This is the fundamentals of a players contract. Nearly all transfers have player compensation built into it, unless the player is out of contract, the difference here is that Maguire and the club can't agree on a figure.
Maguire | he stays!
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I’m not on nearly 200k a week. Would I want to sit around in a club that doesn’t want me for another few years with toxicity brewing and not playing football…pretty 100% certain I wouldn’t.
Him moving to west ham won’t get him a spot at the Euros. He’s awful, and everyone can see it.
If we paid CR7 I'm sure we can pay Maguire too.
Yeah one is cr7 and the other is Maguire so the club is also playing hardball with him
It IS his though. He’s entitled to it even if he never plays.
I don't agree with your figures at all. He will only be 32 when he exits his United contract. CBs are often still close to their prime at that age, especially those with good injury records like Maguire. He is a meme and out of form but still commands 100k at 30. I don't see him dropping by 80% in 2 years, and even if that happens he will likely end up ahead financially than by leaving millions on the table.
He is making the right decision in my opinion (pressing United to pay the difference).
He's not going to do that though. He'll get a huge payoff. Might not be the full sum but will be millions.
I hope we're not run by people that hold grudges like that on a discarded asset but guess we are?
very much disagree. Southgate loves him and just wants any desperate reason to play him. He trusts him at CB for england so starting weekly for west ham will def get him a spot at the euros.
Shit i wouldnt be surprised if he gets a spot at the euros even if he languishes on our bench all year
He’s owed the money for the remainder of his contract I mean, I’m not saying that if he’s sold, and agrees to he sold he’s still owed it. But as it stands, as a Utd player and is entitled to say he expects to be paid the agreed amount, whether that’s all coming from Utd, or some from West Ham with Utd making up the difference.
I'm sure we've subsidised quite a few deals recently. We do so even when we loan players who end up not playing (Martial, probably Donny too). I don't get why he isn't paid off to leave. The reality of the situation is he won't be banished to the reserves, we'll be forced to play him because Varane is fragile and Lindelof as well with his back, so we're going to need the fourth centre back. A Shaw-Martinez combo will make our already physically inferior side weaker during set pieces.
Surely we have to get this over the line asap and get in another centre back sharpish.
Surely we have to get this over the line asap and get in another centre back sharpish.
Yeah but you'd surely play hardball a little bit to get a few million in your sky rocket if your agent told you he'd get it for you wouldn't you?
Thing is the deal isn't dead yet. I think it still gets done and we get Pavard in.
I'm sure I read a few tweets saying United were giving him 6 million.
So it's not a case of posting "United should pay him!" you are basically saying "United should pay him more than £6 million"
I think a 6 million bonus as you walk out the door is fair tbh.
So it's not a case of posting "United should pay him!" you are basically saying "United should pay him more than £6 million"
I think a 6 million bonus as you walk out the door is fair tbh.
Exactly.
Any agent/financial advisor that goes, "yeah you should move on if you have any sense of personal responsibility" (
) should be stripped of their professional license and ability to advise players.Giant turd that just won't flush.
Pay him.
Pay that man his money.
Pay that man his money.
At least he would have a chance. As our 5th, no freaking way. (agree with you that his play for WH would probably keep him out too)
i mean should the agent not be advising him on his overall career as well? If maguire sits on our bench/reserves and southgate actually has the balls to drop him is the death of his england career worth the extra couple of million? Not sure if being on the team for euros would open up any extra endorsement money or anything, assuming it is prob different than would be over here in USA. I would hope the agent would show him that he is still going to be making a good amount of money to play a game, and that if he loses out on one of the last years on his career a the top level he will regret it. Idk.Exactly.
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Yes he’s entitled to stay and get paid. He’s not entitled to future earnings. We want to get rid that is much clear.
so he has two options:
1. He stays and picks up his pay check. Most likely he loses his England spot. Loses his all sort of form and his next contract after two years becomes a huge question mark.
2. he takes a pay cut but gets regular playing time. Might keep his place on the national team. Barring injuries he will get much better contract offer after 2 years.
taking option 2 with the benefits from option 1 is cnutish thing to do.
How many cases of pro footballers are there that are similar to Bogarde and similar to flops taking pay cuts to play regularly on another team ?
In the real world you would be sacked/let go when you are unable to perform the job that you were employed to do.
Thing is he will get a nice signing on fee from next club anyway, I understand the perceived entitlement of the rest of the contract but his PR is really doing him no favours whatsoever.
Thing is he will get a nice signing on fee from next club anyway, I understand the perceived entitlement of the rest of the contract but his PR is really doing him no favours whatsoever.
Agreed. Its a slow burn of a transfer. Like you said, this will get done soon.
So if Maguire is sidelined for 2 years, not playing competitive football, with questionable physical attributes at 30, let alone at 32 he’ll command 80k per week? Only in dreamworld.
we see players completely out of form for 2 months during summer break, let alone 2 years..
Jesus wept, take a hint man. Quite literally nobody wants you at this club.
I pray this is just his agent briefing the media to put pressure on us to agree a better settlement.
I pray this is just his agent briefing the media to put pressure on us to agree a better settlement.
We did not pay CR7
He’s entitled to what he wants. It’s a shame that his England place won’t be in much jeopardy and he knows it. Southgate is all talk and quite conservative, he will still probably pick Jordan Henderson too despite him moving to Saudi.
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Not if he’s serving another contract at another club.
Realistically this Euros is his last tournament anyway, and he's still got a reasonable chance of making the squad even if he's spent the season playing backup for us.
He's also still likely to command a reasonably high wage leaving us on a free at the end of his contract. The difference is he'll have spent two years on a much higher wage, will possibly be due some form of loyalty payout from us, and could demand a decent signing on fee from the new club.
It'd be terrible advice to tell him to just go.
That said, if he's not managed to convince EtH to play him, I think he's likely to go next summer, if not in January.
Best summation of this saga
Can we boo him yet?
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This is because of those EtH quotes. Just so bad
Yeah the ETH comments this week were abit weird and suggested or at least led the player to believe he should stay and fight for his place if he were a real man! Backfired spectacularly
Slabhead is persona non grata now then. Move fell through because he sees West Ham as beneath him.
Deserves all the boos and ire that’s going to come his way, while he warms the bench all season and loses his England place.
ETH can also take a chunk of blame for not making it clear to him that he’s not getting a kick this season.
Deserves all the boos and ire that’s going to come his way, while he warms the bench all season and loses his England place.
ETH can also take a chunk of blame for not making it clear to him that he’s not getting a kick this season.
He started 8 league games last season and that's with him being ahead of Lindelof at the start of the season.
Any notion that he wants to challenge for his place is nonsense. He knows he won't play but is happy to sit on the contract instead of going out to play games.
Any notion that he wants to challenge for his place is nonsense. He knows he won't play but is happy to sit on the contract instead of going out to play games.
The noises about not having enough time is the sort of classic bollocks we’ve not had to deal with this summer. What a load of shit.
Unfortunately for him, I can’t see him being treated very well after this.