Not the first time, not the last timeIt was all really stupid. For a manager that has no room for stupid mistakes too.
He also added that he had no regrets, too.Gosh. That’s shocking.
Who's to say that a gassed Mainoo wouldn't have been responsible for goals too?It costed us 2 conceded goals. Diabolical DCM performance from McTominay, one of his all time worst.
The only positive from this game was the fact, that we saw Amad - he is significantly better than Antony by all accounts.
Come on mate, I thought no-one would defend this sub, but hey.I think he’s just gambled and throwing on your leading goal scorer in the league, in a league game, isn’t that wild of a gamble. Hindsight is a wonderful tool.
Truly unacceptable. This is so naive and self sabotaging. Did he underestimate Forest? Surely not because you could see in the first half they posed a threat and we were keeping them at bay. It’s almost like at half time ETH just decided to open up the dam and let the water come rushing in.He confirmed it was tactical.
Got to agree this is a show him the door moment, on its own.Truly unacceptable. This is so naive and self sabotaging. Did he underestimate Forest? Surely not because you could see in the first half they posed a threat and we were keeping them at bay. It’s almost like at half time ETH just decided to open up the dam and let the water come rushing in.
Had to replace the 18 year old because he’d played twice in a few days but was okay to leave on the 31 year old who also played twice in the past few days, consistently struggles with the pace of PL, and has to play with a pacemaker fitted due to the heart attack he suffered a couple of years ago.
Not defending the substitute, it clearly cost us the game. Just trying to rationale why EtH made it.Come on mate, I thought no-one would defend this sub, but hey.
I'm sure he thinks Eriksen would offer creativity and so kept him. I'd still have taken him off for fresher legs. Obviously it was a wrong decision.Had to replace the 18 year old because he’d played twice in a few days but was okay to leave on the 31 year old who also played twice in the past few days, consistently struggles with the pace of PL, and has to play with a pacemaker fitted due to the heart attack he suffered a couple of years ago.
Yeah, I’m not buying it. It was just another disastrous tactical decision to add to the ever growing list. He’s out of his depth and we all know it.
I’ve had a suspicion for a few months now that he’s trying to get sacked for the payout because he knows he’s out of his depth. I think he thought he would already be gone by now so he keeps upping the ante.It's hard to imagine a more blatant act by a manager to sabotage his own team than ten Hag subbing off Mainoo for McTominay v Forest 30 December 2023.
Ya know, with the way this club has been run for years it would not surprise me he's wanted out for a while and the management is so inept and clueless they can't see it for what it is.I’ve had a suspicion for a few months now that he’s trying to get sacked for the payout because he knows he’s out of his depth. I think he thought he would already be gone by now so he keeps upping the ante.
Mainoo is probably injuredis enough for me to know ETH has no clue.
70 million for Antony is enough for me to know ETH has no clue.
Making Bruno captain is enough for me to know ETH has no clue.
Feel free to add your own.
Happy new years!
If you’re good you’re good. Might as well ask why Real Madrid’s squad is so bad that they’re relying on a 20 year old midfielder every game.EtH said he did it because Mainoo had played 3 games in a week and is still a teenager.
The problem is why is the squad so bad that our only holding midfielder is barely old enough to drink.
Wouldn’t that be because the £70m CL winning midfielder is injured? Along with the £55m England international?EtH said he did it because Mainoo had played 3 games in a week and is still a teenager.
The problem is why is the squad so bad that our only holding midfielder is barely old enough to drink.
You mean we specifically bought a player who's afraid of challenges to play in the EPL?Eriksen who is afraid of any physical challenge should have been off
Yep has no steel in him. Never saw him recover balls successfully.Eriksen who is afraid of any physical challenge should have been off
If it wasn't dead alreadyMidfield died that day
Goodness me. Reading that confirms that this guy is an idiot of a manager. "If you look at the first goal it came down the sides. Nothing to do with the central midfielder" - WTF is this shit?!https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...ign=ManUtd&utm_medium=post&utm_source=twitter
They put out a news release on this issue.
Has the club ever commented on a substitution like this before? Has any club?
Tactical to sabotage his own team?So, it was tactical?! Oh my.....
Awful.
You're ignoring the fact that whilst we may not have been in control with Mainoo on the pitch, he was still plugging that hole in front of the CBs in and around the box. It's exactly that which makes it harder for teams to score against us, even when we're playing badly. Remove that and replace him with someone who isn't disciplined in that role, doesn't scan for danger, doesn't track midfield runners, and just doesn't occupy those defensive spaces smartly, and of course we concede to yet another simple pull back to someone in acres of space. I'm not sure how you can't see the link between that sub and us conceding.Bringing McTominay on wasn't the issue for me. Those who said it killed the game need to watch the first half again. Yes, it was 0-0 at half time, but Forest would most likely have scored whether this change was made or not. We had no control of the game whatsoever, and it was all too much for young Mainoo.
Having said that, ten Hag putting McTominay in the single pivot role, when his best moments have come as the advanced 8 in a team that score next to feck all was a very baffling decision to me.
I'd personally like to know why he did this. Other than that, lets not pretend we were brilliant without McTominay. That was arguably our worst half this season.
He has Lost the plothttps://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...ign=ManUtd&utm_medium=post&utm_source=twitter
They put out a news release on this issue.
Has the club ever commented on a substitution like this before? Has any club?
That's not the problem, he can do anything else than McT as dm. He is absolutely blind to the fact that he should never play Bruno and McT together except for a desperate attempt on goal towards the end, even worse, put McT as a 6.So I didn’t watch the game but at half time - many people were saying on this that the game was passing by Mainoo and that he should be subbed.
Because Ten Hagg did it, and we subsequently lost - suddenly it’s as if the decision was completely unthinkable.
Check the match day thread and see the amount of people who were saying Mainoo was invisible.
No, probably not, but he has more awareness about him than McTominay, and may have been covering the position on the edge of our box where the two goals came from.Hannibal as a defensive mid? I'm not sure that's his game somehow.
No one argues that we were brilliant in the first half, but it is undeniable that subbing on McTominay for Mainoo took us from pedestrian to shambolic in the second half.Bringing McTominay on wasn't the issue for me. Those who said it killed the game need to watch the first half again. Yes, it was 0-0 at half time, but Forest would most likely have scored whether this change was made or not. We had no control of the game whatsoever, and it was all too much for young Mainoo.
Having said that, ten Hag putting McTominay in the single pivot role, when his best moments have come as the advanced 8 in a team that score next to feck all was a very baffling decision to me.
I'd personally like to know why he did this. Other than that, lets not pretend we were brilliant without McTominay. That was arguably our worst half this season.
First of all, I don't think McTominay is a holding midfielder, nor should he play there. However, let's not go on like we weren't conceding those kind of chances with Mainoo on the pitch. Let's go back to Villa, for example, McGinn was free in the area and had it not been for Evans, they'd have gone 3-2 up.You're ignoring the fact that whilst we may not have been in control with Mainoo on the pitch, he was still plugging that hole in front of the CBs in and around the box. It's exactly that which makes it harder for teams to score against us, even when we're playing badly. Remove that and replace him with someone who isn't disciplined in that role, doesn't scan for danger, doesn't track midfield runners, and just doesn't occupy those defensive spaces smartly, and of course we concede to yet another simple pull back to someone in acres of space. I'm not sure how you can't see the link between that sub and us conceding.
And who is pretending we were brilliant without McTominay? I haven't seen a single person claiming that.
Most people just seem annoyed by the fact that replacing Mainoo with McTominay made our defence more exposed, which led to us conceding goals. Something that is so fecking obvious and predictable that we're baffled why the manager can't see it.
