Mine recommendations : United's top & medium transfer budget to premier league title
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Anyone know what Kristoffer Olsen is up to these days?
Misleading. I can’t see a recommendation for a mine in that whole post. Just a bunch of football players. I suppose they have mostly been closed in the UK in fairness. I guess that new place in Cumbria wins by default? 
Could definitely recommend some footballers for the mines though.Misleading. I can’t see a recommendation for a mine in that whole post. Just a bunch of football players. I suppose they have mostly been closed in the UK in fairness. I guess that new place in Cumbria wins by default?
Evan Ferguson
My uncle will be interested in this. Please send this to richard.arnold@manutd.com.
I’m only here for the replies
Transfer forum?
Luckyscout doesn't lose anyone; you lost him.
You will realise this once the penny drops a few months from now.
Geez...get a hobby.
Will take me that long to finish reading the post
Any mine recommendations for FA Cup Final. Preferably something which Haaland can step on in the first minute itself
tldr but please change mine to my
So your recommendations are basically players who the media have linked us for months and no actual new player recommendations
Just scrolling past the OP took longer than reading all the other 39 posts on that page.
I like LuckyScout you guys are lame
One of my favourite posters on the caf and i have not yet managed to read through one of these essays.
Incredible stuff really!
Incredible stuff really!
Tldr.
History shows that clubs that fixated into winning something usually ends up not winning it at all. We had Liverpool of the 90-2000s obsessed with the EPL and of course Juventus and PSG with their obsession of the CL. That's because short cuts are taken (ex buying Ronaldo or Messi) instead of building the foundations to success which of course require more time for better benefits. Bringing too many players in is not a wise option either. It would disrupt the dressing room. Finally we need to take into account years of bad management. For example it would be almost impossible to sell Sancho or Martial considering their salary. There's also the argument of homegrown players that need to be taken in account here.
Thus here is what I think
GK: DDG must be kept at this point however as ETH said a cover/competition should be on the cards. Meslier could be that good cover/competition/future successor we need. He's young, his distribution of the ball is quite good and Leeds got relegated which means that his price will probably go down. Raya and the Ukranain giant Trubin could be great alternatives and both are with 1 year left in their contract.
Defence: Jones is set to leave. Hopefully he'll be joined by the likes of Maguire, Bailly and Telles. If money is not an issue then Kim Min Jae is a non brainer. He's one of the finest CBs in the Serie A and his minimum fee clause makes him pretty value for money. If money is an issue then I'd suggest free transfer Ndicka.
DM: I think that we need to bring in a cover/competitor/future successor for Casemiro. My favourite would be Rice. He is young, he's future captain material, he's homegrown and his distance covered and interceptions are off the charts. Rice can play both alongside Casemiro or cover for him. However at a rumoured 100m fee that option is out of the window if we're going cheap. In that case I'd have a closer look at Ndidi. Once a hot property he's form had nosedived lately (same as most of Leicester fc team). However at a good price he'd be worth a punt. Another player that deserves a close look is Abdul Samed Salis. The guy is a real engine and his passing ability is quite good
MC: We need a competitor/replacement for Eriksen. As a cheap option Tielemans might do the trick. If we can spend good money then maybe we can have a look at Milinkovic Savic whose assists and goals from CM is off the charts. With 1 year left in his contract, Lazio might finally negotiate a good deal at this point
STK: We need 2 strikers actually as Martial is always injured. Considering that there's no striker out there worth spending 100m upon then my strategy would be the following. I'd bring Benzema on a free to provide experience and goals. I'd sent Greenwood on loan for a year to a club were he can score ample goals (Dutch league under RVN?). That would boost his reputation which in turn would increase his value (if we're determined to sell) or might pave a way back to United (please lets not turn this in a Greenwood debate). Then I'd go for a young striker. Hojlund, Muani or David should do.
What I would consider a great window
Top end: Meslier, Kim Min Jae, Rice, Milinkovic Savic, Muani, Benzema
Low end: Raya, Ndicka, Salis/Ndidi, Tielemans, Benzema, Hojlund/David.
Thus here is what I think
GK: DDG must be kept at this point however as ETH said a cover/competition should be on the cards. Meslier could be that good cover/competition/future successor we need. He's young, his distribution of the ball is quite good and Leeds got relegated which means that his price will probably go down. Raya and the Ukranain giant Trubin could be great alternatives and both are with 1 year left in their contract.
Defence: Jones is set to leave. Hopefully he'll be joined by the likes of Maguire, Bailly and Telles. If money is not an issue then Kim Min Jae is a non brainer. He's one of the finest CBs in the Serie A and his minimum fee clause makes him pretty value for money. If money is an issue then I'd suggest free transfer Ndicka.
DM: I think that we need to bring in a cover/competitor/future successor for Casemiro. My favourite would be Rice. He is young, he's future captain material, he's homegrown and his distance covered and interceptions are off the charts. Rice can play both alongside Casemiro or cover for him. However at a rumoured 100m fee that option is out of the window if we're going cheap. In that case I'd have a closer look at Ndidi. Once a hot property he's form had nosedived lately (same as most of Leicester fc team). However at a good price he'd be worth a punt. Another player that deserves a close look is Abdul Samed Salis. The guy is a real engine and his passing ability is quite good
MC: We need a competitor/replacement for Eriksen. As a cheap option Tielemans might do the trick. If we can spend good money then maybe we can have a look at Milinkovic Savic whose assists and goals from CM is off the charts. With 1 year left in his contract, Lazio might finally negotiate a good deal at this point
STK: We need 2 strikers actually as Martial is always injured. Considering that there's no striker out there worth spending 100m upon then my strategy would be the following. I'd bring Benzema on a free to provide experience and goals. I'd sent Greenwood on loan for a year to a club were he can score ample goals (Dutch league under RVN?). That would boost his reputation which in turn would increase his value (if we're determined to sell) or might pave a way back to United (please lets not turn this in a Greenwood debate). Then I'd go for a young striker. Hojlund, Muani or David should do.
What I would consider a great window
Top end: Meslier, Kim Min Jae, Rice, Milinkovic Savic, Muani, Benzema
Low end: Raya, Ndicka, Salis/Ndidi, Tielemans, Benzema, Hojlund/David.
Always appreciate these threads. Sometimes those hidden gems like Kane and Rice go under the radar.
Thanks for a right laugh!
Since Harry Kane obviously is Alan Shearer, doesn't that mean that Shearer has scored almost 500 PL goals? That's very impressive.
I think you may be on to something. We should get him. Voodoo reincarnation practices be damned.
TL;DR We should buy good players.
Except if you are devilish, in which case we should buy overrated players, or ones past their best.
Except if you are devilish, in which case we should buy overrated players, or ones past their best.
@LuckyScout78 you’re an animal - your posts are a real treat.
Lot to digest here. Here's my few cents.
Raya, KMJ & Rice are solid options.
Trubin isn't good enough. Kovar for 2nd/3rd GK.
SMS is the new Sneijder, it won't ever happen.
Ndicka will end up at Bayern.
Muani will end up at Bayern.
Hojlund will go to one of the Milan teams.
David?? Nah, should have got Jesus last year.
Never heard of Salis, must look him up.
Leicester players can stay there.
Tielemans is a fat plodder.
RVN is no longer at PSV.
Benzema is signing a new deal at Real.
Meslier is shite.
Money doesn't win championships. Good cheating...err...coaching does.
This reads like a buffet.
That Kane fella seems a talent but everyone can look good in a youtube video
I'm guessing you did a few lines of Charlie and some Red Bull before writing that?
I had to put it on 'Text-to-Speak' to finish it.
Reminds me of that Friends scene where Ross goes. " 18 pages..FRONT AND BACK!!"
I had to put it on 'Text-to-Speak' to finish it.
Reminds me of that Friends scene where Ross goes. " 18 pages..FRONT AND BACK!!"
I swear he just gets excited about he players we are linked with (and that are already being discussed in the the transfer forum) and posts it as his facts.
Here's how I see it:
- We're at least 8 new players short of being a PL title calibre team: Two goalkeepers, a CB, at least one RB, two CMs and two strikers.
- That's an investment in the area of 3-400 million
- It's highly unlikely that we have a 100% hit rate in the purchases if we make. If we do really well, we get it right with 3 of 4 players. If so, then we're talking about a 4-500 million investment before we're there.
- That sounds a lot like three good summer windows worth of investment. By the time we've done that, it is likely that Casemiro, Eriksen and Varane will need replacing additionally, and Bruno will be heading into post-peak.
Conclusion: We're not strong title contenders any time soon.
Now, someone please convince me I'm wrong.
I admire the length but what about the girth
You’re wrong.Here's how I see it:
- We're at least 8 new players short of being a PL title calibre team: Two goalkeepers, a CB, at least one RB, two CMs and two strikers.
- That's an investment in the area of 3-400 million
- It's highly unlikely that we have a 100% hit rate in the purchases if we make. If we do really well, we get it right with 3 of 4 players. If so, then we're talking about a 4-500 million investment before we're there.
- That sounds a lot like three good summer windows worth of investment. By the time we've done that, it is likely that Casemiro, Eriksen and Varane will need replacing additionally, and Bruno will be heading into post-peak.
Conclusion: We're not strong title contenders any time soon.
Now, someone please convince me I'm wrong.
COULD be done in the next two windows whether that be this summer and January or the next two summer windows.
We are not that far away IF we have a hit rate on incomings like last summer where they are more successful than not.
Are biggest problem is our back-up players being miles off the quality of the first XI and them all becoming too tired and unable to perform
Thanks, but not convinced.
An investment of that size is very unlikely to happen in two seasons, let alone two windows, in my view.Hit rate: City is not far away from 100%. The other big 6 clubs are typically at around 50%, if you look at it over longer periods (say, 3 seasons). We don't really know yet that even our amazing last summer window will turn out much better than that - Martinez and Casemiro are clear hits, but jury's still out on Malacia and Antony.
This thread is on its way to being part of the classics soon
Yeah, I agree but I don’t think we need to spend that much. I’d be very happy to say that an out and out, world class number 9, especially Kane, elevates us one step to a team who ges 80+ points, which is where i think our realistic ambition for 23/24 should really be.Thanks, but not convinced.
Hit rate: City is not far away from 100%. The other big 6 clubs are typically at around 50%, if you look at it over longer periods (say, 3 seasons). We don't really know yet that even our amazing last summer window will turn out much better than that - Martinez and Casemiro are clear hits, but jury's still out on Malacia and Antony.
Add in another CB of Varane/Martinez quality along with a world class CM who can play alongside Casemiro and I think we should probably then be knocking on the door again.
I appreciate that it is all ifs, buts and maybes mixed in with a load of conjecture and personal opinion/preference but this is the first time in years that I think we’ve genuinely taken 2/3 steps forward and not followed it up with the same amount of steps plus one backwards.
ETH has done bigger and better things for this club/team than anyone else in the past 10 seasons and a lot more than he is getting credit for.
Bolster the squad so that he is happy to rotate more and I believe that it a massive positive, and I am the least optimistic United fan you’ll meet.
Writing posts like this makes me feel a bit weird
OP is Irish burner account. Funny but breaks the rules.
I share the sentiment about Ten Hag, but there's just too many gaps that need filling, by the look of it. If it's really a 100m window this summer, and it looks like it will be, that'll barely maintain momentum.