Man United is the highest net spending club in the world over the last 10 years.

[UnofficialDevil]

A 10-year report from the CIES Football Observatory report on the highest net-spending clubs in the world since 2014 shows Premier League net spending compared to some of the European giants


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Highest net spending (2014-2023)
1. Manchester United - £1,196.6m	11. Aston Villa - £414.3m
2. Chelsea - £885.5m	12. Liverpool - £395.3m
3. Paris St-Germain - £865.8m	13. Al-Hilal - £391.3m
4. Arsenal - £746.9m	14. Juventus - £385m
5. Manchester City - £733.8m	15. Everton - £336.1m
6. Newcastle United - £575.2m	16. Crystal Palace - £322.3m
7. Barcelona - £568.4m	17. Bournemouth - £294.9m
8. Tottenham - £522.1m	18. Bayern Munich - £294.1m
9. AC Milan - £467.3m	19. Real Madrid - £277.6m
10. West Ham - £451.9m	20. Nottingham Forest - £265.8m

Also
Premier League clubs' £1bn of losses in 11 charts

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68713522.amp

 

[paulscholes18]

Just goes to show how bad we are a negotiating incomings and outgoings, hopefully this improves with Berrada and potentially Ashworth coming in.

 

[clarkydaz]

Thanks Ed

 

[eire-red]

Surprised to see Arsenal 4th. And it's absolutely bonkers to see Everton, Bournemouth and Palacd above Real Madrid and Bayern.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Net spend is a pretty bad financial metric to use, as it only captures a portion of player spending and doesn't tell the full story. But still, disastrous ROI overall for us - very embarrassing how poorly we've been run.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

 

[Reiver]

Top of the league

 

[MiceOnMeth]

Okay and how many world class players did city accumulate while we were signing the likes of Michael Owen and Obertan

 

[Fortitude]

Anyone who doesn't think City top this by an absolute mile is the perfect candidate for all the dross being served up to cover for them.

Them aside, it's still appalling reading for us, especially so with how dire our squad has been for the vast majority of that time.

 

[Eric_the_Red99]

I have no doubt that we’ve been absolutely awful in the transfer market but that figure for Man City (and maybe some other clubs on that list too) is a complete work of fiction.

 

[Dannn411]

If we aren't already, we will very soon be a business school case on how not to succession plan and how not to run a football club.

 

[NewGlory]

Just goes to show how bad we are a negotiating incomings and outgoings, hopefully this improves with Berrada and potentially Ashworth coming in.

Yeap, all that those numbers mean is that

1. We suck at selling our players
2. We overpay when buying
3. We pay stupid salaries to average and outright shit players

"Checking my notes from following this team every day and watching every game, for the past several decades..." Yeap, that is exactly what we have been doing since Glazers came in

 

[Waynne]

Thanks Ed

He's gone now but everytime I look at our situation and how much we've pissed up the wall and where we are now as a football team, his punchable face flashes before my eyes and I go into a rage mode where I just want to put my fist through something.

 

[Ali Dia]

He's gone now but everytime I look at our situation and how much we've pissed up the wall and where we are now as a football team, his punchable face flashes before my eyes and I go into a rage mode where I just want to put my fist through something.

Calm down Wazza! He always just wanted to be loved by you and us




https://www.givemesport.com/1512540...woodward-calling-him-wazza-in-a-text-message/

 

[Dazzmondo]

Real behind Bournemouth, Palace, Everton and West Ham. Frustratingly well-run club

 

[Jippy]

Net spend is a pretty bad financial metric to use, as it only captures a portion of player spending and doesn't tell the full story. But still, disastrous ROI overall for us - very embarrassing how poorly we've been run.

It can mask the level of spending, but it also underlines how poor United are at recouping fees for players we sell on.
Even Chelsea regularly pick up massive fees for players they move on earlier, rather than keep them on their book til they're 32.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

This is embarrassing especially we are still playing negative football with zero world class player.

BM and Real are best in class in term of how a football club should be run.

We have blown a budget that could build us a new world class stadium.

 

[Jippy]

We know we were desperate and got fleeced on Antony by Ajax, messed up the release clause on Fellaini and paid absolute top dollar for many players. But I'll never understand why we doubled or tripled Sancho's salary to supposedly £300k+ when we were the only ones seriously in for him that summer.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

We know we were desperate and got fleeced on Antony by Ajax, messed up the release clause on Fellaini and paid absolute top dollar for many players. But I'll never understand why we doubled or tripled Sancho's salary to supposedly £300k+ when we were the only ones seriously in for him that summer.

To be fair, Sancho was one of the best player in the world at that time. Every big club was interested but we blown everyone out of the race. We also managed to reduce the signing fees, Dortmund was asking for 120M a season before (prior COVID).

Everyone was supportive of the signing at that time because he was destined to be the best. Young, English, one of the world most exciting talent. Little did we know that Ole doesn't have a plan how to use him and he was not suitable for English game. He was also reported to have attitude problems and mental issues, etc.

On the other hand, Antony 100M was simply unbelievable, shocking and criminal.

 

[Cloud7]

Surprised to see Arsenal 4th. And it's absolutely bonkers to see Everton, Bournemouth and Palacd above Real Madrid and Bayern.

Because as a fanbase we are generally in the PL bubble, we lost sight of just how much money is spent by the other clubs in the league. The smaller clubs in the PL spend insane amounts of money relative to their counterparts in other leagues, with questionable return you would have to say.

 

[Cloud7]

The net spend argument, for me, more emphasizes how poor we are in selling players. We hold on to players who are clearly not up for it for far too long, and by the time we are ready to sell them, we struggle to get good fees for them, particularly with the wages involved. I agree with Berrada that the longest amount of time a player should be at the club without showing that they clearly belong here is two seasons. If by that time they don't make their worth to United clear, they should be sold.

 

[Semper Fudge]

We’ve won.

 

[Jev]

The net spend argument, for me, more emphasizes how poor we are in selling players. We hold on to players who are clearly not up for it for far too long, and by the time we are ready to sell them, we struggle to get good fees for them, particularly with the wages involved. I agree with Berrada that the longest amount of time a player should be at the club without showing that they clearly belong here is two seasons. If by that time they don't make their worth to United clear, they should be sold.

It’s both to be fair. We’re third in the world on transfer spend alone during the past decade.

 

[NickSantigo]

I wish they'd include how much each club spent on training facilities, stadiums, youth teams, women's teams, etc. too. Be interested to see where we are in the table then.

They always have this skewed view. Yes United have been shite at transfers but there are other areas outside of transfers our owners have under invested in especially compared to say City, Liverpool adn Spurs for example

 

[Skills]

"Back the manager"

 

[Ish]

Just goes to show how bad we are a negotiating incomings and outgoings, hopefully this improves with Berrada and potentially Ashworth coming in.

Woodwards clueless “Disneyland” legacy. Absolute scrote.

 

[Malons]

As fans we threw an absolute hissy-fit for the last decade every time we weren't splurging ridiculous money every transfer window. The second our net spend dipped or on the rare occasions we weren't throwing cash at someone there'd be close to literal hysteria.

Sorry but I think there's lessons for everyone here, us included. You can't scream blue murder and outrage when we're not spending money like it's going out of fashion for over 10 years and then turn around and cluck your tongue and bemoan how much money we've spent. At least partially to blame for our reckless spending is surely fans who demanded it.

If we wasn't spending money like Elton John the anger was visceral. It was evidence we were broke. It was a sign there was too much debt. If we weren't the highest net spenders every year and by some distance there were murmurings of protests against the owners.

Sorry there's very few of us who can look back on the money we wasted and claim we didn't only celebrate every penny but angrily demand more be spent. The fact is as much as we want to pretend that we look back and wince, at the time the majority of us were absolutely furious we didn't spend more.

 

[Jippy]

To be fair, Sancho was one of the best player in the world at that time. Every big club was interested but we blown everyone out of the race. We also managed to reduce the signing fees, Dortmund was asking for 120M a season before (prior COVID).

Everyone was supportive of the signing at that time because he was destined to be the best. Young, English, one of the world most exciting talent. Little did we know that Ole doesn't have a plan how to use him and he was not suitable for English game. He was also reported to have attitude problems and mental issues, etc.

On the other hand, Antony 100M was simply unbelievable, shocking and criminal.

Yeah Sancho was an on paper a decent signing and was cheaper than the year before. Why we upped his salary by so much is a mystery though- around doubling it- we made him one of the club's top three earners, which was insane.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Shit at selling and shit at buying. No surprise.

Chelsea, who are good at selling, being second is more shocking.

 

[tomaldinho1]

I have no doubt that we’ve been absolutely awful in the transfer market but that figure for Man City (and maybe some other clubs on that list too) is a complete work of fiction.

City’s number is irrelevant. They could just they are £1b in profit and they could make it true just by changing the value of a sponsorship deal. It would be fascinating to know the scale of the losses they have incurred if you take away the state backed sponsors.

 

[Desert Eagle]

As fans we threw an absolute hissy-fit for the last decade every time we weren't splurging ridiculous money every transfer window. The second our net spend dipped or on the rare occasions we weren't throwing cash at someone there'd be close to literal hysteria.

Sorry but I think there's lessons for everyone here, us included. You can't scream blue murder and outrage when we're not spending money like it's going out of fashion for over 10 years and then turn around and cluck your tongue and bemoan how much money we've spent. At least partially to blame for our reckless spending is surely fans who demanded it.

If we wasn't spending money like Elton John the anger was visceral. It was evidence we were broke. It was a sign there was too much debt. If we weren't the highest net spenders every year and by some distance there were murmurings of protests against the owners.

Sorry there's very few of us who can look back on the money we wasted and claim we didn't only celebrate every penny but angrily demand more be spent. The fact is as much as we want to pretend that we look back and wince, at the time the majority of us were absolutely furious we didn't spend more.

Completely disagree. United fans have been asking the people in charge to spend smarter not more for pretty much a decade now. We will accept overpaying rather than nothing but obviously in an ideal world the people in charge are competent and don't waste money stupidly. Blaming the fans like they have any say on the transfer business of the club is delusional. They don't listen to the fans on this or anything else.

 

[izak]

The trouble is we've created this narrative that we don't sell players so clubs like Chealse or Tottenham don't even try, we should be open to selling players to all clubs even City and Liverpool shouldn't be blocked out of negotiations.

 

[Bobcat]

We know we were desperate and got fleeced on Antony by Ajax, messed up the release clause on Fellaini and paid absolute top dollar for many players. But I'll never understand why we doubled or tripled Sancho's salary to supposedly £300k+ when we were the only ones seriously in for him that summer.

We can point at shitty owners, bad transfers and clueless managers all day, but the fact is that our insane wage policy has caused the club immense harm over the past decade.

We have been handing out fat contracts to bench warmers, snakes and underperformers for way to long. Since 21/22, Martial has scored 9 goals and played a grand total of 1630 minutes in the PL for us, while taking home an anual salary of 13,000,000.

Hes been paid 30,000£ for each minute on the pitch those three years and each goal has cost the club 4,3 milion£ in wages. Of course no club in their right mind would want to match those absurd wages for a player like him, so hes happy to sit on his arse and get obscenely rich. We pay Martial more to rot on the bench, than Arsenal pay Ødegaard, who is their captain and plays every fecking game.

If it was just Martial it wouldn't be that much of an issue, but it feels like at least 1/3 of the squad earns way more than they should.

And how does Garnacho and Mainoo feel when players like Martial earn 5x as much as they do and contributing feck all? Well it means they deserve to earn at least as much as he does and the cycle continues

 

[Chumpsbechumps]

City’s number is irrelevant. They could just they are £1b in profit and they could make it true just by changing the value of a sponsorship deal. It would be fascinating to know the scale of the losses they have incurred if you take away the state backed sponsors.

Don’t forget Citys under the table payments. Mancini got millions for a few days training in the Middle East. The true cost of the city project will never Be known because nobody is interested in knowing. Would destroy any integrity left (if there is any) in the entire league.

 

[CoopersDream]

Brilliant. Too bad we didn't back our managers, we would have been so much better off.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

As fans we threw an absolute hissy-fit for the last decade every time we weren't splurging ridiculous money every transfer window. The second our net spend dipped or on the rare occasions we weren't throwing cash at someone there'd be close to literal hysteria.

Sorry but I think there's lessons for everyone here, us included. You can't scream blue murder and outrage when we're not spending money like it's going out of fashion for over 10 years and then turn around and cluck your tongue and bemoan how much money we've spent. At least partially to blame for our reckless spending is surely fans who demanded it.

If we wasn't spending money like Elton John the anger was visceral. It was evidence we were broke. It was a sign there was too much debt. If we weren't the highest net spenders every year and by some distance there were murmurings of protests against the owners.

Sorry there's very few of us who can look back on the money we wasted and claim we didn't only celebrate every penny but angrily demand more be spent. The fact is as much as we want to pretend that we look back and wince, at the time the majority of us were absolutely furious we didn't spend more.

No need to keep apologising. We’ll have to spend plenty to ever be successful / a top team again. It’s really about how well you’re spending than how much. Fans tend to be desperate for spending because poor management let to prior spending not making an impact or needing correction.

 

[fe33er]

To be fair, Sancho was one of the best player in the world at that time. Every big club was interested but we blown everyone out of the race. We also managed to reduce the signing fees, Dortmund was asking for 120M a season before (prior COVID).

Everyone was supportive of the signing at that time because he was destined to be the best. Young, English, one of the world most exciting talent. Little did we know that Ole doesn't have a plan how to use him and he was not suitable for English game. He was also reported to have attitude problems and mental issues, etc.

On the other hand, Antony 100M was simply unbelievable, shocking and criminal.

Ole barely got to work with Sancho. He was unfit when he arrived and Ole got sacked in November. So it’s a little unfair saying Ole was part of the blame.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

We buy old players for high fees and can’t sell them.

 

[Chumpsbechumps]

No need to keep apologising. We’ll have to spend plenty to ever be successful / a top team again. It’s really about how well you’re spending than how much. Fans tend to be desperate for spending because poor management let to prior spending not making an impact or needing correction.

I think a club that spends well, sells well and replaces players efficiently , will have a higher success rate with even average managers, over a clubs that’s the opposite with higher quality managers.

You look at city managers who have won the league, Leicester, Di Matteo/ Grant at Chelsea. A well run club doesn’t need a GOAT manager to succeed.

 

[horsechoker]

Worst football club of all time