hilarious take. record numbers of goals and assists. trying to get the deal done for years. price nearly 100m euro. "jaden you were on 53k, how does 58k sound?"its some of the wages that were handed out that get me and that then turns into the problem when selling player. Sancho, ok we are almost all guilt of wanting that transfer at that time but why was he offered such high wages ? Surely with no competition a 10-20% increase on the Dortmund salary (53K) should have been enough for someone who really wanted to play for Utd, not almost 5 times the salary (250K). Thats assuming though that the figures we are told are accurate.
its some of the wages that were handed out that get me and that then turns into the problem when selling player. Sancho, ok we are almost all guilt of wanting that transfer at that time but why was he offered such high wages ? Surely with no competition a 10-20% increase on the Dortmund salary (53K) should have been enough for someone who really wanted to play for Utd, not almost 5 times the salary (250K). Thats assuming though that the figures we are told are accurate.
hilarious take. record numbers of goals and assists. trying to get the deal done for years. price nearly 100m euro. "jaden you were on 53k, how does 58k sound?"
imagine it leaked that we would only offer him 58k. imagine the reaction on this forum.
what if we missed out on hojlund because he was on 20k and we offered him 22k, nice 10% uplift? would you be okay with that?
very hilarious. the idea that these players would accept a 10-20% increase can just be rejected offhand.how hilarious ? 53K to 250K is quite the negotiation.
its some of the wages that were handed out that get me and that then turns into the problem when selling player. Sancho, ok we are almost all guilt of wanting that transfer at that time but why was he offered such high wages ? Surely with no competition a 10-20% increase on the Dortmund salary (53K) should have been enough for someone who really wanted to play for Utd, not almost 5 times the salary (250K). Thats assuming though that the figures we are told are accurate.
very hilarious. the idea that these players would accept a 10-20% increase can just be rejected offhand.
I believe Sancho's salary at Dortmund had already reached 190k a week. This is Dortmund's Modus Operandi to lure potential superstars aside of game time and CL experience. Pep called them out few years ago.
7.5 times the salary wasnt it 375k a week?its some of the wages that were handed out that get me and that then turns into the problem when selling player. Sancho, ok we are almost all guilt of wanting that transfer at that time but why was he offered such high wages ? Surely with no competition a 10-20% increase on the Dortmund salary (53K) should have been enough for someone who really wanted to play for Utd, not almost 5 times the salary (250K). Thats assuming though that the figures we are told are accurate.
Why should he? I don't see anyone claiming Haaland or Bellingham lack hunger and they surely got more than 10-20% increase when they left Dortmund. A proven talent will get a big contract and if United aren't willing to üay that the player wouldn't move there.i think you have hit something there, 'these players' , the wrong players is the real issue i guess. A hungry player should really be happy to play for Utd with a 10-20% increase in wages (assuming its not a youth contract) , even after the wages the marketability and click potential would be through the roof on signing for Utd.
It's evident that there's frustration and disappointment with Murtough's performance over the past year. The inability to offload certain players and the recruitment decisions have clearly left some fans dissatisfied. The perception of being closely tied to certain players or acquaintances, even those connected through wedding gifts, has raised concerns about impartiality in transfer dealings. It remains to be seen how the club addresses these issues and if improvements can be made in the future.After the shambles and embarrassment of last summer… give murtough more time they said.
1 year on. Still ETH yes-man. Failed to shift Maguire. And mctominay. And martial. And VDB. Desperation bids for 8th and 12th place finishing club rejects like cucurella and hojberg.
No club transfer targets who didn’t at least give speeches at Erik’s wedding or are godfather to his kids.
The thing about wages is that until something fundamentally changes its all we have to offer anyone.
As for Murtough I do feel he gets a bad wrap for following the manager a bit to much but then that's hardly the worst thing, he did a lot of good with the youth set up signing the likes of Garnacho, Kambwala and Fernandez to name 3.
Will he be here if this deal goes through I highly doubt that but then should they employ a DoF who goes against the manager too much it could be that EtH will leave as well.
Believe me, the "Murtough did nothing wrong" brigade is still going strong here.It's hilarious how vehemently some people on here have defended him in the past. He really is a non entity
It's hilarious how vehemently some people on here have defended him in the past. He really is a non entity
The worst thing that happened to us post SAF is not Moyes, LVG, Jose or Ole. The worst thing happened to us was Ed and his pals Arnold and Murtough.
I don't think this argument works. United making bad tranfers is incredible waste of money. Someone competent would have invested much smarter.a- The Glazers are incompetent owners who only care about putting money in their pockets. They won't hire someone competent in that role simply
I would like to say I agree with your pro murtough points but there is literally no sign of improvement. We were probably way behind the times in using data but now we mostly just sign players our manager knows so what has changed. Sure the glazers glacial decision making is an issue but did that result in us paying £80m for Antony or deciding to spend so much of our summer budget on mount with the misguided intention of playing him as an 8I was against him from day 1. I took the insults for it simply and I stood my ground on two arguments alone.
a- The Glazers are incompetent owners who only care about putting money in their pockets. They won't hire someone competent in that role simply because they would either have to bend to his wishes or he'll have to resign and make them look like fools. Murtough thrived into that system which suggest that he's a puppet.
b- Murtough had zero experience in the role. That's a huge problem since the role depend on the person being in the know how of everything (players, agents, clubs etc). Sure there are inexperienced DOFs around but those tend to thrive in a club whose structure is already built. We lacked that and we still do.
However I can understand the pro Murtough brigade
a- the system left by SAF was ancient and obsolete. It worked for him cause he was a genius but once he was gone it collapsed on itself. There was so much space for improvement (ex appointing data analysts) that any change was seen as positive
b- Murtough and Arnold were knee capped by undecisive owners who simply can't take a decision. Transfers are fluid and few hours can change everything. There are rumors of the Glazers taking an entire month to decide.
I don't think this argument works. United making bad tranfers is incredible waste of money. Someone competent would have invested much smarter.
I would like to say I agree with your pro murtough points but there is literally no sign of improvement. We were probably way behind the times in using data but now we mostly just sign players our manager knows so what has changed. Sure the glazers glacial decision making is an issue but did that result in us paying £80m for Antony or deciding to spend so much of our summer budget on mount with the misguided intention of playing him as an 8
Every fecking fans and their dogs know last summer that we need a proven striker but we spent 70M on a young striker. I like Hojlund but he is too inexperienced to lead us in the attack.
Haland alone score as many goals as our team. Embarrassing
This is such a weird thing to complain aboutEvery fecking fans and their dogs know last summer that we need a proven striker but we spent 70M on a young striker. I like Hojlund but he is too inexperienced to lead us in the attack.
Haland alone score as many goals as our team. Embarrassing
In fairness, when I opened the thread, I was sure someone was going to find a way of blaming Fletcher for this game.This is such a weird thing to complain about
Tbf except for Kane all the other strikers have been rubbish.
Games against city are a reflection on the club. We’ve been run so poorly and without strategy for so long and it’s how’s on the pitch.
Managers and players also should rightly share some blame, but it’s altogether pointless who we have in place there when we are so rudderlessly led.
I don’t see Murtough getting a free pass anywhere? The general consensus on here seems to be that he’s absolutely shite.
But let's be honest if we bring a new competent Dof, a new head of recruitment etc, will ETH willingly lose the power he has now?
Blaming Ten Hag for squandering for 400m (which happens on here constantly) is giving Murtough a free pass.
