find the animal in question disgusting considered as food, could be purely sentimental reasons - doesn't really matter). But this doesn't undermine the basic argument: eating another animal doesn't inherently mean that you elevate yourself above it. It doesn't inherently mean that you don't give a feck about its status as a fellow being in the universe.
To me, simply assuming that eating meat equals an anthropocentric world view is a fallacy.
Clearly not. Someone needs to take that plastic staff badge off you as you seem to struggle to comment without yet again offering personal insults. You should be banned alone for using supercilious in any response and I’m not sure how stating I own a pet makes my appear superior, like said I didn’t say I know better than anyone else or my view was better informed either.
Unreal what this thread’s become.
I think you're confusing observations with insults.
I think observations can be insulting. I thought staff on here was to ensure that conversations don't get personal, not them making them so. You absolutely offer nothing than making comments that you can’t substantiate and when I‘ve asked you to ‘cut and paste‘ where I’ve said it, you respond with insults or an attempt to be ’clever’ with ridiculous words. Sad really and other members have been suspended for less? Maybe that plastic staff badge has it’s benefits?
Let’s leave it there, I’ve got dogs to walk….Oh, not suggesting I’m the only one who walks dogs or I’m the best dog walker on the forum.
Boris Johnson's sister is defending Zouma it seems.
Even the animal rights activists are pointing out the hypocrisy of the moral grandstanders that have been piling on Zouma.
Jaysus, the passive aggression. He just wanted to know who you were referring to as Eddy. I didn't get it either 'til it clicked !
Wonder how long it takes this thread to die and people to move onto the next thing.
Points in the video reminded me of the firefighters who rescued some pigs and sows from a barn that had caught fire. Only for the farmer to eventually slaughter the pigs and turn them into sausages, which the farmer then gifted back to the firefighters as a thank you for rescuing the pigs.
"We tell no porkies, the sausages were fantastic".. said one of the water pistol carrying heroes.
If the firefighters had made no attempt to rescue those animals that day it would have been viewed by many as immoral.
Yet saving the animals lives, just so the farmer can send them away to be slaughtered in a gas chamber caused no fuss. If anything, it gained a positive reaction.
Is this a true story?
I’ve heard the story before
Right, so, I have a couple of questions.
1. Has a mod ever banned themselves before?
2. Can a mod actually ban themselves?
Asking for a friend of a friend.
I haven't actually tested whether I can ban myself, but I'm pretty sure mods can ban themselves...then have to beg an admin to undo it for them.
Whether one has actually tried this I'm not sure. It seems feasible that one has at least temped tried to temp themselves out to test it.
Few chants from Newcastle fans and nothing from WH fans. All is forgotten and forgiven. It was just a cat i guess....
How much more is enough? Castration or death by fire squad?
An eye for an eye would do
Much more? He got small (for his standards) fine from the club, few "boos" by oppo fans and that is it. As i said; all this (including your comment) shows how our society works. "It was just one misguided kick"
How time flies, cnut even is becoming a victim.
In a perfect world, but most would probably settle for prosecution, lifetime ban from owning animals and a suitable donation to animal charities.
what were you expecting?
Wouldn't mind him getting drop kicked. I actually think that should be an option. If you assault your pet or torture them then a person can come round and jump you in.
2 of those have been done most likely. What type of sentence?
Reports coming through that West Ham complained to the ref at half time after Chris Wood repeatedly shouted "Meow" at Zouma.
Let him go a few rounds with a hungry cat. A much larger cat.
That's for the courts to decide, but the law sadly doesn't take animal cruelty very seriously, so my expectations are low.
Puny fines don't hurt multimillionaire footballers, so at least get them doing some community work.
I like the Scandinavian model where fines are assessed as a proportion of your income. A flat fee doesn't do much to deter, I agree.
Yep definitely, like the six figure speeding fines they give out to dicks in Ferraris now and then.
I was hoping that at least sponsors will be pressured by people to punish (cancel deals) WH after disgusting WH reaction regarding all this. But i guess their sponsors are not that strong. Money talks at end, right?
Anyway, Zouma will not be punished by the law, FA said that it is not on them to punish him, WH will not punish him and public even more and more treats him like some kind of victim (as this thread shows too). Amazing stuff. feck this society where we live.
Anyway, Zouma will not be punished by the law, FA said that it is not on them to punish him, WH will not punish him and public even more and more treats him like some kind of victim (as this thread shows too). Amazing stuff. feck this society where we live.
Well this should have been over with a long time ago then...
The cat wasn't hurt physically so there you go - that's your eye (nothing ) for an eye (nothing).
I seen this online and I seriously hope it’s true.
There's one thing understanding a person's attachment, but there's another thing facing reality and facts. Just because people overly love their animals, that doesn't mean they should be given as much importance as a child.
Good on you Chris Wood
The amount of affection and love an individual gives to their pet is their reality and it isn't really your place to decide anything for them. If you're talking about children vs pets from a societal point of view of course I understand giving children far more importance but I don't personally agree with it.
I like Chris Wood much more now than i did a couple of hours ago
My thoughts exactly. The same how WH is my most hated club in the world