Verdict was due today. All parties agreed to postpone official announcement until Monday. It’s probable both parties were still informed today (if not earlier).
Manchester City banned from CL for 2 seasons and fined 30 million euros | CAS - Ban lifted, fined 10 million
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FFP is dead, plastics have taken over officially. However, it was never in doubt when Pep started planning for the summer you knew he was tipped off pretty reliably.
This doesn't sound good. It sounds like City have "found a way around it" and are thus free to continue what they've been doing this last decade.
How I imagine City's defence went
Was it though? The reported date was always the 13th so unless there is some documentation you are privy to, I dont buy it.
You might ask, what does this have to do with this case?... nothingHow I imagine City's defence went
If this is true then FFP is dead.
How I imagine City's defence went
Tbh, I never had confidence this will stand. I can see that £30m still being used, just depends on who's pockets needed lining for City to get their way.
Screw them anyway, let them go full throttle next season, will make it all that much sweeter when we finish above them.
So if/once they get away with it, does that means FFP is effectively dead in the water?
Trevor Sinclair has the decision 3 days early
I’m pretty confident it won’t be upheld to be fair these things never are. Hopefully it is reduced or something.
I’m pretty confident it won’t be upheld to be fair these things never are. Hopefully it is reduced or something.
Press reported a week ago that original date was 10th but UEFA wanted it pushed back until after the CL draw. This is all in the public domain accessible by a quick Google search.
... So they won't know the decision till the 13th then?
How can they be exonerated when the evidence is there in black and white?
Think the point was that it wont go public until the 13th, but the parties involved would know today.
Pep said they mounted a strong defense ................ probably in big suitcases.
But why would a public announcement be a few days after both parties know? Makes no sense.
Just out of curiosity, could UEFA appeal the decision of exoneration by CAS?
No it means City were honest in their 13/14 deal with UEFA and fully complied/were telling the truth.
They probably could but it's unlikely they would. Where are they going to get new evidence from...
That said cheesemans comment was on the feel at the club as opposed to any verdict
We have no reason to believe city weren't completely honest on that occasion.
FFP is dead if this happens. I expect a big fight back from Bayern, Real Madrid, Barca, Liverpool and us. The proper historical clubs out there.
so you will admit if they’re found guilty that they weren’t I assume?
Who? What journalist is fecking UEFA biased?
You just proved my point here. Odds on this is the same rumour being passed round like Chinese whispers.
where is the white text??
Pep being smug about it and now other noices coming just confirms people within the club already know about the decision.
They probably won the appeal on the basis of technicalities that the evidence was found in an illegal way. I don't think this will be over as city's wrongdoings have been caught on the tape. Maybe UEFA will have to get to them some other way.
They probably won the appeal on the basis of technicalities that the evidence was found in an illegal way. I don't think this will be over as city's wrongdoings have been caught on the tape. Maybe UEFA will have to get to them some other way.
Der Spiegel gave plenty of reasons, uefas entire case hinged on City lying in 13/14. These charges are entirely based on that era.
Either the paper report was falsified (unlikely) or inadmissible (most likely) or taken out of context (maybe)
To be fair I think the guy you replied to was being sarcastic.
Why? What power would CAS have to keep City or anybody quiet?
UEFA would have to make a deal with City, if anything?
Na, think about it. If they stay silent or say they are concerned, they lose all negotiating leverage in their business dealings with players and outside the club. If the ban is overturned, they will say they were right all along. If the ban is upheld, they will say CAS didn't give them a fair trial and they will look to appeal to a court with higher legal standing and integrity (in their view).
Oh, I guess it could end up the same way in that they were confident nothing would come of the initial UEFA inquiry. We'll see what happens.
Of course my thinking on what happened is that deal was shady as feck. UEFA as complicit as City, the leaks broke and UEFA panicked had to backtrack and investigate more thoroughly.
So I assume you will admit if found innocent that they indeed were and this entire forum (myself included) were plain wrong.
scrap this shit FFP and it has no effect on cooking the books.
Say it is true and City avoid the ban. How would you feel ? Happy ? Relieved ?
But think from UEFA's side. If they lose this appeal then that will make them look a fool. If I remember correctly the appeal is based on whether the evidence were obtained correctly and not whether they cheated or not. The tape basically confirms there was something shady happening so it's all based on technicalities
Na because there is no doubt that if it is overturned, it will be based on the illegality of the hacked emails (although CAS have admitted evidence obtained through hacking previously). The hacked emails definitely show that City is guilty, the appeal is based on if they can be punished for that however.
They will be time barred on opening a new investigation as they had 5 years.
It depends why they’re found not guilty.
Why didn’t they fight in 2019 when documents showed UEFA conspired with PSG to let them get away with their inflated sponsorships? The same investigator who led that dubious process led the one against City.
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They also hired an army of lawyers to find any and all possible loopholes so it seems they've managed to game the system if what's being reported is true.
It would also signal the end of FFP as any legitimate safeguard against clubs overreaching financially and would likely open the door for Newcastle to
That doesn't address what I was saying. I'm only explaining why City are leaking their "feelings" to media connections. It is known that City employ a slick PR operation to influence the public. UEFA may not be willing to play the PR battle with them regardless of what the effects of the appeal are (will be massive regardless of the outcome).
Cheeseman is reliable in providing info that Txixi wants the public to know. Unless it's a leak directly from CAS, it's all smoke and mirrors.