Noted. I'll try to word it differently from now on.
NonceUponATimeInEpsteinAndAndyLand
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A guy connected strongly to the rich and powerful commits suicide suddenly when in prison, not placed on suicide watch even though he is of utmost importance, could expose those rich and powerful.
But hey you are stupid for believing in a conspiracy in this particular case.
Because people will forget eventually and move on with their lives, as always living like robots.
What distresses me is reading stuff all over where some folks are turning this into Democrats vs Republicans. It's nothing to do with which politician a person likes or dislikes, the main issue is that we have underage girls and/or boys being abused. It could involve even younger children as well. That's what we should be focusing on. I have no problem believing there is a bunch of rich, powerful people involved in these nasty things.
Does anyone here remember or ever read about the Marc Dutroux(sp) case in Belgium? Involved the elites and was blatantly covered up. There was a huge protest about this, yet still, no justice for the victims. I read quite a bit of those witness statements, and it's probably the most horrifying thing I've ever read of what was done to those children. Of course there was a concerted effort by those in charge to discredit the witnesses.
There will probably be a big effort now to suppress any evidence they may have on this Epstein case. It's depressing.
Does anyone here remember or ever read about the Marc Dutroux(sp) case in Belgium? Involved the elites and was blatantly covered up. There was a huge protest about this, yet still, no justice for the victims. I read quite a bit of those witness statements, and it's probably the most horrifying thing I've ever read of what was done to those children. Of course there was a concerted effort by those in charge to discredit the witnesses.
There will probably be a big effort now to suppress any evidence they may have on this Epstein case. It's depressing.
How do we really know he's actually dead?
Conspiracy sites are going nuts over this one. They have been on the Epstein accusations for years and this has fuelled the fire.
Who could have silenced him?
Man now I feel weird because I always disagree with Eboue and I'm totally with him on this. This stinks to high heaven and my money is on Mossad.
Mossad for Bill or Mossad for Donny?
So many dead witnesses in that case. Those people will do anything to protect themselves from justice.
I'd say both tbh. Mossad for Bill to cover up his own participation (probably trump's too though that is less certain), and Mossad for Don in that he is completely subservient to Israel in a way no president has ever been and would handwave away any of their actions, including whatever reason they'd give for killing a broken blackmail asset like Epstein.
That scandal should have brought down the nation and they managed to cover it up with just the dark corners of the internet dissenting now.
Biggest cover up in History. You knew this was going to happen as soon as he got jail. Let's hope he has some secrets he was going to expose in case of his suspicious death. But I doubt it ,Donny and his cronies must have done a thorough cleanup here.
Why do you think its trump?
The people with the most to lose was the clintons seemingly, no?
Why do you think it’s the Clintons?
Aren't all the reports about how bill flew to his island on numerous occasions, or at least on his plane?
I havent seen the same for trump, although i haven't read everything on it.
Well he did fly with him yes, but Clinton’s had the Secret Service with him from 1993-2001 as President and thereafter as ex-President. Trump was just an ordinary citizen when he had contact with him.
There are vids of Trump at parties with Epstein, you must have seen those. Have you forgotten the young girl that made a rape accusation against Trump not long before the election? She withdrew it after death threats to her and her family. There is a link to her statement back on page 9 if you want to read it. That incident occurred at Epstein’s.
Here’s a link to the party vid.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/17/trump-jeffrey-epstein-party-footage-surfaces
No i didnt realise any of the rape/groping accusations were related to this man in anyway.
Is that quote at the end of the article real? What would possess anyone to say that even if it is true? You'd be implicating yourself.
Remember going through the flight logs a couple of years back.... Even Chris Tuckers name was on the list which surprised me.
By this man do you mean Trump or Epstein?
Yes the quote is real but he said it a long time ago, before he knew all of this was going to blow up.
I don't think it's Chris Tucker the actor.
I didnt realise the trump accusations that have been around for years were related to epstein.
I didnt realise there was a relation.
Clinton flew with Epstein without the secret service detail IIRC.
It'd probably be easier to suggest who couldn't given the high profile company he kept.
Yes, according to statements by one of the girls Trump received hand jobs at these parties and they had to wear a rubber glove to do it.
He flew 6 times without his secret service detail and also visited the island, both things that he and his cohorts have lied about countless times. She is a discredited witness who is known to be a paid liar. There is other stuff about Trump though - supposedly his Mar-A-Lago ban on Epstein was a bunch of shit. He is knee deep in this shit too. Dunno why you're trying to damage control for the Clintons
Yeah, there are apparently flight manifests which list Clinton as a passenger but fail to list any secret service detail. One of these was an extensive tour of SE Asia, the other apparently in Africa. Overall he seems to have taken 26 flights with Epstein on 6 separate trips. On five of those flights there's no evidence of secret service attendance and requests for further information have apparently been denied.
That would be Prince Andrew IMO, the person with the most concrete accusations directly from victims and who was reportedly a much closer part of Epstein's inner circle and frequently guest at the island parties (which mysteriously saw all the buildings burn down in a fire in January).
Although there are definitely dozens of rich and powerful world elites that are all quite relieved atm.
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Andrew has long been an absolute liability to the royal family.
No damage control intended but in all the witness accounts that I’ve read I haven’t seen any witness statements mentioning Clinton, have you?
Which witness was discredited? It certainly wasn’t the one who described Trump raping her?
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How many suicides happen in prison (more specifically, the MDC)?
It would be very annoying if the investigation focused on this suicide alone.
It would be very annoying if the investigation focused on this suicide alone.
The Republican Rory Stewart.
BBC: How conspiracy theories spread after financier's death
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49312746
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49312746
He's quite an extreme neocon - perhaps the most pro-intervention senator today. And AFAIK his domestic policy is standard GOP which means to the right of Trump.
His ethnicity and the weirdness of Trump covers up who he is.
Guessing all focus will move on to Ghislaine Maxwell now for answers to this alleged sex trafficking network. Her life expectancy must be seriously low if the elites are tying up the loose ends.
Might end up going the same way as her father.
Might end up going the same way as her father.
Nah MI6 for Andrew.
Under orders from QE2.