Max Meyer | Rejected Schalke Contract Offer

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So there is a years old thread on this guy but rather than bump it I thought i'd start a new one considering a lot has changed since 2015 with this guy.



The jist of it is, it looks likely he's a free agent this summer, as BILD have reported he's rejected a new contract offer, he's still only 22 and, prior, he's been predominantly higher up the pitch, your typical #10 and such, and whilst you could see he was talented he wasn't setting the world alight by any means. Now however, he's been transformed under Tedesco into more of a CDM type, think along the lines of Xabi Alonso, here's an article and an accompanying video that goes into more detail

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/...-esque-role-under-domenico-tedesco-464407.jsp

Now in my opinion this guy would be an absolutely amazing signing considering how he's been flourishing in his new found position, a position we could well do with signing someone in, he's still only 22, wouldn't cost a transfer fee and yet I don't see his name ever mentioned. He's being linked with the usual, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Bayern etc, but I really hope we are looking at him for the summer.

Anyone here a more regular watcher of the Bundesliga with their own opinion?
 
Bojan11 said:
How so? He was always going to choose Bayern over us.
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We probably could have tried going for him earlier. Anyways that ship has sailed.

Back to Meyer. Haven't followed him this season at all and interesting to know how he's doing deeper in midfield. He's definitely one to keep an eye on.
 
CDM? Xavi Alonso mould? Free? If we aren’t in for him..
 
Not sure he's physical enough to play that role for Mourinho.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Bayern bound sadly
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He isn't.

Inigo Montoya said:
Is he? I thought he was more attacking. They seem to think he's more talented than Draxler
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Tedesco moved him back into defensive midfield ahead of a 3 man defense this season, and he's apparently flourished in the role.

I'd still be careful with the 'world class' label for a player that has played a position less than a year.
 
When it comes to German players choosing desired destinations, I think we're fairly low down on the list of preferences. Bayern is the dream, with Klopp being a decent incentive in the EPL.
 
It looks like Bayern are trying to reshape their midfield with Vidal getting older and Sanches being a flop (thank feck we didn’t sign him) and also Martinez always injured so seeing as they’ve never replaced Xabi Alonso I can see Meyer going to Bayern.

With Tolisso, Goretzka, Vidal, Thiago and then maybe Meyer you’d gave to say Bayern would have the best midfield in the game. If they get around to replacing Robben and Ribery with quality as well then they’d be some force in Europe again.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
He isn't.
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And I don't think Bayern fans would be clamouring to sign him as well. Don't know what Meyer is upto rejecting the contract as I wouldn't think many teams bigger than Schalke would be wanting him. Though I'm sure Meyer's agent would have had conversations with other clubs that he has decided to reject a contract so soon before the end.

Most rumours have been originating from Spurs but I have fears that he'l fall under the same tragectory as Hotlby. He may get some minutes if Spurs are planning to use him to replace Eriksen but if that's not the case then I don't see him getting many minutes there. His role right now is more similar to Dembele though, but he lacks the physical presence of the Belgian to effectively replace him.

He's hardly an Alonso though, doesn't have the long range passing ability Xabi had.
 
Been linked with Liverpool too. Makes sense as we are also looking at Jorginho who plays a similar role.
 
davidmichael said:
It looks like Bayern are trying to reshape their midfield with Vidal getting older and Sanches being a flop (thank feck we didn’t sign him) and also Martinez always injured so seeing as they’ve never replaced Xabi Alonso I can see Meyer going to Bayern.

With Tolisso, Goretzka, Vidal, Thiago and then maybe Meyer you’d gave to say Bayern would have the best midfield in the game. If they get around to replacing Robben and Ribery with quality as well then they’d be some force in Europe again.
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This post is so weird, and so so wrong.
Also, we won’t go for Meyer.
 
hasanejaz88 said:
And I don't think Bayern fans would be clamouring to sign him as well. Don't know what Meyer is upto rejecting the contract as I wouldn't think many teams bigger than Schalke would be wanting him. Though I'm sure Meyer's agent would have had conversations with other clubs that he has decided to reject a contract so soon before the end.

Most rumours have been originating from Spurs but I have fears that he'l fall under the same tragectory as Hotlby. He may get some minutes if Spurs are planning to use him to replace Eriksen but if that's not the case then I don't see him getting many minutes there. His role right now is more similar to Dembele though, but he lacks the physical presence of the Belgian to effectively replace him.

He's hardly an Alonso though, doesn't have the long range passing ability Xabi had.
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Yes, Bayern won't go for him.

I have to say though that this new Meyer incarnation as as a defensive midfielder with playmaking abilities does sound intriguing, and should be interesting for a number of clubs. It's a vital position, both in a 4-3-3 and in the current trend of 3-man defense formations, where many clubs can improve, prominently among them Liverpool. That's also why I think if he's not renewing, he'll go to England, Liverpool, or Spurs sound likely.

I haven't watched Schalke enough to have a strong opinion of his quality in that role, I was surprised about this remake as I even found him a bit too lightweight and physically unremarkable for his former AM role, but it looks like he has become sturdier and pretty aggressive and seems to be doing very well as a DM.

Not for Bayern, as at this point there's no reason yet to think he'd be an upgrade on Rudy who isn't seeing game time himself, but being a free agent he will have options that could be potentially more attractive than Schalke.
 
German player.. That means we have a chance only if Bayern don't lap him up.
 
Cristiano Lell said:
Yes, Bayern won't go for him.

I have to say though that this new Meyer incarnation as as a defensive midfielder with playmaking abilities does sound intriguing, and should be interesting for a number of clubs. It's a vital position, both in a 4-3-3 and in the current trend of 3-man defense formations, where many clubs can improve, prominently among them Liverpool. That's also why I think if he's not renewing, he'll go to England, Liverpool, or Spurs sound likely.

I haven't watched Schalke enough to have a strong opinion of his quality in that role, I was surprised about this remake as I even found him a bit too lightweight and physically unremarkable for his former AM role, but it looks like he has become sturdier and pretty aggressive and seems to be doing very well as a DM.

Not for Bayern, as at this point there's no reason yet to think he'd be an upgrade on Rudy who isn't seeing game time himself, but being a free agent he will have options that could be potentially more attractive than Schalke.
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While I agree it is intriguing, my point exactly is that it is only intruiguing as of now and there isn't any substantial evidence to suggest that he can be a succesful player there long term.

Regarding his role in the team, if I'm being honest, from the matches I've seen, it's hard to pick any players role because of how convoluted Tedesco's formation is. It is a 3-4-3, also sometimes 3-4-2-1, but then he has players like Stambouli playing sometimes as the CB and then basically throws in midfielders to play in the center (Meyer, Goretzka, Harit, Stambouli, Di Santo, Embolo to name a few). It's really hard to pick a certain role a player there has to play, it seems everyone is playing off each other and constantly switching positions, a very fluid formation in midfield.

It's a reason why I'm very skeptical of how Meyer will do outside of Schalke, in a formation where he might have a more specific role and may not have players switching positions with him, covering his defensive defiencies. In a way Schalke's formation in midfield is similar to Liverpool's with all 3 midfielders being similar and thus neither having a very specific role; whether that's to the detriment of the team is a seperate question. Maybe Liverpool would be a likely destination then.
 
hasanejaz88 said:
It's a reason why I'm very skeptical of how Meyer will do outside of Schalke, in a formation where he might have a more specific role and may not have players switching positions with him, covering his defensive defiencies.
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So you would say then that there are defensive deficiencies to his game as a six that have to be covered for? When I watched, he at least seemed to have surprisingly good timing and aggression in challenges.
 
hasanejaz88 said:
While I agree it is intriguing, my point exactly is that it is only intruiguing as of now and there isn't any substantial evidence to suggest that he can be a succesful player there long term.

Regarding his role in the team, if I'm being honest, from the matches I've seen, it's hard to pick any players role because of how convoluted Tedesco's formation is. It is a 3-4-3, also sometimes 3-4-2-1, but then he has players like Stambouli playing sometimes as the CB and then basically throws in midfielders to play in the center (Meyer, Goretzka, Harit, Stambouli, Di Santo, Embolo to name a few). It's really hard to pick a certain role a player there has to play, it seems everyone is playing off each other and constantly switching positions, a very fluid formation in midfield.

It's a reason why I'm very skeptical of how Meyer will do outside of Schalke, in a formation where he might have a more specific role and may not have players switching positions with him, covering his defensive defiencies. In a way Schalke's formation in midfield is similar to Liverpool's with all 3 midfielders being similar and thus neither having a very specific role; whether that's to the detriment of the team is a seperate question. Maybe Liverpool would be a likely destination then.
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Seems tailor-made for Liverpool, especially if Emre Can goes to Juve. Wonder where he sits in Liverpool's list vis-a-vis Seri.

Sometimes I wish we could take a punt on a player like this, but Jose has his archetypes and prefers specialists over multi-tools. Could Meyer actually more B2B instead of CDM?
 
Good player but not suited to United.

Most German players aren’t IMO. With the exception of Hummels, Muller and Boateng. I just can’t see any other Germans excelling at United.
 
Is he really a player who is worth to do everything to get him before everyone else though? I would have rathered us to sign Goretzka than Meyer. Bayern can have him too.
 
Jaybomb said:
Sane is a City player so never gonna happen.

Kroos might be too slow for the Premier League in my opinion. Especially paired with Matic.

Khedira would suit us though.
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Khedira is slow too. He might be even slower than Kroos. Juventus fans want him gone because he is too slow and that's in Italy. He looked like a grandpa against Dembele and Eriksen. Not really sure why we would go for him when we have Matic.

What we need is someone like KdB, Silva or Eriksen. A player that dictates the tempo and distributes to our front 3 and Pogba. We don't have anyone like that in our squad, the closest is probably Mata. Current Mata though is a tier or two below the top and thats not good enough for a club like us.

It's imo our biggest need if our goal is to dominate games and play entertaining football like the rest of the top 4. It's one of the things that we badly lack compared to those other top teams.
 
There's a guy who follows Schalke on one of the Villa forums. Talk to him about Meyer and he just dosen't think he's that good or not since he came back from a bad injury.

Certainly dosen't think he's elite club level.

Remember when Lewis Holtby was all the rage a few years ago.
 
FootballHQ said:
There's a guy who follows Schalke on one of the Villa forums. Talk to him about Meyer and he just dosen't think he's that good or not since he came back from a bad injury.

Certainly dosen't think he's elite club level.

Remember when Lewis Holtby was all the rage a few years ago.
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Correct. I can understand Goretzka's move, not renewing and then going to a better club. He has performed to earn that move, similar to Matip and Kolasinac. Meyer hasn't been as consistently good or important as them.
 
So Bayern is tapping Bundesliga talent by telling them not to renew their contracts?
 
SwSw said:
So Bayern is tapping Bundesliga talent by telling them not to renew their contracts?
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I think it has more to do with Schalke's incompetence in that regard. Matip, Kolasinac, Goretzka and Meyer. Only of them is heading to Munich so far. I doubt Munich are interested in Meyer.
 
bucky said:
I think it has more to do with Schalke's incompetence in that regard. Matip, Kolasinac, Goretzka and Meyer. Only of them is heading to Munich so far. I doubt Munich are interested in Meyer.
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Doubt it's incompetence in any way. More likely a case of the players knowing they can get paid better elsewhere and willing to take the risk of running down the contract.
 
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