You are right! Losing is not a problem, losing against a big team playing in such a way was painfull. Although, Ajax was lucky to reach the final. And yes I am a fan of de Boer, but he talks too much sometimes! I like that and I don't understand why Mourinho is upset about this.Jose has traumatized a large Ajax contingent I see
Mourinho vs De Boer: Clash of Words
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Even then, protecting your players like that is different to excessively responding to minor personal criticism. The point Mourinho made is exactly the reason he shouldn't feel the need to respond. He's one of the most successful managers in the history of the game, and post-Ajax De Boer is one of the least. Mourinho should be so far above the things De Boer says in a pointless BT segment that Mourinho's over-the-top response, however funny or true it is, only comes across as a result of some sort of insecurity that a man in his position and of his stature shouldn't have.
Like Fergie when he got out of a sentence for using the hard shoulder by saying he really needed to shit?
@Ajaxsuarez put his finger on it I think. It is funny. It is true. But it makes him look insecure.
surely if someone in your whatsapp group responded like this to something so pointless you'd respond with the fish-on-a-rod emoji.
Oh come off it. De Boer made a stupid comment about the Rashford thing, Mourinho had every right to lash out. What you're saying is it's ok for people to say negative things about him but he shouldn't defend himself?!
Well he’s protecting player in this instance too, saying Rashford shouldn’t be taking any advice from management failures.
I'm glad he responded, when I first heard the comments after the game I thought he was well off the mark. Jose has managed Rashford well.
If United loses, it's Mourihno's fault; and if United wins, then it was ugly and not entertaining.
If a player plays badly, it's Mourihno's fault; and if the player plays well, then it's a shame that Mourihno is the manager because he doesn't play him every game.
If Liverpool wins, it's because they are fantastic and Klopp is a genius. If Liverpool loses, it's Mourihno's fault for not letting them play how they want and ruining everyone's fun.
If a player plays badly, it's Mourihno's fault; and if the player plays well, then it's a shame that Mourihno is the manager because he doesn't play him every game.
If Liverpool wins, it's because they are fantastic and Klopp is a genius. If Liverpool loses, it's Mourihno's fault for not letting them play how they want and ruining everyone's fun.
De Boer wasn't giving Rashford advice in any way
Yes, being outclassed by the sixth best team in England (at the time) was probably hard to take.
I don't understand why you're upset at Mourinho's remarks. He called out FDB, as was his right.
From what I've read, the Dutch are way more candid and direct (is there any truth in that btw?) than one might be used to, so maybe there was no malice in what he said. He just didn't sugar-coat it.
And though I would like to see Rashford start a little bit more than he currently does, I am not too keen to overburden him just yet lest he suffers from burnout, or serious injuries as Owen, Joe Cole and others did. So I have to disagree with him there.
As for Mourinho, I have almost no complaints in the way he is utilising Rashford. I just hope he doesn't bring in another player who would be an automatic starter ahead of Rashford.
And though I would like to see Rashford start a little bit more than he currently does, I am not too keen to overburden him just yet lest he suffers from burnout, or serious injuries as Owen, Joe Cole and others did. So I have to disagree with him there.
As for Mourinho, I have almost no complaints in the way he is utilising Rashford. I just hope he doesn't bring in another player who would be an automatic starter ahead of Rashford.
Its implicit in his comments of course he didn’t say that directly...
It's nothing to do with insecurity. He has kept quiet plenty of times - which ironically ignited assumptions that he may be unhappy or is morose about being in United. What he did was stop people from continuing to perpetuate lies or untruths of a situation. It must have got tiring at this point. Boer was the perfect weak link and Mourinho cut him off with relish.
At the very least, it'll definitely make someone pause if they try this again. As an aside, will anyone think SAF insecure when he does it?
I’ve noticed that Jose only responds when the insults are very personal and questions his ability. He also never starts it.
From time-to-time some arsehole tries to tarnish his reputation and he puts them firmly in their place.
Quite fecking right.
From time-to-time some arsehole tries to tarnish his reputation and he puts them firmly in their place.
Quite fecking right.
I will add: De Boer was a head coach/ manager not long ago and PL one at that, so you would have expected him to have more understanding on how much pressure the job is than Jamie Rednapp. For him, to continue this narrative (being baited or not by the host) is inexcusable as it's more disrespect.
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Well, so is Mourinho. Tres candid without a garment sheathed in sucrose.
Speaking of idiotic comments by pundits; what ever happened to the story of Pogba wanting to leave because he's so unhappy with Mourihno? Should have Mourihno not responded to that story either?
Where is the line between "innocent comments" and undermining of a manager?
Where is the line between "innocent comments" and undermining of a manager?
I think it should also be noted that although Jose doesn’t go looking for trouble like this, he does enjoy it sometimes. It’s hardly insecurity or biting when he enjoys reminding people who’s the boss.
He also does have his reputation wrongly tarnished quite regularly, so he’s perfectly entitled to try control the narrative regarding him a little bit.
He also does have his reputation wrongly tarnished quite regularly, so he’s perfectly entitled to try control the narrative regarding him a little bit.
Not forgetting no other manager gets as much abuse as him from the media, whatever he does they dissect and probe for flaws. He's been a true gentleman for us.
Feck me, you got some personal vendetta against Mourinho, all of your comments are full of it and you have completely forgotten to look at how Rashford played entire last season and was his poor form and an inform Martial that Rashford didn’t start many games as last season. And even then, Rashford has been playing a lot considering how young he is.
As for Ferguson has concerned, this might clear your head that Ferguson was as savage as Mourinho when it comes to deal with silly people
David versus Goliath in terms of pedigree of the respective managers. And I'm being kind to De Boer. It could only ever end in embarrassment.
I heard half a story that JM has responded to de boer’s comments,I thought why would you bother,but when I actually heard what Jose said I was glad he did.totally burned him! No comeback Frank !
All you people saying Fergie had class should watch this.
Nothing better than a United manager on a warpath, I say.
Also, it's funny how Jose has to act with class when De Boer was the one who came out with the unprovoked personal attack in the first place.
Mourinho in imperious form atm, just need to beat Sevilla now.
Do Boer made a very personal (and incorrect) comment on Jose regarding Rashford. Why should he sit back all the time and take utter rubbish from biased clueless pundits?
And what’s worse is some of our own fans thinking he lacks class or something responding..utter nonsvse. He only responds to the below the belt comments, so how about getting behind our manager instead of ‘Trying to see both sides’ when one side is clearly wrong??
And what’s worse is some of our own fans thinking he lacks class or something responding..utter nonsvse. He only responds to the below the belt comments, so how about getting behind our manager instead of ‘Trying to see both sides’ when one side is clearly wrong??
You don't remember him calling Jimmy Hill a prat for criticising Keane, then not speaking to the BBC for yonks in his first spat with them?
I love the savage “give no fecks” Mourinho.
Nothing tops Joe Kinnear's rant.
That Liverpool supporter in the first video was amazing!
We won cause we were lucky, HAHAHAHAHA!
They were the ones who got a lucky goal, not us
We won cause we were lucky, HAHAHAHAHA!
They were the ones who got a lucky goal, not us
This is the Mourinho I love and always wanted to see at United.
Up until now perhaps he wasn't completely himself because he didn't have the team to back that cockiness, but maybe now he believes that we are a true Mourinho team and he slowly coming back to his usual self. The special one.
Oh and good luck to Frank "worst manager in the PL history" de Boer in ever getting another job
Up until now perhaps he wasn't completely himself because he didn't have the team to back that cockiness, but maybe now he believes that we are a true Mourinho team and he slowly coming back to his usual self. The special one.
Oh and good luck to Frank "worst manager in the PL history" de Boer in ever getting another job
Can't wait for what response De Boer has for this. Mourinho has ended him.
Mourinho has ended him.the number of people in the world who would have looked up Mourinho's insult and realise it's actually true. This will stick with the idiot forever and be a classic like Wenger's 'specialist in failure'Man oh man can't wait wait for De Bore's response to that savagery. After he recovers from the third degree burns of course.
How does it make him insecure? Comments like this undermine the manager, are capable of putting doubts in a player’s mind. I fecking hate when pundits make comments like this tbh, if a player is content with his playing time what the feck is it to you
Destroyed him.
Rashford did all you could ask of him in that game for me, when we needed to defend he tracked well brilliantly to help Young, got the two goals too. Aside from his rash tackles there's not much you could say against him. That being said - and I'm not having a pop here - but he's been given minutes by Jose and has at times cost us, not by inability, but by selfishness and poor decision making at times. He's young and that's to be expected, but the pundits are only making a real issue of it because it's Jose and Rashford is English I think.
We rarely see the same level of outrage when Martial is dropped, in a season where prior to this game atleast, Martial has been the better player. I think that alone shows you they're somewhat out to get Jose when it comes to Rashford. Also, injuries or not, he's trusted McTominay in some big games already in probably a more important position in these games. It's funny they fixate on Rashford and don't give him the credit for McTominay.
Rashford did all you could ask of him in that game for me, when we needed to defend he tracked well brilliantly to help Young, got the two goals too. Aside from his rash tackles there's not much you could say against him. That being said - and I'm not having a pop here - but he's been given minutes by Jose and has at times cost us, not by inability, but by selfishness and poor decision making at times. He's young and that's to be expected, but the pundits are only making a real issue of it because it's Jose and Rashford is English I think.
We rarely see the same level of outrage when Martial is dropped, in a season where prior to this game atleast, Martial has been the better player. I think that alone shows you they're somewhat out to get Jose when it comes to Rashford. Also, injuries or not, he's trusted McTominay in some big games already in probably a more important position in these games. It's funny they fixate on Rashford and don't give him the credit for McTominay.
He’s been back all season long tbh. Had this swagger from the get go.
Rashford is the only player who played every games under Mourinho as long as he is not injured, week in week out every competition whether he starts or coming from the bench so it makes these pundits look even more silly for questioning
Him being conscious of that criticism of him is actually good for us. In his previous managerial tenures he has been guilty of poor/lack of development of the younger players he's had - which is where most of this stick ultimately comes from. So if he's aware/insecure of that fact he'll try to prove a point here.
I don't mind our managers having a personal chip on their shoulders, as long as it works to our benefit.