Jesus, no obvious tide turner here. I'm more a Labour voter through lack of alternatives. Nandy seems po-face, wrong-daily a mood hoover, Starmer dull but may have broader appeal, Thornberry grows on you- has a bit of oomph about her at least.
Next Labour leader - Starmer and Rayner win
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I tend to see you as a natural Lib Dem, let down by the fact you pay too much attention to ever see them as worth voting for.
I don't pay too much attention to them normally but did vote them in December in a desperate remain bid.
I'd see myself fairly centrist to centre left these days all in all, so hated by both sides right now...
Well that's because they're idiots.
I'll be honest, mate, name a political position than isn't currently hated? Those in the centre who have suddenly found themselves less popular, whilst still having the nations biggest broadcaster on their side, are gonna have a hard job convincing anyone they're the unfortunate pariahs.
I don't get much love for being a grumpy socialist. At least you lot get cringy HIGNFY jokes to agree with.
Fair point and my interest levels catered til I saw Emily Thornberry on Andrew Neil earlier.
Schlong-daily being the nation's only hope to unseat the Tories is enough to make anyone grumpy.
I think I’ve used it maybe twice?
Then you should be delighted that I pay so much attention to your posts than I imagined more.
I'm right though. It is tired.
This is not the answer though.
No doubt it is tired. But then again she is a bit crap.
She is not my dream. None of these candidates are anyone's dream.
Apart from the scary people who wanted Jess, obviously.
Yeah I was never particularly fond of Jess as a potential leader. I admire her passion and you can see she cares about her job but I never saw her as leadership material.
Nandy impresses me the more I see of her, but I still get somewhat angry when I think how she voted during the Brexit process. I think it’s a straight race between Starmer and RLB now though and I just hope and pray Starmer wins. I’ve said what I think about RLB so I won’t get into it again but I think she would be a total disaster.
I'm sceptical of the broader appeal of 'Wigan nationalism' but it's certainly a new dynamic.
I think it's high time the party has a female leader. It's a feather in the cap for the tories that the only female PMs are from their party.
Thornberry has a lot of passion and a very gifted orator and on one hand I feel her fighting nature is perfect to combat Johnson, but on the other I get the sense she is polarising in the party ranks. Nandy is my preferred pick because there's the experience of serving in the shadow cabinet, but she's detached enough from the front-bench image of the Corbyn years to rebuild the party, make the party a bigger tent, and also maintain a grip on empowering young people.
Thornberry has a lot of passion and a very gifted orator and on one hand I feel her fighting nature is perfect to combat Johnson, but on the other I get the sense she is polarising in the party ranks. Nandy is my preferred pick because there's the experience of serving in the shadow cabinet, but she's detached enough from the front-bench image of the Corbyn years to rebuild the party, make the party a bigger tent, and also maintain a grip on empowering young people.
you’ve clearly never had a Wigan pie.
Thornberry put me right off with her speech on election night. She blamed everything and anything for the disaster, so I'm concerned the likes of her and RLB will just be same old and include way too many corbynites in their shadow cabinet. And around we go.
Currently due to the options my vote is on Nandy or Starmer. Nandy primarily because I agree it would be fantastic to finally have a female leader, Starmer only if it gets tactical to keep out RLB/Thornberry.
All in all though, I echo what many have said, none are particularily interesting which is a tad depressing.
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The deputy hustings are still on though i think so at least Burgon can bust his Leeds united top out
Questioner : So, Lady Nugee, or can I call you Emily....You say you're in touch with the Northern Working Class and understand their problems.
Lady Nugee : Of course I am.
Questioner : How can that be ? You live in London...In a £2.5 million pound house.
Lady Nugee : That's not true.
Questioner : Yes it is.
Lady Nugee : No it isn't...We had it revalued last week...It's now worth £ 3.25 million...Snigger, snigger...
Some people just love to generalise don't they....
They do.
Bristol Rovers fans have two drinks at karaoke and insist on doing The Wurzels again.
Brilliant. Well done. The 2 drinks have to be scrumpy ciderrrr.
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''Reverse entryism'' really does sums up the media view of socialist politics.
Could be important, but I still think the biggest factor will be whether soft left party activists who voted Corbyn in 2015 switch away from the leftmost candidate or not.
It's pretty much what you'd expect though, isn't it? I mean how many people can there be who would be politically in line with the Corbyn's side of the party but didn't get involved as members during his time as leader, only to now step in after he's led the party to implosion? It makes sense that the more moderate faction is the one being energized at this point.
Starmer has the look of a Prime minister that would feature in a Richard Curtis film.
I wonder how many of the new members are people who rejoined?
I certainly left when Corbyn was leader and if Corbyn in a skirt is elected I won't continue my membership.
Pretty interesting article. How Twitter made Corbyn supporting online activists think their views were more popular than they really were.
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna.../jeremy-corbyn-labour-twitter-primary/604690/
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna.../jeremy-corbyn-labour-twitter-primary/604690/
Get the feeling Long-Bailey will end up winning, and Labour will be fecked for another 8-10 years.
Maybe I'm being overly cynical, but I do wonder if at least some of the "it must be a woman" crowd are at it for this very outcome more than anything.
Long-Bailey and Burgon will ensure Tory leadership for even longer than 10 years imo.
Only one man has won an election for Labour in the last forty years. Maybe it's just time to actually break the glass ceiling of having a woman leader since the men have tried and failed.
I'm not talking about having a woman leader, I'm voting Nandy unless it gets tactical. I was just wondering if some RLB supporters would be pushing that line more to ensure Starmer is out of the running.
Anyway if it largely comes down to them two there's no way I'm voting RLB over Starmer just because she's a woman.
And even if not it looks like momentum is trying to stitch up jobs now and dig in for a fight
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...es-line-up-top-jobs-before-new-leader-elected
You’re all forgetting Corbyn actually won the argument.
Ten out of ten for that one.
Political equivalent of "we won the possession"
We won the alternative league..
Labour's xG rating though
A vote for Corbyn's successor is a vote for the Conservatives.