mikeyt
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It's the right move, just hope it's not a case of use freeing up £250k a week to waste on another average player who will cost £60million.
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Which was his first.. (although lockdown Martial was different gravy)One more bad apple gone hopefully.
9 years, 317 appearances 90 goals.
He had one good season.
You said it here didn't you? The bolded part. Your exact wording.
Supremely talented? I cannot tell if this is a joke.
Sure.. easy to say now. Players can not reach their full potential and still be supremely talented. If you arent able to see how talented Martial was as a player that is more on your ability to judge players. He started his first season for Manchester United as a 19 year old and scored 11 goals and had 5 assists as a left winger who wasnt playing all the minutes he could. There arent many players able to do that.Imo such low standards.
2 goals says he's not really a decent squad player though. He's an occasionally decent squad player which is not quite the same thing. We should have backup players who score at 1 in 3 minimum, not 1 in 10 (and I appreciate our first choices can't manage that right now!)It'll cost 3m in expenses to extent him for another year.
He's not fit for our club that's for sure, but how will we get another decent backup striker at that cost? Surely Højlund can't play every game. Imo we need 2 new strikers, but that's probably outside of our budget. I don't think we long term will play Rashford up front neither.
And Martial is decent - Last year we had fecking Wout Weghorst. At least Martial has a bit of everything and can hold up the ball well, while also having technique. 3 m for a decent squad player is nothing.
Martial is a waste of space, Just because Wout was awful doesnt mean that is the bar we judge by. Pep has managed to play for long periods without a recognised striker.It'll cost 3m in expenses to extent him for another year.
He's not fit for our club that's for sure, but how will we get another decent backup striker at that cost? Surely Højlund can't play every game. Imo we need 2 new strikers, but that's probably outside of our budget. I don't think we long term will play Rashford up front neither.
And Martial is decent - Last year we had fecking Wout Weghorst. At least Martial has a bit of everything and can hold up the ball well, while also having technique. 3 m for a decent squad player is nothing.
Well, we can all agree it’s not great - but which alternative can give us the same for 3m? I'm arguing he should be 3rd choice, that's all.2 goals says he's not really a decent squad player though. He's an occasionally decent squad player which is not quite the same thing. We should have backup players who score at 1 in 3 minimum, not 1 in 10 (and I appreciate our first choices can't manage that right now!)
Doesn't matter, players at Man United need to achieve a higher standard than that. If we have to spend 10m or 20m to get a better 3rd choice than that then we should. It's a false economy to have to coach players who are no longer at the required level just because they are cheap. It's how you end up extending the likes of Rojo and Phil Jones long past their sell by dates. I wouldn't even cost £3m a year, I'd do it for free probably, but I also wouldn't sign me for Man United. I'd rather give a youngster a go next year, whether we sign them or it's one of the U18s. Amad can also play there sort of.Well, we can all agree it’s not great - but which alternative can give us the same for 3m? I'm arguing he should be 3rd choice, that's all.
I just doubt we can get any real strikers who's actually a lot better, without paying around 40m. With this years injury crisis we need someone to fill in if everything goes south.
But you gotta be pragmatic. Extending for 1 year if we can't get anyone, then it is better than not extending and having a lightweight academy player who can't fill in to play on top. It's not unthinkable that both Højlund and Rashford is injured at the same time or that one is and the other needs a rest now and then. Amad is a winger, he's too light weight and lacks height to play as a target man.Doesn't matter, players at Man United need to achieve a higher standard than that. If we have to spend 10m or 20m to get a better 3rd choice than that then we should. It's a false economy to have to coach players who are no longer at the required level just because they are cheap. It's how you end up extending the likes of Rojo and Phil Jones long past their sell by dates. I wouldn't even cost £3m a year, I'd do it for free probably, but I also wouldn't sign me for Man United. I'd rather give a youngster a go next year, whether we sign them or it's one of the U18s. Amad can also play there sort of.
This 'pragmatism' rubbish is what got us into this mess. He is not good enough and incapable of running, get him gone. End of.But you gotta be pragmatic. Extending for 1 year if we can't get anyone, then it is better than not extending and having an academy player who can't fill in to play on top.
The thing is, for 10m Wout Weghorst is about what you can get. I'd rather have Martial then for 3m and use 7m more on a 2nd striker, that's all.
Got the replies though didn’t it? In all seriousness, Martial has been the scapegoat even though he has not played much.Nice wum
You can’t present better alternatives can you? Name one better option as 3rd striker for 10m. We do need a third backup, I’m sure you’ll agree with that.This 'pragmatism' rubbish is what got us into this mess. He is not good enough and incapable of running, get him gone. End of.
Ok as an example Villa signed that Colombian lad for I think it was 10-20m. He's no world beater but he puts himself about and has potential to improve. If a club with our resources and history can't find somebody worth a punt like that then we might as well sack the scouting team and close the doors. In fact I suspect we'll be after Guirassy if the release clause is true. Again, he might not be the answer to our prayers but he's potentially worth rolling the dice on.You can’t present better alternatives can you? Name one better option as 3rd striker for 10m. We do need a third backup, I’m sure you’ll agree with that.
He isn't going on trialDamn. No testimony then
You don't need three strikers. Two is fine with one of the wide players(Rashford) also filling in.It'll cost 3m in expenses to extent him for another year.
He's not fit for our club that's for sure, but how will we get another decent backup striker at that cost? Surely Højlund can't play every game. Imo we need 2 new strikers, but that's probably outside of our budget. I don't think we long term will play Rashford up front neither.
And Martial is decent - Last year we had fecking Wout Weghorst. At least Martial has a bit of everything and can hold up the ball well, while also having technique. 3 m for a decent squad player is nothing.
This post is quite, quite bizarre, on a number of levels. Keep them coming though!Buckle up Antony. You’re the next scapegoat now.
I hope he rips it at another club that has a functional attack and us Martial FC fans are proven right again.
So sick of the non technical supporters of this football club who’ve probably never played football at any level ridiculing our strikers every game.
Even madder considering he went to Sevilla not long ago, stunk the place out and the fans hated him.This post is quite, quite bizarre, on a number of levels. Keep them coming though!
I get your logic, albeit I don't agree with keeping Martial in this instance, however- can you explain how you got $3m? Surely he's extension is worth more than $60k/week?But you gotta be pragmatic. Extending for 1 year if we can't get anyone, then it is better than not extending and having a lightweight academy player who can't fill in to play on top. It's not unthinkable that both Højlund and Rashford is injured at the same time or that one is and the other needs a rest now and then. Amad is a winger, he's too light weight and lacks height to play as a target man.
The thing is, for 10m Wout Weghorst is about what you can get. I'd rather have Martial then for 3m and use 7m more on a 2nd striker, that's all.
Hmm, sorry I made a mistake. I initially Just googled his monthly wage and multiplied by 12. 250k a month x 12. But it’s his weekly wage that is 250k, so it’s actually 12-13m to keep him.I get your logic, albeit I don't agree with keeping Martial in this instance, however- can you explain how you got $3m? Surely he's extension is worth more than $60k/week?
And if it is, then my bad! And I may agree with your point after all!
That's the bar I judge the club by though. I'm sick of Martial but the fact that we brought in a striker of the level of Weghorst at all means it wouldn't surprise me if this club got a downgrade on Martial after letting him go.Martial is a waste of space, Just because Wout was awful doesnt mean that is the bar we judge by. Pep has managed to play for long periods without a recognised striker.
Bring up one of the kids. Would contribute more.I prefer selling him but not now. We don’t have any striker left.
He had good moments, particularly during the Ole era. I always remember lockdown and Covid with a United front 3 of Greenwood - Martial - Rashford. In front of a midfield 3 of Matic - Pogba - Bruno. It seemed like we played with that team every single week in an empty stadium.I wonder how much his overall cost really was in the end. Initial fee was £36m, but what add ons were actually met (if they were)? It was £9m for Ballon D'or, £9m for winning the CL as well I think. So £36m for him isn't too bad a deal overall (not including the shit he's put out over the last 3 seasons, the exorbitant wage etc etc).
His first season was pretty good, as was his 23 goal 2019/20One more bad apple gone hopefully.
9 years, 317 appearances 90 goals.
He had one good season.