I see your viewpoint but I still disagree, so lets see how it plays out this season. For context:
You just answered the problem yourself...
We play possession football, some players aren't suited to such a system. You don't see that then that's your issue. I didn't say he was good enough for United, not sure where you got them from? Ibra wasn't a poor player as he failed at Barca, he didn't suit their system. Veron wasn't a bad player when he joined United, ditto Kagawa, etc, etc, etc (not saying Jesse is anywhere near as good as any of those players by the way). Players work differently at different clubs, there are many variables between success and failure.
Ffs
if that’s your argument for a Fred > Fabinho debate let’s just end our discussion here and go about our day,Yep he can step in when Fred or Scotty are needing a break
Stop saying positive things about Liverpool players, there might be kids reading thisFfs
You put Fabinho behind Pogba & Bruno and you have the best midfield in world football, you put Fred behind Bruno & Pogba and you still need to add McTominay and you’re still far off from a functional Midfield
I think Fred is a better player than McTominay. If we brought in someone like Camavinga I'd be pairing him with Fred to start off with. It'll be McTominay dropping to the bench for any midfielder we bring in.
41 is when you include add ons
Dropping points against teams you should should beat clearly derails any title challenge, but if you assume that whoever's top (City, I suspect) are unlikely to drop those points, games against the top six are just as vital. Winning the games you should puts you in the mix, not 15-20 points behind the leaders. Taking points from the top sides might be what gets you over the line.
No because you don't know what you're talking about and it's a waste of my time.
Says the one that thinks "Lingard is a good international footballer"
We will not start McFred against Burnley .. that was my whole argument. Pogba will start these games and
Kleberson was Brazil's main CM when winning WC.
It's common knowledge, he's good and he plays international football.Says the one that thinks "Lingard is a good international footballer"
I think people misunderstand what Lingard brings. His running and shooting are his best attributes. That’s what West Ham got out of him. He isn’t a provider and that’s also fine.
Big 6 results ebb and flow. I’m fairly sure we were top or 2nd best against the big 6 two seasons ago. Everyone was lauding Ole for winning home and away against City or whatever or was that last season?
Also, 6 point swings. If you finish 6pts behind the winners and you lost both games to them then only one win for makes it level on points.
Bissouma or Ndidi was the main shout at hte beginning of the summer as the most reasonable holding mids we should be targeting
Kleberson was a very good player, but SAF’s tactics and formation were different.
So you forgot a comma? ("good international footballer")
His career after United said otherwise.
The Glazers have money to throw around - just like the City owners but they won't.
I wouldn't really say we play a game that's particularly based around keeping the ball. Sure, we played that way under Van Gaal but under Ole we've looked to hit on the break quite a bit which is why we've been known to struggle against sides that sit back and defend. I'd say that teams like City play possession football but I wouldn't say that's our MO. Sure, we often have the lion's share of the ball but that's because we're usually, man for man, better than the opposition.
I honestly don’t get posts like these. Twitter and this forum is full of them. We spend fecking fortunes - we don’t spend just enough to keep our nose above water at all - we’ve spent the second most on the planet the last 8 years - only beaten by a gulf oil state. We’re prepared to let Pogba who cost 90m quid walk on a free rather than take a 50m fee for him. We spent 80m on a sodding CB. We’ve just spent 110m following a pandemic season with no training sponsor and we are refusing to sell Martial, James and Lingard. Our issues have feck all to do with spending - our issues are we’ve been incompetent on what we spend it on. Until Ole oddly enough. Who some muppets want sacked. The Glazers are cnuts BUT we still spend. Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive.
This is the issue I have with him though...is he a defensive attacking midfielder, useful for his pressing? Because his goals stats don't back up the idea of him as a particularly good finisher. I also can't forget the amount of time he's spent hiding and, as soon as he gets the ball, popping it off to the nearest person like he's terrified.
That is what is forgotten about McFred, they have often done well in the big games. But you dont win titls just doing well in big games and its many other games outside of these they simply havent been good enoughor even suitable for
Funny nobody seems to be mentioning Bissouma as a signing for almost any of the big sides now, 3months without exposure and shiny new toys. Not THE signing for me, but he wasnt 3months ago either, but certainly one of the viable options, or he hsould be for several sides
Bissouma has always struck me as an all action Fred type rather than a 6. It is weird he hasn’t gone anywhere though - felt he was perfect for Liverpool.
Cama wenger? Wengers bed?
You don't get close to the best in the world.Ffs
You put Fabinho behind Pogba & Bruno and you have the best midfield in world football, you put Fred behind Bruno & Pogba and you still need to add McTominay and you’re still far off from a functional Midfield
This is a new one on me Kleberson was shit because of SAF
