I think people are holding out to see what happens this weekend. Reports are swirling that Stern is about to lay down the law and that the best deal that the players will ever get from this point on will be offered this weekend. It'll only get worse from here.
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I wonder if NBA players are going to come out and call the commish names and whatnot like the NFL thugs did.
If they want to. But Stern knows where all the bodies are because he put a lot of them there himself. Or some other apt catchy phrase.
Wade acted like a child the other day.
I think he was pushed by the NBPA to do that.. He is not one who says such things, but he is a team player who is willing to sacrifice for the team..
Mavs!
So Bryant on his way to Bologna.
Good move for him, espcially coz he speaks italian.
Good move for him, espcially coz he speaks italian.
Parker will play in France.
For less than $2k per month while his union buddies battle over millions.
Tbf he is VP of the team....
First two weeks of the season are canceled. NBA says further negotiations will have to take into account the losses caused by this cancellation.
I think it's getting more and more complicated now, but the players position will get only weaker from now on...
I think it's getting more and more complicated now, but the players position will get only weaker from now on...
Stern says the main differences aren't about the money, but about the system.
Cancelling part of the season was expected, question is whether they can save any part of next season.
I'm not sure how exactly the negotiations work or what they are disagreeing about, but I guess there are more divisions on both sides in this lock-out compared to the NFL lock-out.
I'm not sure how exactly the negotiations work or what they are disagreeing about, but I guess there are more divisions on both sides in this lock-out compared to the NFL lock-out.
It seems like an agreement may be agreed shortly, some optimism that something will happen soon and the season won't be lost.
You jinxed it. This is all your fault.
Well that was unexpected, oh well as long we get 30-40 games and playoffs then it's fine by me.
Edit: apparently they are fighting over 2%. The players want 52% of revenue but the owners want a 50-50 split. If thats the reason for breakdown then it's pathetic.
Edit: apparently they are fighting over 2%. The players want 52% of revenue but the owners want a 50-50 split. If thats the reason for breakdown then it's pathetic.
Why hasn't there been an uproar over Gumbel calling Stern a modern day plantation owner trying to hold in his boys (i.e. slaves) yet Limbaugh makes some outlandish comments about McNabb and the media runs with it for weeks?
Double standards.
Double standards.
I don't really mind the lockout at the moment despite how petty it seems to be. Let's face it the season is pretty boring nowadays, 30-40 games and the playoffs would be more than enough for me.
I actually really enjoyed the last shortened season, though part of that had to do with a completely revamped Kings team.
This year it's more irritating because of the timing. Season tickets sold out in Sacramento in what could be the last season and there's no games to play yet.
All regular seasons can be boring as shit in America because there is very importance on actually winning the regular season, except home advantage, which as the Green Bay Packers proved....isn't that much of an advantage anyway.
The regular season is just basically the stat padding season for the best players.
The regular season is just basically the stat padding season for the best players.
Although the NFL is a much shorter season so every game really matters in the grand scheme. The Packers simply took advantage of their strengths and opponents weaknesses in the playoffs and rode the play of a hot QB.
The playoffs are just a lottery anyhow. It's rare the best team (record-wise) wins the championship in any North American sport.
The playoffs are just a lottery anyhow. It's rare the best team (record-wise) wins the championship in any North American sport.
If a basketball season does end up getting underway, would some of you lads be interested in a fantasy league which I will set up on Yahoo?
I definitely would.
Looks to me like the players are about to fold...
It was expected. Once all those car notes, mortgage payments and child support calls start rolling in...
Some excerpts from Shaq's new autobiography:
In New Book, Shaq Explains How Kobe's Sexual Assault Charges Destroyed The Lakers
Stuff with Kobe is interesting.
In New Book, Shaq Explains How Kobe's Sexual Assault Charges Destroyed The Lakers
Stuff with Kobe is interesting.
Marbury blasts Jordan, calls him a sellout.
Stephon Marbury lays into Michael Jordan once again, calling him a
Jordan, who is said to be leading the charge to not only roll back the NBA's offer of a 50/50 split of basketball-related income with the players in their current negotiations but to possibly vote against any reconciliation with the players should the Players Association take the NBA's current offer, is under harsh criticism for what some see as a hypocritical turn as team owner. Especially considering Jordan's notorious rants against ownership from the other side of the table during the 1998 lockout.
Marbury, as you can probably tell, isn't feeling it.
Stephon Marbury lays into Michael Jordan once again, calling him a
Jordan, who is said to be leading the charge to not only roll back the NBA's offer of a 50/50 split of basketball-related income with the players in their current negotiations but to possibly vote against any reconciliation with the players should the Players Association take the NBA's current offer, is under harsh criticism for what some see as a hypocritical turn as team owner. Especially considering Jordan's notorious rants against ownership from the other side of the table during the 1998 lockout.
Marbury, as you can probably tell, isn't feeling it.
I kind of doubt Jordan is actually "leading" the charge. I think it's been allowed to leak that he is because he's still a bigger name/star than any of the current players, so it buys the owners leverage, both in that it's a former player doing so and that it's Jordan.
The players look like they are soon going to cave. We might have a season after all.
Players have rejected the offer and are now going to sue the NBA. From what I read, a lot of people suggested the players should take the 50-50 offer as the terms were not going to get any better.
Now the season looks to have been lost which is a shame but at least it's another year without a ring for 'the king'.
Now the season looks to have been lost which is a shame but at least it's another year without a ring for 'the king'.
If they were going to decertify, this wasn't the time to do it. They should have done it when the season ended IMO. Now it just seems like a desperate effort to avoid losing even more.
This whole thing has been poorly handled from both sides.
This whole thing has been poorly handled from both sides.
I personally am proud of the NBA players union, the owner's proposals were insulting. I agree they waited too long, but they showed good faith by trying to come to an agreement.
Should end how the NFL union legal process ended, on the player's side.
Good for the players for sticking together.
Should end how the NFL union legal process ended, on the player's side.
Good for the players for sticking together.
No, the players are fecking idiots. There is no way they end up with a better deal than this when it's all said and done. No sympathy for either side, but the players have been unbelievably stupid. A lot of them don't even know who their team rep is, or the details of the offer. Incredibly naive and ignorant.
Am I mistaken that the NFL players union got their way after they went to court?
From what I read a while ago, once the NFL players won it became fairly clear that it would set a precedent that the NBA union would also get mediation. Though i only read a bit of it.
How is it they won't get a better deal when the NFL players did?
From what I read a while ago, once the NFL players won it became fairly clear that it would set a precedent that the NBA union would also get mediation. Though i only read a bit of it.
How is it they won't get a better deal when the NFL players did?
two completely different situations. nothing can be drawn from the nfl settlement that would apply to the nba. the last proposal was 50/50 and a soft cap. i think the players have made a mistake. the owners are trying to get things more level after the last contract. so now the season will be lost and when a deal is made it will probably be something close to this deal (if not the exact deal)...maybe a little worse.
Are you sure? I've read several comments from lawyers that say otherwise. The two lawyers that fought the case out for the two sides of the NFL have BOTH joined the players side for this case, and are the lead lawyers, that surely indicated they're extremely related.
Not that I'm familiar with the NFL case, I didn't know they were on strike till it was over.
Not that I'm familiar with the NFL case, I didn't know they were on strike till it was over.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a deal. The season will start on Christmas Day. Not sure what the terms are yet, but I believe they're holding a press conference right now.
Edit: The deal still does have to be ratified on both sides by a vote. Also the schedule will be redone, not cut off.
Edit II: 66 games it looks like.
Edit III: Free agency and camps start on December 9th
Edit: The deal still does have to be ratified on both sides by a vote. Also the schedule will be redone, not cut off.
Edit II: 66 games it looks like.
Edit III: Free agency and camps start on December 9th
Great great news 