New Information On Dianas Death

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New information that alleges Princess Diana was murdered has been passed to Scotland Yard through military sources, according to the Metropolitan Police.
The information, thought to include the allegation that the Princess of Wales, Dodi al Fayed and their driver were killed by a member of the British military, will be assessed by officers from the Specialist Crime and Operations Command.
It was passed to the police by the former parents-in-law of a former soldier, according to Sky sources.


The deaths of the Princess Diana and Mr al Fayed in Paris in 1997 were investigated and examined during a 90-day inquest led by Lord Justice Scott Baker at the Royal Court of Justice in 2007.
On April 7, 2008, the jury concluded their verdict as "unlawful killing, grossly negligent driving of the following vehicles and of the Mercedes".



The Metropolitan Police added the assessment was not a re-investigation and does not come under Operation Paget - the inquiry led by Lord Stevens into conspiracy theories surrounding Princess Diana and Mr al Fayed's deaths.
After the inquest, the Metropolitan Police said it had spent £8m on services arising from it and the Operation Paget investigation from 2004 to 2006.
Former Met Police commissioner Lord Stevens published his report in December 2006, rejecting claims that Princess Diana and Mr al Fayed had been murdered.


Sky's Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said: "We understand this information includes an allegation that Princess Diana and Dodi al Fayed and the driver of their car were killed by a member of the British military.
"The information we're told was passed to Scotland Yard quite recently. It also includes, we understand, references to something known as Diana's diary.
"These are very early days, the information has just come in, and Scotland Yard is adamant in saying that this is not a reopening of its investigation from 2004 when it spent three years looking into the circumstances of the Princess' death.
"But it is taking the information seriously and it is considering and it is possible that a new investigation may open."


Diana, Mr al Fayed and their driver Henri Paul died after the Mercedes crashed in a Paris tunnel on August 31, 1997.
 

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Still piles of money to be made out of this, like UFOs and Turin shrouds, stories that will never die, because they pay the bills.
Yes, after I read this news story yesterday I started looking at some of the conspiracy sites. People have gathered together really obscure bits of information and their dedication to the cause is quite amazing.

I was interested to read about the letter she wrote about 10 months before her death, where she expressed her fears that she would be killed in an engineered car crash. Of course, that proves nothing, but all the same it was an uncomfortable coincidence.
 

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Yes, after I read this news story yesterday I started looking at some of the conspiracy sites. People have gathered together really obscure bits of information and their dedication to the cause is quite amazing.

I was interested to read about the letter she wrote about 10 months before her death, where she expressed her fears that she would be killed in an engineered car crash. Of course, that proves nothing, but all the same it was an uncomfortable coincidence.

What about Diana telling the media weeks before the "accident", that she would soon announce something to them that would shock the world. She never got the chance to announce it to the press.

Way too many mysterious circumstances in my opinion for this to have been an accident.
 

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I have no idea but Kerry agreed with a question at recent speech that it was a controlled demolition.

No he didn't. Here is what he said

I don't believe there's been a formal investigation. I haven't heard that. I don't know that. I do know that, uh, that wall I remember was in danger, and I think that they made a decision based on the danger that it had of destroying other things that they did it in a controlled fashion. Uh, you know, he's part of the construction/reconstruction effort for the memorial that used the land, etcetera. There's been a long tug of war going on in New York, I am not following every aspect of it because it's not in my jurisdiction, so to speak. But I'll check on what the story is. I'll take a look at it based on what you've said.You're the first people anywhere in the country who've called this to my attention.
Does that sound like a smoking gun? He was just rambling on, like John Kerry does. Let me put it this way: if John Kerry had accidentally revealed that 9/11 was an inside job in 2007, do you think he would become Secretary of State in 2013?
 

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No he didn't. Here is what he said

I don't believe there's been a formal investigation. I haven't heard that. I don't know that. I do know that, uh, that wall I remember was in danger, and I think that they made a decision based on the danger that it had of destroying other things that they did it in a controlled fashion. Uh, you know, he's part of the construction/reconstruction effort for the memorial that used the land, etcetera. There's been a long tug of war going on in New York, I am not following every aspect of it because it's not in my jurisdiction, so to speak. But I'll check on what the story is. I'll take a look at it based on what you've said.You're the first people anywhere in the country who've called this to my attention.
Does that sound like a smoking gun? He was just rambling on, like John Kerry does. Let me put it this way: if John Kerry had accidentally revealed that 9/11 was an inside job in 2007, do you think he would become Secretary of State in 2013?



Who said anything about a smoking gun? or that kerry had revealed an inside job?

Thanks for quoting what i said, he said "I think that they made a decision based on the danger that it had of destroying other things that they did it in a controlled fashion".

As I said, I find that pretty weird along with the fire burning temps, verses steel melting point, the look of a controlled demolition.

They now admitted freefall of the building which was initially rejected.

The fact fire has never brought a steel building done before.

It seems strange, the reason why? I have no idea.
 

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Who said anything about a smoking gun? or that kerry had revealed an inside job?

Thanks for quoting what i said, he said "I think that they made a decision based on the danger that it had of destroying other things that they did it in a controlled fashion".

As I said, I find that pretty weird along with the fire burning temps, verses steel melting point, the look of a controlled demolition.

The now admitted freefall of the building which was initially was rejected.

The fact fire has never brought a steel building done before.

It seems strange, the reason why? I have no idea.

Right, that's the reason why I asked what you thought happened in the first place. You say you "doubt" it and that it was "pretty weird". If you aren't implying that there was some sort of inside job then I'm not sure what is so weird about it.

http://www.debunking911.com/firsttime.htm
 

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Right, that's the reason why I asked what you thought happened in the first place. You say you "doubt" it and that it was "pretty weird". If you aren't implying that there was some sort of inside job then I'm not sure what is so weird about it.

http://www.debunking911.com/firsttime.htm


So when I said I have no idea you took that as I thought it was an inside job?

The weird comes from the fact it was not hit by a plane, it did not look very structurally damaged when it collapsed.

WTC 5 was demo'd a few days after 911 and was basically a burnt shell at the time after several days of flames, and still did not collapse until demo'd

Why do loads of engineers bother with the mystery?

What is with that BBC video showing reporting it has collapsed when it is still in the background shot? (could be a windup for all I know) but there seems loads of 'weirdness surrounding WTC7, no idea why.
 

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Yeah, I took it as you suggesting conspiracy theories because why else would that be something considered weird? You're going to have to state exactly what you think happened if you don't want me to draw conclusions from the scattered statements you do make.
 

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Yeah, I took it as you suggesting conspiracy theories because why else would that be something considered weird? You're going to have to state exactly what you think happened if you don't want me to draw conclusions from the scattered statements you do make.


Draw whatever conclusions you like.

I never talked about conspiracy theories, you did.

You mentioned an inside job, you mentioned a smoking gun.

My 'scattered statements' are actually just reports and videos that actually happened, like facts and stuff.

Not sure what you are trying to prove.

I find the whole thing of WTC7 weird that's it, I would love you to show me a concise narrative that makes me feel less weird about it seeing as it upsets you so much.
 

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Draw whatever conclusions you like.

I never talked about conspiracy theories, you did.

You mentioned an inside job, you mentioned a smoking gun.

My 'scattered statements' are actually just reports and videos that actually happened, like facts and stuff.

Not sure what you are trying to prove.

I find the whole thing of WTC7 weird that's it, I would love you to show me a concise narrative that makes me feel less weird about it seeing as it upsets you so much.

You came in here talking about this thing or that thing was weird and how you didn't agree with the official version and all of a sudden it is weird for me think you might be espousing some conspiracy theories?

If you want a narrative, try reading the actual reports on the matter. I'm not going to do your research for you. But when you come in here talking about this is weird or that doesn't make sense, expect to get called on it.
 

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You have called on it with nothing other that shambolic website which is worst than any conspiracy website you might waste your time on.

You have done no research, that's the point it is simpler to just take exactly what is reported even if it seems strange.

I have tried in vain to find a sensible article which shows that the bbc report about the collapse of WTC7 when it is still in the background shot is a photoshop. That is weird, the rest was basically seen while searching to debunk that.

How anyone can take 'exactly how it was reported' when the building is still standing but reported as collapsed is beyond me.

That is at the very least factually incorrect, so there lies proof that you cannot take it exactly as reported.

Edit:- but that does not lead you to believe in smoking guns, inside jobs, aliens or anything else.
 

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I'm with you on this DFK. A lot of the 9/11 conspiracy people go way way over the top with unsupported nonfactual claims but WT7 falling the way it did and the circumstances surrounding it are definitely weird to me.
 

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Predictably this thread attracts nutters like wasps to a bam-pot.


Typical conspiracy nutjob, can you back that up with evidence? Got my doctors reporting showing insanity?

Sorry for the derail back on topic.

No idea about Diana the reports themselves have apportioned blame but I don't think anyone has ever been convicted of anything.

She wrote that she feared a car crash but that could be paranoia, having just watched the white queen I am not going to comment.
 

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I have tried in vain to find a sensible article which shows that the bbc report about the collapse of WTC7 when it is still in the background shot is a photoshop. That is weird, the rest was basically seen while searching to debunk that.

How anyone can take 'exactly how it was reported' when the building is still standing but reported as collapsed is beyond me.
Consider for a moment that it is very common for a television news channel to send a truck out to the scene of a story. That truck has a camera set atop a periscope like device that rises out of the the truck to record unobstructed footage of the scene for hours. The newscast then uses this footage as background and/or filler footage to keep viewers occupied on something other than the reporter or host(s). This type of footage may have been used while the BBC was reporting that the building had collapsed. That they were showing previously recorded footage of said building is a far more likely gaffe than the BBC accidentally reporting the building had collapsed before it actually did or the footage being photoshopped to include it.
 

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Do not care in the slightest, she was a hypocritical old hound.

She was a shallow gold digging airhead, a philanderer, an attention seeker and a fraud. Her charity work was 99% PR, like all royals. She would spend months partying and mingling with the super wealthy, before flying out for a day or two in a war-torn country for the customary photo shoot. And her fans lapped it all up like she was some sort of saint. Of all the cults of celebrity, hers was/is easily one of the most stupid.

Her sons have certainly done well in taking up the mantel of the fake charity PR racket.
 

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I'll never forget her death. That was the day Mayo beat Offaly in the senior football semifinal and Laois qualified for their second minor final in a row. I was in the Cusack Stand and the rain was coming in from behind us! Jesus, it pissed down that day. Shocking weather, so it was.