Correct.
The United deal is the same as Chelsea, City and Liverpool combined.
Man Utd sleeve sponsor: Kohler
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The United deal is the same as Chelsea, City and Liverpool combined.
Any sources about the 20m per year we are getting from Kohler? Haven't seen any figures floating around so far...
http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/manchester-united-kohler-sleeve-sponsorship
It says the agreement ‘could be worth up to £20m’ so probably around £10-£15m per season and winning the league or CL could bring it up to £20m.
Griezmann probably was coming so the Reddit guy could have been right. Remember Torres saying ' We need you ' and Griezmann crying, this didn't look like a man who had already decided on staying. Griezmann changed his mind, so I still think the Reddit guy is credible.
Is this post a joke?
Man United are a £2bn club, they have enough employees to focus on both commercial deals and signing players and, by the same token, signing a commercial deal doesn't mean we're more interested in that than in getting back to the top in football. This is especially true when you consider that more money from sponsors means a better chance at on-field success.
Pretty much every top club in the PL has signed a sleeve sponsor deal: are they becoming like Arsenal too? We're not becoming Arsenal but our fans are becoming Arsenal fans, complaining when the club improves its financial situation and pushing the ridiculous notion that the business and football side of a club are hostile to each other.
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At least the logo looks ok.
I still think it ruins the kit a bit though.
I still think it ruins the kit a bit though.
Sounds like the words of the reddit guy.
Remember my joke post, when the season starts and all we have signed is Fred, Delot and Fellaini. The last so many years we have either signed 3 or 4 players per year, last year 3 and Sanchez in January. Well we have now too signed 3, maybe one more to come in and remember no one has left yet, except Carrick. United has become big business with shareholders and to them the balance sheet comes first and the football second. Us as fans might think differently but to say that Ed and the Glaser family consider the business side as important as the football side, I doubt it. Every time we have gone in strongly in the transfer market was when we dropped out of the Top 4, e.g. After Moyes, after LvG's second season and again a new manager. Now after last season you would expect Utd to really be active, seeing last year we won nothing and ended up 20 points behind City, but we are not. As usual we are linked to everyone but no solid signs of any more players coming in.
would be cool if we had a collar on this seasons kits and then put this sponsor there.
I see what you did there
We have an entirely separate commercial arm based in London specifically put in place to separate our marketing efforts from our football operations and have done for years so you're talking absolute rubbish here mate. Save your senseless muppetry for the transfer forum.
You can't make an argument based on something that might not happen. Regardless, none of this speaks to my point. The Kohler deal is good and us getting it tied up does not take time away from pursuing transfer deals. The fact that you conflate these two things suggest to me that you are just having a (nonsensical) grumble.
Oh no, not BIG business! If it was little business, I suppose the owners would care a lot less about making money?
You, and a lot of other football fans, seem to having trouble understanding that the football and the money side of things shrink and expand together. Will the Glazers make more money if Man Utd win 10 PLs and 10 CLs in a row? Yes! Will they make less money if the club becomes a midtable side or if it gets relegated? Yes! It's like saying someone who sells computers only cares about the money. Guess what? They make money by making the best computers they can make, just as the Glazers make money because of the football at the club.
You can talk about lack of a supposed lack of investment at the club but that's not because of business. All businesses require investment. If a computer manufacturer doesn't invest, it will fall behind its competitors and go out of business. The same is true for us in that lack of investment will hurt our bottom line. The problem isn't caring about making money, the problem is short-sightedness or bad business. That's if there even is a problem.
I don't care! None of these things were spoken about in your first post and it wasn't what I was responding to.
Whatever it is, this deal further ensure that Manchester United is still the commercial mammoth in world football. Maybe the most successful if you're discounting Real Madrid's and Barcelona's TV rights monopoly.
Great times for the club, but we need major trophies now to back that up! welcome Kohler!
Great times for the club, but we need major trophies now to back that up! welcome Kohler!
I barely post, but this deserves a
I'm quite conservative but I fecking hate this kind of corporate shit. It's just a matter of time before Formula 1 style kits with sponsorship badges covering every inch of the shirt, adverts painted onto the playing pitch and Old Trafford being called the Sony stadium.
Just feck off.
I'm sure there'll be the usual symphony of "but it means more £££ = more players = trophies" but I'd rather watch my team play football than a 90 minute long advert for 150 different companies.
Just feck off.
I'm sure there'll be the usual symphony of "but it means more £££ = more players = trophies" but I'd rather watch my team play football than a 90 minute long advert for 150 different companies.
How much are you willing to bet that any of the above is actually going to happen?
Think its less than Arsenal, and I dont think we have the highest kit sponsorship anymore
Arsenal's sleeve deal is worth £10 million a year, ours is reported to be £20 million.
We have the highest kit sponsorship in PL atleast. Nobody comes close. Also the Sun is reporting that the deal is worth twice the next best deal which tallies with the 20m pounds per year.
Richard Arnold handles major marketing now and has been doing it ever since Gill retired, so you're wrong about the already flawed hypothesis that Woodward shouldn't focus on maximising our marketing revenue.
Haha was thinking the same.That's so American it hurts
I absolutely loved Jürgen. Along with Baresi the two best defenders I've seen
I was reading an article about Arsenals deal which was the biggest at 10 million. If Utds is 20 million then obviously it beats them. I also read Barcas shirt deal was higher than Utds as well
Great, now we have to wear a name on the sleeve of a company that makes fecking urinals.
Barcelona's deal with Rakuten is worth €55m per year for 4 years whereas our Chevy sponsorship is worth £53 million per year over 7 years.
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LOL... I just don't think he should be knocked. He isn't in Griezmann's head.
Always knew Jose was a size queen.
You're consistently giving wrong facts. Barcelona only recently trumps United with its new Nike deal, but that's it.
Manchester United is the most lucrative football team in the world. We have the most money from sponsorships.
It was on an article on Newsnow about Arsenal having the best sleeve deal. Im only quoting what I have read, and the Barca one was true, so how am i "consistently giving wrong facts"?
Hopefully this isnt an omen for a 'leaky' defence next season...
Rakuten’s deal – they will become Barca’s Global Innovation and Entertainment Partner – could rise to as much as £53m per season should the club land La Liga and the Champions League.
It's a deal that tops Manchester United’s £52 million-a-season deal with Chevrolet.
I read Arsenal deal on newsnow was the highest and the article was pre utds deal so was wrong on the one, so how can you say i am "consistently giving wrong facts"?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriss...ble-sponsorship-deals-in-soccer/#258cd9259e0e
From forbes sites, so going by current rate, it's 60 million pounds per year.
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From Barca site
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/club/ne...al-with-fc-barcelona-takes-effect-as-of-today
Yeah i see where your coming from, he seemed to know about the Kohler deal before anyone else so he must have some insight.
Not sure why you're throwing The Sun's Sanchez math at us when Barcelona's official press release and every reputable source out there (including Barcelona's official website as @roonster09 pointed out) has their figure pegged at €55 million and ours pegged at £53 million – not that it matters that much anyway given the article you cited states that Barcelona would have to win the Champions League and La Liga every season of the deal for it to "top Manchester United's £52 million-a-season deal with Chevrolet" which they haven't done since the deal's inception. You're also (like The Sun) ignoring the length of the respective deals which again (even when accounting for currency fluctuations) clearly puts us over every club out there so I'm going to agree with @meamth and say you've been consistently wrong on the facts in pretty much every post you've made in this thread so far but keep doing you man.
Is there anywhere where we can buy the new shirts with the sleeve sponsor?
Everyone getting a sleeve deal basically just drives up transfer fees. Nobody really gets ahead.
But if everyone else does it, we have to too, unfortunately.
So do I. Very dissapointed it does look cheap and it also makes us look small.
What's funny is that Liverpool apparently did it for 5m/year.
Wonder how much Everton got for their Angry Birds ridiculousness 