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Typo (on phone)are they?
Typo (on phone)are they?
He obviously doesn't like big personalities in the dressing room - its why he ended up falling out with Van Persie.Another criticism that falls at his door is the lack of leaders.
He's had 2 summers and the only genuine leaders we have our BFS (who is currently struggling himself) and probably Chris Smalling.
Ferguson used to have multiple big personalities in the squad. This is very different.
Rooney and Carrick aren't leaders of men. Who else is there?
I don't think LVG is against big personalities or leaders, as he obviously made Rooney ours. The problem that i see, is that he appears quite one dimensional in his thinking, so if he doesn't think someone fits with what he wants to do, then he just wants them out, dismissing any notion that they could still play an important part. It seems they have to contribute the way he wants them too, or not at all.He obviously doesn't like big personalities in the dressing room - its why he ended up falling out with Van Persie.
Similar when Martial first arrived and scored them goals looking deadly, then moved to the wing. When questioned on this LVG replied he isnt interested in individuals and thinks for the benefit of the team. Yet these individuals are the ones who win managers games. things like being OCD on having left footed centre halves look nice and balanced on paper but common sense always prevails, which his management style appears to lack. its like he manages on calculation than logicHernandez is a great example, LVG didn't believe he could play in his system, and so he got rid, completely disregarding his previous goal-scoring exploits for Utd, and what he has proven he can regularly contribute as a goal threat coming off the bench.
It baffles me still, -considering how short we are for goals and goalscorers- to fathom why Chica could not have contributed yet again this season, simply by doing what he has done for us so many times before. LVG has inexplicably traded a situation where we could have kept a proven impact substitute and goalscorer, -who would also endure being a sub- for a situation where we have absolutely no striker options whatsoever on the bench. Just how could that possibly be a preferable scenario in LVG's mind? What possible logic concludes that having less striking options is somehow deemed advantageous enough to outweigh the obvious benefits of a proven goalscorer/impact sub at our disposal all season, for absolutely no outlay.
It just makes no sense to me, yet it is this bizarre thinking that has contributed greatly to the situation we now find ourselves in. Already out of the CL, and still struggling for inspiration, goals and confidence domestically.
If Hernandez was here he would struggle, that Sums up VGSimilar when Martial first arrived and scored them goals looking deadly, then moved to the wing. When questioned on this LVG replied he isnt interested in individuals and thinks for the benefit of the team. Yet these individuals are the ones who win managers games. things like being OCD on having left footed centre halves look nice and balanced on paper but common sense always prevails, which his management style appears to lack. its like he manages on calculation than logic
Tactics and philosophy. It's that simple. Zero pace on the passes. Zero supporting runs made to draw defenders off. Zero runs made into channels or into space behind defenders. Movement off the ball is slow. It's a combination of all these.Seriously though guys, what the feck is he doing that makes the offensive players underperform?
Said that a few weeks back.As someone said last night...
Honestly think this is the beginning of the end. He'll get to the end of the season but I think he'll be asked to retire early. I think he's losing the dressing room.
Bit poor to think it's going to happen to two managers in a row. Next one had better have real balls, as opposed to Giggs just being 'pals' with them.
The way we're set up just doesn't seem to suit many of our attacking players, does it?Seriously though guys, what the feck is he doing that makes the offensive players underperform?
Well I'm glad that penny finally dropped.Recorded the game, just got done with it. Can't fecking believe we lost at home to Norwich; particularly after a great first twenty minutes. He seems to have taken all the criticism about playing style to heart and decided to sacrifice all defensive stability in search of goals. I'd rather we continued keeping it tight at the back and boring teams into submission.
Is anyone on this forum actually saying that though?Let that sink in, and then tell me he's doing a good job.
Some actually were until very recentlyIs anyone on this forum actually saying that though?
expecting vast majority to flock to option 1 now. (I did, from undecided between 2 and 3)Vote change allowed, go for it.
The most positive people I have heard say give him until the end of the season. haven't heard a single person say give him his final year. So, pretty much no one has faith in him...its just more about when to show him the door. I doubt the board is any different. That being said, our club and our board seem incompetent so...
But why though? It's completely and utterly stupid. I really don't get why our club is so fecking passive about everything and our fans our satisfied about it.The most positive people I have heard say give him until the end of the season. haven't heard a single person say give him his final year. So, pretty much no one has faith in him...its just more about when to show him the door. I doubt the board is any different. That being said, our club and our board seem incompetent so...
Up until recently most people wanted to give him till the end of the season at least.Is anyone on this forum actually saying that though?