And one league title to show for it. Same as Ranieri at Leicester.
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We're up against financial dopers and one of the best managers ever. It's hard to be too disappointed with Klopp's effort. We were nowhere when he came in.
United took on a Chelsea side that was the equivalent of City today. That didn't stop us from winning three league titles in succession and beating them in the CL. Money isn't everything.
You can't argue the facts; Klopp has won a single league title in 8 years. Nothing special when all is said and done.
We were City though. Dont compare Liverpool to us, maybe Arsenal but they certainly arent Utd. Compare them to Wenger or similar bridesmaids.
What if he adds a second European cup to that. Eight years, one league title, two CL's, an FA Cup and a League Cup is a decent haul for a club that hasn't been swimming in trophies since the early 90's.
Not at all. We were brilliant but not good enough. You don't win trophies for making excuses. Klopp is here until 2026 and if it's still just one PL then he's he's been good but not great.
Ferguson didn't face 'that' Barca side from 1994 to 2007. He only won one CL. One in 13 years. That's a huge fail. Same with Klopp if he doesn't win at least one more PL in the next four years. It will be a big fail.
The CL is a great trophy to win, no doubt about it, but it will never match up to a domestic title due to the nature of knockout competitions.
The league is where it's at. You know it and I know it.
Delighted that they didn't win the league, though it would have been funnier if both City and Liverpool would have lost today with Liverpool having time to reflect on what could have been.
Now Real just need to shithouse their way to another CL with the aid of one of their UEFA referees
Now Real just need to shithouse their way to another CL with the aid of one of their UEFA referees
Come on Madrid
Insulting the boards
I mean while we're one the top trophy winners in English history, we are ofcourse behind yourselves. Winning things doesn't make you have a better opinion on football, especially as 90% of your fanbase signed up for success because of the Fergie glory years. Glory supporting doesn't make you a footballing expert.
I don't disagree but I'm talking about Klopp. If he wins it in Paris that's two European Cups in eight seasons at Liverpool with a league title and two cups thrown in. It's not a bad effort.
Winning it next week puts us as second best European team ever (joint with Milan). With 4 more years to go I'm hoping Klopp can make second our's alone.
Domestic is bread and butter no doubt, but nothing beats cream pies and champagne.
We were hindered by the ‘three foreigner rule’ in the early stages so couldn’t play a number of our best players. It also included Irish and Welsh.
Fergie won two CLs and lost two finals. It should have been more yes but he won an awful lot to go with that and is still arguably the greatest manager to grace the game.
The difference being United were stockpiling players before Abrahmovic came on the scene. Rooney was a bigger percentage of club revenue than Pogba was and I think Rio was also a bigger percentage of club revenue (without looking at the figures).
City under Pep are also a more formidable dance partner than Chelsea who changed their manager every year or 2
We were also hindered by English clubs being cut adrift from the European game for so long. We got some tactical batterings from vastly inferior sides in the first few campaigns.
These are nothing but excuses. I don't want to get banned so we'll end the conversation now (I know I started it but it was in response and I was trying to make a point).
Klopp has 4 more seasons. If Newcastle, Qatar-Leeds, Sportwash FC, prevent Klopp from another league title then it's just excuses. You get nothing for finishing second in the league or CL except a negative mark against your name.
Remind me where you’re from and how many Arsenal games you go to? And when you started supporting them?
Barking up the wrong tree here but I’ll see how it plays out…
You'll have to overcome a Real side that has fought tooth and nail to make this final. Good luck with that.Winning it next week puts us as second best European team ever (joint with Milan). With 4 more years to go I'm hoping Klopp can make second our's alone.
Domestic is bread and butter no doubt, but nothing beats cream pies and champagne.
You lot are already well in front of us in terms of CL titles. One more won't make much difference all things considered.
As soon as that rule went SAF reached 4 finals in 12 years and many semi finals. His European record is stupidly underplayed when analysed correctly
Klopp is a super manager. Coming second to City is tough shit, like Fergie coming second to Pep's Barca. He needs to find a way to win more leagues.
This is a good point. Heysel had quite a negative impact on English football
They are just facts? Not sure why you’re getting worked up
Klopp has obviously done a good job there, the delusions from Merseyside is just their own downfall. When the fans and the whole national media are using words like the greatest team ever and all the other insane hyperbole printed the last few years that is what you will be judged on. Liverpool under Klopp still haven't done anything exceptional that hasn't been done before them. And they have also failed to match the exceptional stuff other teams have achieved. Stopped on 99 points after City got 100 the year before, couldn't win back-to-back titles, still haven't added another league, failed in the league to make a domestic treble unlike City, failed in the league to make it a "proper" treble like United already did. Failed to win the league and CL in the same season to remove all doubts about superiority twice now, which United did twice.
You can't be spoken about as one of the greatest teams in history when other teams have done both more and more impressive feats than you in recent history. Liverpool are a bloody good team, but that is all they are at the moment
You can't be spoken about as one of the greatest teams in history when other teams have done both more and more impressive feats than you in recent history. Liverpool are a bloody good team, but that is all they are at the moment
Pep is the devil though seriously.
If it weren't for his outrageous Barca team we would have won more European Cups ourselves. Feck Pep.
If it weren't for his outrageous Barca team we would have won more European Cups ourselves. Feck Pep.
I think we’d have won another CL had we not had the rule myself too but @Dumbstar doesn’t want excuses
Can you honestly say you'd be content if Klopp ended his tenure with only a single league title to his name?
Stop, Chelsea were as bad. Talk about excuses.
Not as nailed on as the ones Pep stopped us winning IMO.
And no Klopp honorary knighthood remember.
People want @Klopper76 and @Dumbstar banned, at least they don't write shite like that. Actually I probably never seen anyone of the more serious Liverpool fans write that type of crap.
Massive congratulations to all Liverpool fans for the achievement of three 90+ finishes in 5 seasons.
Whats wrong with @Klopper76? He usually comes across well?
Was really hoping for Manchester City to bottle their game and Liverpool to take advantage. They were very close and I'm not sure if this will bring their morale down for the final against us but the reality is that despite a really good season for them the most important trophys are the league and winning the UCL and if they lose both then suddenly the season won't feel as good.
Those two are defo not getting banned. This gooner is new to me.
Facts, eh?
That is how I would love at it. If you backing up the league 90+ points with league win and champs league then it would prove the point. But just hitting the high total and winning no champs league defeats the point about standard. Can't be one or the other.
We literally had to play everyone the time when we won the treble, premier League wasn't even the strongest at the time in Europe. The euro top leagues where churning out champions in euro around that time too, far more stacked. The 79 points doesn't even hold up once you look at it all
I'm no mod but I think part of signing up to a rival forum is you have to be respectful that's at least the bear minimum. Writing that type of rubbish that @ThierryFabregas did is pathetic and so cringe it's ban worthy.
Oh yeah we massively failed in Europe, think back to Dortmund in 97 Porto in 04 (Scholesy onside) & Bayern in 10
Also, they won the Champions league at a time when we were blazing a (post Heysel Ban) trail, the other English clubs, kept getting knocked out early. Wenger’s team, at that time, went out in the group stage like clockwork- while we got to the later stages regularly.Well, they certainly beat the Invincibles as 3 trophies beat that team's one but it's nowhere near as good as our treble and how we achieved it:
United beat Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal on route to the FA cup win
United were unbeaten in the entire Champions league campaign against the likes Barca, Bayern, Juve, Inter
United beat Arsenal's double winners to the league, a side Neville, Scholes and Giggs called the best side they ever faced domestically
Easily the greatest achievement by an English team
I mean it’s one more than Rodgers, Dalglish, Hodgson, Benitez, Houllier, Evans & Souness.
You aren't making any sense what you are saying, you can't argue any other way they ain't doing the proper treble never mind the proper double.
I won't be sitting in 20 years time going I don't like this, Liverpool hit 91 points and came 2nd, and we only got 79 but won the treble, and then think of all the times they got more points but we won the leagues with lower and points and be thinking I don't like this.......your trolling is really poor