Then maybe all the big teams need to flaunt FFP and then try banning them all. If they do then stand by and watch their CL fall to pieces.
Manchester City banned from CL for 2 seasons and fined 30 million euros | CAS - Ban lifted, fined 10 million
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Bet it wont take 30 years like they did,
We are talking about PSG's former CEO, you couldn't even make it up.Such coincidences.
With Ed Woodward in command? I expect the sun to turn into ar red giant before that happens.
The biggest outside investor of Accor is Jin Jiang, a chinese company, Qatar only owns 11% of Accor. Also, Sarkozy is one administrator in a 10 persons board. You don't rule a company with 11% of the shares especially when someone owns more than you and both the PDG or adminstrators can be revoked by the shareholders if they snap their fingers. So is there ties, yes. Is there something abnormal about those ties? No because Bazin and Sarkozy are accountable before their shareholders and if the deal isn't good for the group, they could be fired tomorrow. According to FFP regulations, Accor is not a related party, and according to commercial laws, Accor isn't controled by Qatar.
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"What are you gonna do, ban us from the Champions League?"
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Wow! If there was ever a thread that deserved the popcorn.gif.......
That was utterly embarrassing, yes. Was like a PR piece. The worst was some former City player that nobody remembers, spouting absolute nonsense
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51508524
I didn't tell you that PSG were in breach of the rules or that QIA controlled Accor, I told you that they have more ties than they had with Fly Emirates. It's also important to remember that Accor has multi billions deals with Qatar(QTA). We both know what they are doing, so lets not pretend that they are not both using each others and that one of them concerns PSG, I personally don't have a problem with it, I don't like FFP as it is today and I think that PSG owners are being smart about it because it's obvious enough to not be labelled as deceiving but it's also not direct enough to give the UEFA an easy shot.
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You're just being disingenuous. A 11% share is nothing, look towards Juve and Bayern for shady stuff with shirt sponsors and shareholders.
Talksport were trying to go that way as well.
I wonder who will win it. Hmmmmm!
Why? They broke the financial rules, it's a fairly simple conclusion. A rugby league team in Australia, Melbourne Storm had 5 league titles taken away from them when it was discovered they had broken financial rules. That never got turned over. Fair is fair. If you do the crime you do the time.
I'm not saying it should mate. Believe me, i want this upheld as much as the next guy, but that's how these things often go. If not overturned, then i can definitely see a reduced sentence. I think they'll get it down to a one year suspension.
I'm not, read the post I responded to and my response. There is more links between Accor and QIA/PSG than there is between Fly Emirates and QIA/PSG. And there is definitely shady deals between Juve and Exor, they are actually one of the reason why I have an issue with FFP, Juventus are historically a sugar daddied club and they benefitted from decades of money injections to the point where they could build a brand around it, I don't think that it's fair for todays clubs and potential sugar daddies, I don't believe that the current limits are reasonable or fair.
As they’re proven guilty shouldn’t the FA strip City of their titles?
Proven to be illegitimate.
Cycling had to do the same with Lance Armstrong to bring some trust and credibility back to the sport.
Proven to be illegitimate.
Cycling had to do the same with Lance Armstrong to bring some trust and credibility back to the sport.
Mourinho won us a title?
fecking cheats.
Punishment by the PL in theory should be a lot harsher seeing as City have actually won the competition.
Athletics hasn’t stripped too many medals retrospectively after drugs cheats have been found so there are some sports who will have a different approach.
The commonality is that they have been banned from future competitions so there is that hanging over city
Redistribute titles to any team that's finished in second place to them...
Relegation would mean so much more, but they can lose their titles too I suppose.
Or just wipe the title off the year
Need to think rationally. Last year they didn't breach it enough. Season before they did. 2012 they did too.
2014 100% no breach that time.
If they just change everything or nothing it is not fair. Need to look at the league tables and positions in general to see if it was fair or not.
You're right about the links but the Accor deal replaced Fly Emirates AND most of the deal with QTA (Nike/Jordan compensated the rest and even more). It's the QTA deal that was very questionnable and the reason why PSG is now self sustainable without it. If Qatar had left in 2015 and pulled the QTA deal, we were screwed. If Qatar leaves now, they won't be able to pull the Accor deal and the club is stable enough now to look for other sources if it doesn't get renewed at the end of the contract.
I don’t expect much of this to stick but I’m just enjoying the hell out of it while it lasts
It is like when we win. Got to enjoy it for two days before the next disaster performance.I don’t expect much of this to stick but I’m just enjoying the hell out of it while it lasts
A lot of fantasy being played out in this thread and I don’t mean just City’s financial numbers.
Anyone expecting any semblance of justice (e.g. titles stripped, relegations etc.) are outside their minds. The Premier League and the football world in general is host to an immoral and grotesque sense of greed. There’s no way City are going to be penalised properly as they bring too much money to the table as it is and there’s many mouths in that particular money trough.
Anyone expecting any semblance of justice (e.g. titles stripped, relegations etc.) are outside their minds. The Premier League and the football world in general is host to an immoral and grotesque sense of greed. There’s no way City are going to be penalised properly as they bring too much money to the table as it is and there’s many mouths in that particular money trough.
So, at least 1.2 billion? I do not believe this.
A shrewd move.
Oh my, a whoosh moment? Well played, Prestwich.
Especially now that we know Etihad specifically paid 67.5m and got 88% back through the Abu Dhabi Group... it all becomes laughable now. This is a criminal matter. I do hope it goes into a penal court after the case is settled in CAS.
Absolutely. And no need to worry about the cup finals they've won either come to think of it.
So now you understand why the accusation is a bit more important than an FFP breach? If true there is no way to defend or justify City's owners actions.
I don’t think you understand what City is accused of, and if PSG does the same thing as City, it’s the end for them.
City received sponsorship from Etihad, say £67.5m, and Abu Dhabi Group, which is state owned, back channeled 88% of that amount to Etihad. 88%. The consequence is that their revenue should have been less than £8m... then this has translated in inflated revenues in the income statement and other financial disclosures. It’s a fraud, there’s no other words for it. In truth, FFP doesn’t even matter in that context.
Going forward I suppose City can just emulate what PSG do.
Its not enough. 2CL,s and 30 mill. Bah. That’s why it will never stop. If they play by the rules they would have to build for years. Imagine getting City to where they are now from where they started by sticking to the rules. It would take 10/15 years. So they just break them. Take the hit and move on in a much Better position than if they follow the rules.