Good post. It’s about time some people realised that you can’t but every promising CB or any position for thst matter, in the hope they become WC You would end up with 20 CB’s.
Just insofar as he offers something very different to Bailly, whereas the rest of our defenders (Smalling aside) are quite similar.
What does this have to do with anything. So how come we suddenly want him now, because he's at Leicester? We could have gotten him for cheap when we still didn't have Bailly or Lindelof. Right now he's at the most expensive he'll ever be in his life, after a world cup, we want him. It's really disturbing how poorly run we are on this front
Would be nice to be looking to sign someone significantly better not just different though.
lets remember what "your brave lions have won" and what Mr Maguire has really achieved apart from a decent season at a mid table club ,
Yeah not a problem as it’s already been sorted
I see that he mentioned foreign clubs but it's the FFP by the FA, right?
the FA doesn't have an FFP, the Premier League have one and the Football League have one, we had to pay between £3-4m to the Football League last summer
Thanks, I was thinking about the Football League.
And on the final day of the window Woody and Jose addressed the crowd of bellowing muppets and declared “Here be your saviour, and his name is Willian!!”
Would love nothing more than this, fingers crossed.
I think it's the opposite, Toby is the smokescreen for Maguire
Only time will tell I guess! I just think Jose would want the finished product in Toby a lot more.
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in Chelsea's clothing"
Except for the last 2 CBs that he bought? 3rd time lucky?
If I remember right, Maguire was brought into the Hull team half way through the season when Marco Silva came in and Hull were decent under him.
Bailly is good and can become great. So you're down to "except his last CB".
Not on his showing last year, he has potential for sure but he couldn't force Jones or Smalling out of a starting place
I think you're too focused on criticizing the way things are done. My point is, United and other big clubs often wait for a player to show the same level of performances at another , better club before deciding to sign. Sometime a great WC or Euro tournament hastens that. But what you're picking at isn't fair.
Yeah its just more common for us in the domestic market, particularly if the players already in his mid twenties, to sign from a bigger club where the player has been able to handle stepping up.
Yep you’re spot on. It’s based on people’s own almost aesthetic criteria rather than anything football related.
Jones is a very good defender, what keeps him back is his injuries (duh-uh. Both in terms of development and consistency, you get so much from playing all the time - and likewise you lose so much energy by being injured. I’d say Maguire will never be as good as Jones, but like with many others, injuries ruin everything, including reputations.
Harsh. At the same time you can find valuable information and differences due to playing styles. It’s much easier to look awesome for a lesser team that likes to sit deep, Lindelof would look immense for Leicester probably. Same for a goalkeeper, just standing there and making saves, nobody cares if you let one in. For United, with a higher block and greater pressure, let’s see if heavy Maguire can cope.... I highly doubt it.
Forget the price for a second does anyone think Maguire is one of the elite CBs in the World?
Tongue AND cheek
Not yet. But do we have to buy only the elite finished articles? Nope, we don't. Recently, when we've shopped in that category it's hardly been a recipe for success either.
Like someone said, it isn’t too dissimilar to buying Bruce in 87 and then Pallister for big money in 89. It took along time of mediocrity to find the keys, but when Bruce and Pallister started gelling, noone questioned the outlay. Of course, you could say, why didn’t United just buy Pallister in 87, or another more experienced player like him for all those money? But the truth is, this processes are far from exact science.
