Pure speculation.
His track record would suggest, if he is not regarded as a better manager than SAF right now, he will be in a few years. Barring some kind of fatal accident, or an early retirement, I find it difficult to make a case against Mourinho going down as the GOAT.
Nothing stopped John Terry from missing that penalty other than John Terry, if he had practised penalties more often he might not have been such a spaz and tripped over. Whereas Scholes was robbed of a goal he deserved by awful officiating, that is incredibly unlucky. Like I say I'm over it though.
So, one is a player making a mistake, the other, is a linesman......making a mistake.
Outstanding.
I have just stumbled in here but can I ask you something?
Coutinho was signed as a 16-17 y/o on the say of Inter's scouts by Marco Branca. Mourinho inherited that signing and ultimately never even worked with the player.
If Jose told Roman to get to feck and he was totally against Shevchenko signing, I'm pretty sure Roman would have put his wallet away.
Like a gangster from behind the iron curtain would ask what he was supposed to spend his money on from one of his employee's.
Actually Roman would have just sacked José if he said no, he also couldn't speak out against it for the exact same reason, trying to save his job.
Which is still absolute bullshit. I listed for you Joe Cole, John Obi Mikel and Drogba. I should also mention Stankovic who he didn't like when he first arrived at Inter, yet by the time he left Stankovic was getting regular game time under him. This idea that he gives up on players quick is a total myth.
Come on. Mourinho regularly used Obi Mikel even when everyone else thought he was a waste of time. Mourinho was one of his biggest fans. Quit trying to revise history.
You are so ignorant its untrue. I'm not the one under rating top manager. It is you. I understand the value of SAF than you will ever fathom. But it doesn't make me blind to the fact there is another manager out there who's record is just as impressive in his far shorter time in the game.
I wouldn't mind either of the two - Guardiola or Mourinho. We could argue Mourinho is more defensive minded whereas Guardiola is more attack minded. But no doubt both of them are world class.UNITED LINE UP GUARDIOLA AS FERGIE'S SUCCESSOR
Ok, the glaring issue with this piece of gossip is that it's delivered by The Daily Star, and Barcelona have recent beef with the newspaper, but the bombshell on their backpage is that 'Manchester United have sounded out Barcelona boss Pep Guardiola about making a sensational switch to Old Trafford.'
Told ya it was a bombshell.
Holding their nerve, the Star continues:
'United officials have made contact with Guardiola's agent to see if he would be interested in leaving the Spanish giants at the end of the season.
'And Starsport understands that Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has given the thumbs-up to his bosses that Guardiola is the ideal choice to replace him when he retires.
'Officials have spoken to the Spaniard's agent Josep Maria Orobitg, and have received encouraging signals that he would consider the shock move.'
One fact of note: Guardiola is only on a year-to-year contract with Barcelona.
One very big difference is that Mourinho has proved to be a success at every club he has been. However, I like the philosophy of Pep and really think that would fit in with United very well
Touchy little mare, aren't you?You are so ignorant its untrue. I'm not the one under rating top manager. It is you. I understand the value of SAF than you will ever fathom. But it doesn't make me blind to the fact there is another manager out there who's record is just as impressive in his far shorter time in the game.
You can also feck off with your notion that I want SAF to just make way for anyone.
Just because I rate SAF as better than Mourinho doesn't mean I'm belittling Jose or under-rating him. I've already praised him many times and said if it was up to me, he'd be SAF's successor.well... he won 2 EPL with a player he half wanted anyway.
That would explain his tactics in the Champions League Final of 2009, going toe-to-toe with Barcelona was never a good tactic, but if it had worked and we had won by a heavy margin, which was of course, a possibility, then he would have achieved that ambition. If we had gone out with more sensible tactics, tried to stifle the game, we would have had a better chance of winning, but a much lower chance of getting a heavy victory. I do wonder how much of this is simply being wise with hindsight though.
Its well known that SAF has employed very questionably defensive tactics in the past in European games. This unfortunatly has let to some very underpar looking performances, but some great away results. Notably recently in the away win vs valencia. It seems that in the 2009 final he went a big gung ho, but with the attacking talent at his disposal that night who could have blamed him. If he had have set up defensivly I feel we still would have been beaten that night by a better team who were totally at the top of their game and played some superb football. Dont forget that our main breaker in midfield was suspended that night, and so setting up defensivly without Fletch wouldnt be easy. Also going with all out attack with no-one to mind the back door also proved very costly. It seems to me that we were destined to lose that game from the moment Fletch got suspended in the semi.
You wish. I just don't take too kindly to folks misrepresenting my arguments.Touchy little mare, aren't you?
You've already said him being up there with SAF is just ''Sky Sports and tabloid hype''. If that isn't belittling his achievements, the word has lost its meaning.
Mourinho is a great coach, and will rightly rank as one of the best ever when he packs in but come on, if you can't see how vastly overhyped he is by Sky and all the journo's who kiss his arse because of his easy headlines, then you're blind. For example, I heard Richard Keys say Mourinho is looking to retain HIS trophy this season...you'd think Inter were turd that he'd single handedly dragged to treble glory the way people go on. I also notice that the great Real Madrid have now become "Jose Mourinho's Real Madrid", how patronising especially when the club in question is considered by many to be the biggest in the world. When Inter KO'd Chelsea, Bayern and Barcelona last season, it wasn't a collective thing, no, no, no, it was all masterminded by the great Jose, yada, yada, yada
Team's are often referred to as their managers in that manner, it's not unique to Mourinho at Madrid. What an odd thing to get annoyed by.Mourinho is a great coach, and will rightly rank as one of the best ever when he packs in but come on, if you can't see how vastly overhyped he is by Sky and all the journo's who kiss his arse because of his easy headlines, then you're blind. For example, I heard Richard Keys say Mourinho is looking to retain HIS trophy this season...you'd think Inter were turd that he'd single handedly dragged to treble glory the way people go on. I also notice that the great Real Madrid have now become "Jose Mourinho's Real Madrid", how patronising especially when the club in question is considered by many to be the biggest in the world. When Inter KO'd Chelsea, Bayern and Barcelona last season, it wasn't a collective thing, no, no, no, it was all masterminded by the great Jose, yada, yada, yada
Brilliant coach? Absolutely. But also overhyped by many? Absolutely again.
Nowhere near as regularly. I've rarely if not ever heard the term "Alex Ferguson's United" or "Ancelotti's Chelsea" or "Pep Guardiola's Barca". Compare that to "Jose Mourinho's Porto", "Mourinho's Chelsea team", "Mourinho's Inter", and "Jose Mourinho's Real Madrid" and you can see how often his club's almost become a sideshow to the Mourinho wankathon.
Nah, team's are referred to like that all the time, on tv as much as anything. Just watch Soccer Saturday and you'll probably hear it about every team in the league.
So...a couple of days after Fergie says that any future manager of United will need to have had years of experience at the top end of football management ESPN write an article stating that Fergie wants Guardiola for the job.
We might well have been beaten, but we would have had a better chance if we hadn't gone in with such kamikaze tactics. I think the fact we didn't have Fletcher should have been a reason to play a more defensive game, not a more attacking one, in order to cover for his absence - I certainly wouldn't have started Ryan Giggs as a midfielder/second striker. In 2008 we beat them with a midfield of Carrick and Scholes when they had Xavi, Deco and Toure in midfield with Iniesta as a forward, hindsight's a wonderful advantage, but I think we definitely would have had a far better chance if we'd played those players again with Anderson in there as well, and played a much more defensive game.
I reckon he's right about this. When Inter won the Champions League all the news reports talked about Mourinho winning the Champions League, when United won it in 2008, Ferguson was mentioned, but not to the same extent as Mourinho, when Barcelona won in 2009, people didn't talk about Guardiola to the same extent as Mourinho. I don't see it as an important factor on whether he's a good manager or not though.
You can't know this for sure, during the whole of that season we were incredibly reliant on Fletcher (we still are in my opinion) and whenever he was absent our play became disjointed. Xavi and Iniesta had such a good game because they were allowed to dwell on the ball by an abject midfield display.
Fair enough point. Just trying to remember did anyone really kick them that night?? I suppose Fletch would have put one of them up in the air properly if he was there. That certainly would have made them rush their passes a wee bit.
Ah yeah, he was definitely pretty highly rated before that Final, but after it he was elevated to being seemingly beyond criticism. People spoke as though we definitely would have won without his suspension, and with it we had no chance. Personally I reckon if he'd played and we'd gone with similar tactics he'd have been either subbed off through exhaustion or sent off by half time and we'd have lost 4-0 but we'll never know. Fletcher's a good player, but we could have won without him.
He hates Wenger doesn't he!
