Models are based on past information, so I have to wonder how these guys came to the conclusion and words they did.
You've tiptoeing around your original point though. You've stated that getting knocked out in semi finals and being in second place means we can't have a bright future. You're saying one of the youngest squads in the league can't improve. You know as well as I do that's bollocks. We have a very healthy squad at the moment. As I said previously, on the proviso that we make a couple more shrewd signings we will have a squad capable of competing at the highest level.
Actually most of his signings would score us lowly on the sustainability because they've not been with us for enough time.
We don’t know we have a good squad or a good manager or DOF or anything and this SSM is ignoring talent and competence which is why it reflects well on us.
0 mins played in the league means he's not included.
Then you are completely missing the whole point if you think the point is about having a slightly younger squad than City. That's not what I was talking about as progress. You are on something else mate, go read it again.
Don’t throw yourself toys out, you used this SSM as evidence you know better as others can’t see what’s going on but you clearly don’t understand what’s it’s actually saying.
Cut the crap and tell me what's the context of my post. You are the one who started this by replying to my post originally so don't start dragging me into something that I never actually say in the post you replied.
But this is just what you've chosen to take from the article, not actually what it is saying. Based on the metrics they've given, new signings are actually cause a reduction on our sustainability rating, and nowhere does it talk about the talent of the squad.
They've to play minutes in the league for them to be included in the calculation.Those metrics seem completely ridiculous do they not? As i understand it the calculation is basically (years spent at club)*(years on contract)*(% of games)/age
Age will barely matter then. A 40 year old who has spent 8 years at the club is twice as sustainable as a 20 year old who has spent two years at the club according to this metric. So essentially the way to "win" this sustainability measure is just to keep players for as long as possible, on the longest possible contracts, regardless of their ability.
That definitely sounds like a competition we would win but I'd be hard pressed to call it a sustainable strategy
That's not really the point though. Sure, it excludes ridiculous cases like Phil Jones, but it still rewards keeping inadequate squad players rather than attempting to add new competion.
Well it's not really performance related though is it? It's more to do with the sustainability of the squad, where promoting youth and overall age of the squad etc is factored in, that was my take on it.
Having a younger squad doesnt necessarily mean its a better squad. Sure if your key players are young then is a plus meaning Bruno, Rashford, Shaw, etc are fairly young and with lots of years ahead. But having young players like James means feck, he wont improve much so it doesn't matter if he's young or not.
It does because we tend to play a small squad and loads of our unwanted players do not get enough minutes to impact this model.
You are forgetting the fact that we are not just having a younger squad but actually younger squad that is currently well developed and showing improvement. Is it better to have a younger squad that is currently well developed and showing improvement than the one under Jose who stop developing and showing sign improvement but relying on spending money on already made 29 years old players?
Of course is better, I agree we have a squad with more potential today than 2 years ago. But we still need those players to fulfill their potential, thats why I don't think its given that we'll be comfortably top 4.
The point of me saying our young squad is being ''well developed & showing improvement'' is for the sake of players to fulfil their potential. That's why the rebuilding job will take time and that's where we see the progress of the squad not only based on how many points we had in the league.
I agree, all Im saying is that progress/fulfillment of potential is not given and we shouldnt take it as such.
Again, the fulfilment of potential is not the progress you should see now. But instead, how the squad has evolved each year, how the squad shown improvement and being well developed is what you should see as sign of progress going the right path and better path than under Mourinho. This is manager's 2nd full season, you can't expect to judge the progress based on the player's fulfilment of potential now.
