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I agree with Louis, Mourinho should be sacked for not bringing back the players louis got rid of in first place.
It wasn't top notch. Lost to Arsenal and Spurs both 3-0 in his final season and he never beat Chelsea. His record was probably slightly over par. Compared to Mourinho his record is better.To be fair to him his record in the big games was top notch. 3-2 v Arsenal and 2-1 at Anfield were great.
Also got humped by Liverpool in the Europa cup.It wasn't top notch. Lost to Arsenal and Spurs both 3-0 in his final season and he never beat Chelsea. His record was probably slightly over par. Compared to Mourinho his record is better.
More than made up for with the double double over them in the league. We haven't won a single game against them under Mourinho yet.Also got humped by Liverpool in the Europa cup.
Mourinho would have beat Brenton with ease.More than made up for with the double double over them in the league. We haven't won a single game against them under Mourinho yet.
No debate that LVG's style was dreadful but do you see another style being coached? I am at a loss sometimes to see what Jose's attacking style and coaching are.Really? I'd argue Moyes didn't have the time to really damage us, he didn't spend millions on rubbish players (say what you want about Fellaini and Mata but they're still contributing massively to us today), nor did he sell anyone who knew what it was like to compete at the highest level.
In LVG's two years he brought in Shaw, Herrera, Rojo, Blind, Darmian, Martial, Di Maria, Falcao, Memphis, Schneiderlin & Schweinsteiger 5 of which are no longer here and who knows how long 2 others will still be here for. He instilled a style of play that took months to coach out of the players. The only good things LVG brought to the club was an FA Cup, Rashford and Martial
I SHALL survive, for crying out loadI agree. All the stuff surrounding him was way more entertaining than United is now. No more videos like this anymore:
This is very true early on in your post.Long, depressing post following:
van Gaal was a master at promising that excitement was just around the corner, but ultimately never delivering. There were only moments with van Gaal, and I'm not really sure how much he had to do with them.
Unsure what is incorrect in these sentences."We played football that was quite alright. But it's not football that is appreciated in England.
"And yet, right now, looking at United, I have to conclude Mourinho is not being criticized while it's far more boring football.
"What United produce now is defensive football. I always played attacking football. The proof is that the opposition were always parking the bus.
"They don't do that now because Jose Mourinho plays so defensive."
Aye like his small squad he had from the startLove the way Louis started giving every kid in the academy game time -McNair, Love etc when things were going horribly wrong so he could try to make it look like it was going horribly wrong due to his incredible faith in youth that needed time and no other reason
And that's nothing to be proud of. Are we, are we actually worse than Real fans.Take this demented fool's words with a pinch of salt. He got booed lifting the FA cup, that's how much Utd fans hated him in the end. He's entitled to be bitter, but he should keep his massive, square head schtum.
Enjoy the mince pies.
He came out with a load of shit at the end of the season that contributed to those boos and it's stuff I think people on here have forgotten.And that's nothing to be proud of. Are we, are we actually worse than Real fans.
We may have had some disappointing performances, but the football we've played under Mourinho has been far more entertaining than under van Gaal. Even when we won under van Gaal we were generally very boring. Either you've forgotten quite how boring we were under van Gaal, or you've bought into the myth that Mourinho is boring, but it's simply not comparable.LvG was pretty boring, however Mourinho's isn't pretty to look at either. Hopefully he gets 2nd place by the end of the season because frankly it's the only excuse his followers have to justify his United's football.
Nonsense! There are moments I enjoy our football under Jose. Yes, there are bad games but we have scored 4 goals in more than 8 games and it was pretty.LvG was pretty boring, however Mourinho's isn't pretty to look at either. Hopefully he gets 2nd place by the end of the season because frankly it's the only excuse his followers have to justify his United's football.
I shall explain as a fan of him -Do you remember the bullshit about "philosophy"? This guy is full of himself.
Sometimes, I really wonder if many football managers are actually useless morons who are only capable of cultivating some backroom "old boys club" relationships. I cannot find any other reasonable explanation about how people like LVG and Moyes are getting hired again and again, despite messing up in the past and wasting millions. In most other jobs you do not get second and third chances like that.
Well Jose got a second chance after nearly ruining Chelsea.Do you remember the bullshit about "philosophy"? This guy is full of himself.
Sometimes, I really wonder if many football managers are actually useless morons who are only capable of cultivating some backroom "old boys club" relationships. I cannot find any other reasonable explanation about how people like LVG and Moyes are getting hired again and again, despite messing up in the past and wasting millions. In most other jobs you do not get second and third chances like that.
... for being too skinny.It’s like when the toxic fat ex girlfriend criticizes your new girlfriend
Have you ever watched Welbeck play? His technical ability isn't the issue with him. His issue has always been his end-product and finishing. He's great at build-up etc.I shall explain as a fan of him -
1) LVG is usually hired by bigger clubs to fast track a club progression in terms of team play & understanding (not titles) alongside a focus on a group of youngsters basically a small slice of something close to his ajax team was able to do.
2)LVG is a manager who gets rid of a lot of players especially ones who struggle to play in a team either for being selfish (Rivaldo), Lack basic technical ability (welbeck), lacks intelligence of basic movement in relation to a team (like Rafael)
3) alters players positions like schweinsteriger alaba abidal Valencia young
4) replaces indivualistic players with players who are more able to play in a team ie xavi iniesta muller Lingard Rashford
5) Focuses on the basics because he is a very out dated manager such as a a team that can pass & position themselves takes a major priority rather than individualistic play (ie herreras demise)
6)the Philosophy simply is another word of him saying a club understanding of its basic ability & its basic formation; a philosophy is basically a teaching or understanding of a subject after all & all he is trying to achieve is a group of players understanding their role within a system. Barcelona 433, Bayern 451 & United I'm pretty sure this is 352.
7) he gets too imposing on the basics that his clubs end up playing a basic brand of football like a kid not allowing to race on his bicycle but has to peddle slowly; this is both done purposely but combines with his inability to utilise the benefits of having certain players in the job doing more individual roles such as Lingard marauding around applying pressure. This tends to be why youngsters particularly have an easy time with him because he is basically holding their hand & giving them the most basics of instruction dependant on the team formation; but usually well experienced players find it much more difficult to deal with him
Ps: I've had this conversation before with too many people & had my fair share of criticism on this subject about how what I was saying is wrong. So I do understand your opinion on it too
Guardian said:Louis van Gaal, in particular, has some nerve criticising his successor when his own time in Manchester was so bland and grey. United, according to Van Gaal, are now playing “far more boring football” and he has questioned why Mourinho is not, in his view, subjected to the same level of criticism. “I always played attacking football. The proof is that the opposition were always parking the bus. They don’t do that now because Mourinho plays so defensively.”
Is he being serious? There was a point in the Van Gaal era, no matter how much he might want us to airbrush it from history, when United had taken fewer shots than every other Premier League club bar the Sunderland side that spent 237 days in the relegation places. United made more backward passes than any other club. They had the lowest percentage when it came to moving the ball forward and, frankly, the players hated it. David de Gea, for one, would not have stuck around if Van Gaal were still in charge. Other players talk of the mood inside the dressing room then as bordering on mutiny.