Problem with Jose is the ego is far bigger than the talent. This is a bloke who never played the game trying to tell world class attackers they are not good enough. Hazard, Sanchez, Ronaldo, Mo Salah, De Bruyne, Rashford, Martial, Pogba, Kaka just some names who Jose tried to destroy because he felt they weren't good enough defensively. That's the same as David Moyes telling Messi he is a fragile pussy for putting mazy dribbles past 3 defenders ahead of making endless bone crunching tackles against the opposition.
Mathias Pogba - ‘Mourinho was the problem’
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Well it shouldn't be any problem with mourinho telling pogba that he is not defensively good enough when its the truth, the problem lies with how he told him and did expect him to follow orders without listening to other opposite opinions in the dressing room to what he had on the pitch in terms of approach to a game and playing style and use of the ball. As a top midfielder he is expected to Control football games without the ball as well but the way mourinho used the ball possession created a problem.
I cant say i'v heard him sulking in Juve or at the French NT, and the only evidence we have here is under Jose so the narrative that Pogba is some high maintenance diva just because the conflict with Jose is unfair. Sure some players just graft on and perform the same as they always do under most managers, and Pogba is definitely not one of those, but its not like everyone else were playing their best either
He kept playing him in a midfield 2 to try and humiliate him and to make a statement to the board that he wasn't good enough. This is the same bloke who turned Chelsea fans on Hazard, sold De Bruyne and Mo Salah for peanuts, Tried to swap Martial for Alderweireld, Said Rashford was too scared on the pitch to play well, turned Kaka from Ballon D'or winner to bench warmer in a short space of time. Jose's methods only works at smaller clubs who thrive on the underdog role playing defensive park the bus football. He doesn't know how to intigrate attacking geniuses into his defensive philosophy.
Same with SAF, he could sell top players (Beckham, Stam, RvN) because he was bringing success year after year.
Let me be the first to welcome you to the Caf, Jose.
Oh dear
Jose himself got rid of Ikker Casillas and he managed to do that because he was winning with Real. If you are winning Manager stays. If you don't then if gets into a fight with the star player or many players it is more easy to replace one man than half the team. It is not rocket science. It has happened in the past and it will happen now and also in the future. It is logic.
He clashed with Ibrahimovich
And there you have it! Not a Utd fan but definitely a Mourinho apologist!
Top talent???
Pogba,yes! but the rest?You should be a comedian. Michael McIntire better watch out
He is not a United fan.
While I think the Ed vs Mou feud started this past July-Aug, the bitter Pogba vs Mou feud started way earlier.
And it's obvious Pogba saw a chance to sack Mou this autumn and went for it.
And it's obvious Pogba saw a chance to sack Mou this autumn and went for it.
Which is why he went back early and played very well during the first months until an injury that saw him miss one month of football. Yup, obvious attempt to sack Mourinho.
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And if only it was true, it would make him a hero in my book, but alas it's all made-up bs with absolutely zero proof but plenty of examples to prove otherwise.
He fell with Quaresma as well but its telling that you need to go almost a decade back to for instances of Jose not completely burning down a dressing room.
The maverick Mourinho that won a treble and competed with Peps Barca is long gone and has been for years. He's been replaced by a dour and miserable shell of a once great manager
I think one clear outcome from all this, as if we didn't know it already, is don't put a square peg in a round hole...and I'll putting aside the fact that Jose does need to be bigger than the players as that's just become obvious.
Pogba is thriving playing on the left mid, scoring and creating goals which we expected him to do. OGS has played him in the position that suits his style and giving him the respect and love the guy obviously still needs. Nothing wrong with people needing this too by the way. Jose was asking him to do things that meant his way of playing football that made him a success were strifled. Messi would not be the player he is if he was asked to play defensive football, track back more etc. You have to bring the best out of players of this quality by playing them where they do their damage and not try to change them
Get others in to fit around their genius
Pogba is thriving playing on the left mid, scoring and creating goals which we expected him to do. OGS has played him in the position that suits his style and giving him the respect and love the guy obviously still needs. Nothing wrong with people needing this too by the way. Jose was asking him to do things that meant his way of playing football that made him a success were strifled. Messi would not be the player he is if he was asked to play defensive football, track back more etc. You have to bring the best out of players of this quality by playing them where they do their damage and not try to change them
Get others in to fit around their genius
Pogba was one of the two players (along with Martial) who was dragging us to victories a couple of months ago when it seemed Mourinho was about to be fired. He would have been fired back then if not for those two. Strange way to act if Pogba was actively going out of his way to make it happen.
Pogba was also, along with Shaw, our best player for the first month or two of the season. Yes he's also had poor periods, but this rubbish about him being poor all season really needs to end. Over the course of the entire season so far, he has been our best player.
Meanwhile Mourinho has spent the entire season going out of his way to pick fights with players, telling the world and the players themselves that they were shit, and playing stupid line-ups that were obviously done to try to make a point to Ed.
Yeah, we should build him a statue outside.
Name calling is the lowest and weakest form of argument.And there you have it! Not a Utd fan but definitely a Mourinho apologist!
Top talent???
You should be a comedian. Michael McIntire better watch out
Mourinho was a problem, I wouldn't say the problem though. Still got a lot to fix.
meh (to quote you)!