Moussa Sissoko | Dumb as they come

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Bought from Newcastle for 35m 2016. Struggled until now to get into Poch's Spurs team. A powerhouse of a player! Always rated him since I saw him representing his country in Euros 2016. How Spurs have managed to keep the player amazes me. He's 29 now. A Mourinho player if ever I've seen one. Too late now but one wonders why we've never shown any interest in the player.
 
Yeah, he's really not that good but once he gets running with the ball he can be unstoppable at times. I think he showed it best at the Euros.
 
Really weird thread.


He's mostly been shite for us, like a total disaster whenever he got on the pitch. Fair play he's in fantastic form but this thread is incredibly premature, at least wait till he's had a good full season.

As for how we managed to keep hold of him .. mate, I doubt we could have got rid of him. You have never shown interest because he was inconsistent as hell at Newcastle, ran about a lot for France and then properly terrible for us until his run this season.
 
Hes always been an exceptional athlete. Always thought he was a poor footballer, Pochettino magic touch?

Way too early to say, too small a sample size.

He's had a few patches in his career where he has looked fantastic before dropping off again. Praying he keeps this up but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't. Happy to eat tons of humble pie though because I was a huge critic before this season and he's been a game changer recently.
 
He's fecking terrible. I remember he was overrated beyond belief on here after he ran around a-bit during the last Euros. Played well against Chelsea and has been in ok form lately, mind.
 
I mean, wasn't there this thing with him at Newcastle that he played his best football in live games and was shite the rest of the time.

Think he is just going through a good spell and I don't think he warrants a "why have we never been interested in him"
 
A physical player, tremendous athlete, poor technique, not too sharp in the mind. Spur's equivalent of Valencia.
 
Had been the worst signing I can remember at Spurs for the money paid but he has been really good this season so if he can keep this up I’ll happily eat my words.
 
Agree with what most other Spurs fans are saying and I would have gladly got rid of him in the summer . This season he has turned it round completely and looks like a completely different player, long may it last.
 
I don't understand how he is typical Mourinho player. I don't remember Jose ever signing a midfielder like him. He is having good run of games, credit to player and coach for that but lets see how it turns out. He is a player who completely relies on his physicality and for the first time he is showing he is decent enough player at 29.
 
I don't understand how he is typical Mourinho player. I don't remember Jose ever signing a midfielder like him. He is having good run of games, credit to player and coach for that but lets see how it turns out. He is a player who completely relies on his physicality and for the first time he is showing he is decent enough player at 29.

Because it's a weird well trodden Caf cliché.
 
Wtf? Why would anyone consider buying that lump of average? He's strong and quick but that's pretty much it. Technically average and has never really contributed anyone worth his move to Tottenham let alone a bigger team.

EDIT: I see he's having a good season this time around. Let's see if he can continue it.
 
I don't understand how he is typical Mourinho player. I don't remember Jose ever signing a midfielder like him. He is having good run of games, credit to player and coach for that but lets see how it turns out. He is a player who completely relies on his physicality and for the first time he is showing he is decent enough player at 29.


I wouldn't say the first time, he's had good spells in his career. I remember his first season at Newcastle being pretty good, scored 2 on his debut vs Chelsea .. he's just always lacked consistency. It's always been obvious that when fully motivated he has assets which can hurt anybody. Sure, technically he's not great, but he can be unstoppable running with the ball.

I think teams have struggled finding a role for him due to his lack of end product. Currently he looks really comfortable, but the other problem is will he stay motivated? That's where my doubts are. Poch is the best manager to help in that respect though.
 
I wouldn't say the first time, he's had good spells in his career. I remember his first season at Newcastle being pretty good, scored 2 on his debut vs Chelsea .. he's just always lacked consistency. It's always been obvious that when fully motivated he has assets which can hurt anybody. Sure, technically he's not great, but he can be unstoppable running with the ball.

I think teams have struggled finding a role for him due to his lack of end product. Currently he looks really comfortable, but the other problem is will he stay motivated? That's where my doubts are. Poch is the best manager to help in that respect though.

I meant for Spurs. I remember his game vs Chelsea very well, thought one of many very good players Newcastle signed from French league. At that time Newcastle signed many players form French league IIRC.

He has that powerful run though, can't argue against that.
 
I meant for Spurs. I remember his game vs Chelsea very well, thought one of many very good players Newcastle signed from French league. At that time Newcastle signed many players form French league IIRC.

He has that powerful run though, can't argue against that.

Ah fair.. yeah for us he's had the odd decent game but mostly woeful. This is the first proper run he has put together.

I think his runs offer us what we're missing without Dembele .. somebody to drive at the opposition with pace and power, drawing in defenders and opening up space. Without him our other midfield options are tidy and pragmatic but lacking that.

And yeah I remember that Newcastle tactic of signing French players, guys like Thauvin came in etc .. wasn't very successful and iirc let to a dodgy dressing room.
 
He’s been absolutely quality this season. He is much better in possession than I thought he is. He plays it simply and is just playing to his strengths. His strengths though are exceptional. Power runs, pace, stamina, work rate, tackling etc.

You have to give Poch credit for backing him and supporting him to turn it around. The guy just improves players no end.

Max credit to Sissoko though. He had the fans on his back and for him to turn it around like he has speaks volumes of the mans character and mentality.
 
Absolute unit of a player.

Don't rate him, he's in good form though. Surprised he's never been tried at right back. His physicality and pace could make him a monster there - although Spurs haven't really needed a right back in years.
 
He had spells like this for Newcastle as well, he'd have 3/4 games where he looked unplayable then he'd go back to being massively inconsistent. In that Newcastle team he was always second best to Wijnaldum. I don't rate him at all but he's having a good season, apart from that he's been largely awful at Spurs.
 
He had spells like this for Newcastle as well, he'd have 3/4 games where he looked unplayable then he'd go back to being massively inconsistent. In that Newcastle team he was always second best to Wijnaldum. I don't rate him at all but he's having a good season, apart from that he's been largely awful at Spurs.

This is the worry for me and the reason I'm still remaining slightly sceptical. It needs to be over a longer period before I go too heavy on the praise.

Right now it's possible he feels he has a point to prove and is ultra motivated, but could still drop off again.
 
He basically steals a living. Ali Dia vol2. feck me I can't get my head around that Poch bought that thing.

Red Cafe the place where John O'shea and Michael Carrick were considered top players and some would consider buying that fraud(Sissoko) but Matic is widely known as public enemy no1
 
Was the forgotten man who was essentially seen as a joke player gone the same way as Jansen and Soldado, looking a total waste of space every time he was on the pitch. Don't think any fans would have been bothered if he was let go for peanuts in the summer. Now, he's been our Player of the Season for me and I'd be shocked if he doesn't end up winning this award. MotM performances in a ton of big games and was again excellent tonight.

Never seen such a dramatic transformation in a player and you have to heap praise on pochettino for it, if the guy could remotely shoot he'd be having a world class season.

Interesting to see what happens with our CM after this season, do we look to bring in a partner to Sissoko and keep him as first choice?
 
Was the forgotten man who was essentially seen as a joke player gone the same way as Jansen and Soldado, looking a total waste of space every time he was on the pitch. Don't think any fans would have been bothered if he was let go for peanuts in the summer. Now, he's been our Player of the Season for me and I'd be shocked if he doesn't end up winning this award. MotM performances in a ton of big games and was again excellent tonight.

Never seen such a dramatic transformation in a player and you have to heap praise on pochettino for it, if the guy could remotely shoot he'd be having a world class season.

Interesting to see what happens with our CM after this season, do we look to bring in a partner to Sissoko and keep him as first choice?

Praise for Poch? Sissoko was excellent for France in the summer so I wouldn't credit Poch for this one

Whilst he's clearly a good player he's a downgrade on Dembele who he's replaced (and as good as Dembele was it's not like he didn't have glaring flaws in his game as well), Spurs most certainly should be looking at better midfielders in the summer
 
Praise for Poch? Sissoko was excellent for France in the summer so I wouldn't credit Poch for this one

Which summer? He's not played for france for nearly 2 years now.
 
He's been massive for Spurs this season, one of the better CM's in the league. Can't even image where we'd be at without him.

He's still utterly useless in the final 3rd, but his engine, athleticism and power in the center of the park has made him essential to Spurs. Big credit to him for keeping his head down, working hard and improving his game to the point he's at now - despite all the criticism. Just an exemplary professional.
 
He's been massive for Spurs this season, one of the better CM's in the league. Can't even image where we'd be at without him.

He's still utterly useless in the final 3rd, but his engine, athleticism and power in the center of the park has made him essential to Spurs. Big credit to him for keeping his head down, working hard and improving his game to the point he's at now - despite all the criticism. Just an exemplary professional.

Yeah, he has had a good season. Would you still want him sold if Spurs were offered 30 million?
 
He's been massive for Spurs this season, one of the better CM's in the league. Can't even image where we'd be at without him.

He's still utterly useless in the final 3rd, but his engine, athleticism and power in the center of the park has made him essential to Spurs. Big credit to him for keeping his head down, working hard and improving his game to the point he's at now - despite all the criticism. Just an exemplary professional.

Really good from a defensive standpoint as well. The amount of times he's tracking back/covering for one of the fullbacks is unreal, he gets through so much work.

His limitations will always be there, but he is aware of them and mostly plays to his strengths.
 
He's been massive for Spurs this season, one of the better CM's in the league. Can't even image where we'd be at without him.

He's still utterly useless in the final 3rd, but his engine, athleticism and power in the center of the park has made him essential to Spurs. Big credit to him for keeping his head down, working hard and improving his game to the point he's at now - despite all the criticism. Just an exemplary professional.

He's not even useless in the final third tbh, decent cross on him and is a bit more comfortable picking a pass, usually from deeper than the final third in fairness but there is some end product at least. Obviously can't hit a barn door when it comes to shooting but he more than makes up for it.

Yeah, he has had a good season. Would you still want him sold if Spurs were offered 30 million?

No chance.
 
He's not even useless in the final third tbh, decent cross on him and is a bit more comfortable picking a pass, usually from deeper than the final third in fairness but there is some end product at least. Obviously can't hit a barn door when it comes to shooting but he more than makes up for it.

He has a cross accuracy of 17% :lol:

That being said he has 3 assists which is 3 more than I thought he'd have as generally whenever I've seen him his final pass is just as bad as his shooting
 
Yeah, he has had a good season. Would you still want him sold if Spurs were offered 30 million?

No chance, could not get an equivalent player for that amount in this market - especially not one who has proven he is this dedicated to the team. Turns out it was a pretty damn good buy.
 
He's been massive for Spurs this season, one of the better CM's in the league. Can't even image where we'd be at without him.

He's still utterly useless in the final 3rd, but his engine, athleticism and power in the center of the park has made him essential to Spurs. Big credit to him for keeping his head down, working hard and improving his game to the point he's at now - despite all the criticism. Just an exemplary professional.

And for pochettino having faith in him. Here at United we have the luxury of have players who are far more gifted than Sissoko, yet our managers doesn’t have faith in them. The performance or Fred and McTominay showcase this, where a majority of our fan taught they were not good enough until recently. These players were not even our first string midfielder.
 
And for pochettino having faith in him. Here at United we have the luxury of have players who are far more gifted than Sissoko, yet our managers doesn’t have faith in them. The performance or Fred and McTominay showcase this, where a majority of our fan taught they were not good enough until recently. These players were not even our first string midfielder.
Weird post.
Our fans not having faith in Fred or McTominay means that Poch sticking with Sissoko is great management?
Pochettino is a really good manager, you don't have to make up reasons to praise him.
 
Weird post.
Our fans not having faith in Fred or McTominay means that Poch sticking with Sissoko is great management?
Pochettino is a really good manager, you don't have to make up reasons to praise him.

Sissoko was never this good before, but Pochettino had faith towards sticking with him despite some of his earlier poor performance. That is what good managers does when they know the player have the ability to improve. Most United fan was calling to get rid of McTominay and Fred, but good managers know what players still have talent in them to help improve the team. Pochettino did that with Sissoko and not isolate him or try to push for his departure.
 
Sissoko was never this good before, but Pochettino had faith towards sticking with him despite some of his earlier poor performance. That is what good managers does when they know the player have the ability to improve. Most United fan was calling to get rid of McTominay and Fred, but good managers know what players still have talent in them to help improve the team. Pochettino did that with Sissoko and not isolate him or try to push for his departure.
I agree with you up until you start bringing up McTominay and Fred, there's just no reason to.
Plus Poch spent 30 mil was it? On Sissoko so he had to stick with him really.
 
I agree with you up until you start bringing up McTominay and Fred, there's just no reason to.
Plus Poch spent 30 mil was it? On Sissoko so he had to stick with him really.
There is nothing requiring a manager to stick with an underperforming player. There are many times where a big name player was bought one season then either benched or sold the next season.
 
Has there ever been a player who has had such a remarkable turnaround?

Eh, I mean the guy has 55 caps for France and was probably the best player on the pitch in the final of a European Championship. He's a flawed player, but he also wasn't some random crap player who just showed up in North London one day. He struggled very badly adjusting to Spurs and Pochettino's system and took a ton of shit from fans and the media in part because of the nature of his transfer, but he's stuck with it (and Poch stuck with him) and he's showing the qualities he always had.