Ferguson retired a champion with little to no doubt that issues outside of the game were the only reason he shouldn't continue.
We see numerous managers come and go, and by the time they have exited stage left, their time as the all-conquering force that earned them their plaudits, has long since dried up. Many even become antiquated and out of touch with their football no longer cutting, or certainly nothing like it was regarded at their apex.
If Jose had retired in 2010, his legacy would be wholly different to what it is going to end up being, unless of course, he can turn it around. The same is happening to Pep - had he retired a few years ago, he'd be immortalised as something I think he can no longer be regarded as, unless, of course, he too can turn it around.
Clough, Cappello, Trappatoni, Sacchi, Lippi, Simeone all roll off the tongue as managers whose apex came and went by the time they were done, all of them seen as spent forces by the end, Simeone ongoing, accepted.
Klopp's time in the sun is now, but will he eventually go the same way as his peers, or, like a Ferguson, can he constantly re-invent, rebuild and restructure and go out on his own terms?
In terms of what this topic is about, who would you rate as the 5 greatest managers to have graced the game? Who came and went on their own terms, and were undoubtedly top class at the very end of their managerial careers? How many were not 'found out' and instead grew and adapted to the game in whatever guise it was being played in? If you can't think of winningest, top dog managers, how about the next rung down? managers whose results never dropped below a certain bar, who could guarantee success, relative to their remit, right to the very end of their managerial careers?
Ferguson is the #1 of all-time in this regard, imo, but who are the next 4 in line?
We see numerous managers come and go, and by the time they have exited stage left, their time as the all-conquering force that earned them their plaudits, has long since dried up. Many even become antiquated and out of touch with their football no longer cutting, or certainly nothing like it was regarded at their apex.
If Jose had retired in 2010, his legacy would be wholly different to what it is going to end up being, unless of course, he can turn it around. The same is happening to Pep - had he retired a few years ago, he'd be immortalised as something I think he can no longer be regarded as, unless, of course, he too can turn it around.
Clough, Cappello, Trappatoni, Sacchi, Lippi, Simeone all roll off the tongue as managers whose apex came and went by the time they were done, all of them seen as spent forces by the end, Simeone ongoing, accepted.
Klopp's time in the sun is now, but will he eventually go the same way as his peers, or, like a Ferguson, can he constantly re-invent, rebuild and restructure and go out on his own terms?
In terms of what this topic is about, who would you rate as the 5 greatest managers to have graced the game? Who came and went on their own terms, and were undoubtedly top class at the very end of their managerial careers? How many were not 'found out' and instead grew and adapted to the game in whatever guise it was being played in? If you can't think of winningest, top dog managers, how about the next rung down? managers whose results never dropped below a certain bar, who could guarantee success, relative to their remit, right to the very end of their managerial careers?
Ferguson is the #1 of all-time in this regard, imo, but who are the next 4 in line?
