Absolutely obvious, in fact I'd say it was the most obvious display I've ever seen of a manager actively trying to get sacked.
Don't think he tries to get sacked. He just got so upset that he went suicide by being overly negative and talk crap. The players did still fight and he made subs to turn games around even during this time. Remember the Juventus game.
Fast forward 12 months and one is perma-injured and seemingly desperate to leave, whilst the other is still a lazy, half-arsed problem. I'm not sure who took the decision to go against Jose but they've got some back bone to think they know more than Jose about what's required from these players.
He was already making good players look like crap, so I'm glad he didn't get the players he wanted. The big mistake was making Ole permanent instead of just the caretaker as he should have been.
First choice Lindelof that is? Plus with Bailly often injured, and Rojo, Jones, and Smalling, as your other option, he was well within his rights to demand a CB again, more so as there was no good reason to deny him one given our net spend that summer.
Not his fault Bailly became injury prone. He was very good in his first season. As for Lindelof, as another poster said he's currently one of our starting CBs.
With hindsight, he was using the squad to win as many games as he could, it wasn't pretty at times, and he was an arse, but if he'd had gone for swashbuckling football we'd have had less points, and that wasn't his game.
Great post.
Chelsea listened to Jose. Kevin De
Spot on, he was calling them out, and suddenly they couldn't wait to get him out of the place, he was such a toxic character it was treated as a victory at the time.. now look at us.
That 10 game run Ole went on.. was that better than anything José produced in his whole time of managing us?
I don't disagree that he did what he could with the squad, but there were clear signs that he wasn't capable of coaching the team to play "swashbuckling football", even if he had better players. I think there were clear deficiencies in the way he was coaching the players, regardless of Ole turning out to be even worse. I'm really glad he's gone.
The squad is mainly weak minded so wanted Jose out, and we bounced big style
Under Jose in last "toxic" months between West Ham(loss) and Liverpool( loss and sack) we played 13 games. Lost only against City and Juve. Had 6 wins, 5 draws and 2 defeats. In most games we scored at least two goals. And all that with squad full of "deadwood"( Ole fans keep saying that).And still had a better record than Ole despite actively trying to get the sack
Well actually, i think that game against Newcastle in which we came back to win 3-2 was pretty damn exhilarating in the 2nd half. It was quick, desperate domination of the kind we never see anymore.
I think it’s clear to see Ole has messed up this rebuild. This culture reset basically Ole jumping on G Nev’s media propaganda.
No it was just Martial and Pogba deciding to step up.
This shit again?
For the sake of your pointless argument, then yes at the time it was breathe of fresh air, but so what?
The whole team did, not just them. It was like they threw the whole gameplan out the window and did what they had to do to win.
Cheers. All I needed to know.
No we wouldn’t have won if they didn’t shift the momentum. The crowd helped a lot too. Old Trafford was electric.
This.
Because it was a weak point, no need to dig deeper for you.
I'll bet my right hand Woodward sold him the same BS he sells the media and us fans, how we can get any players we want and that the money is always there. Mourinho threw a fit when Woodward told him he couldn't have certain new toys.
No need for the aggresive tone, surely? Can one not have an opinion opposite to your own?
That’s the thing, we all have the same opinion about the board for god’s sake man.
That's great but Ole has literally got us in relegation form. I absolutely promise you Big Sam would be at least 12 points better off than we are right now than Ole.
Exactly, if this is the case, what evidence can you go off that the board will get it right this time? As a matter of fact, what top manager out their would contemplate harming their career to come to such a poorly run club? Because of past history? That can only get us so far, we can keep recycling the manager all we want, but one man will never change the course this club is currently on. We are far more focused on financial gain than footballing merit and we will continue on this track until something does change.
They don’t have to get it “right”, I mean, Moyes, LVG & Mourinho (and SAF) all did miles better with the same board.
Neither insisting on a manager that is obviously not suitable for the PL. We're 6 months into the season, and we're not showcasing a coherent style of play.
People keep harping on about Ed Woodward and the Glazers but they've allowed him to spend a bucket loads of money, clear out those who he didn't see fit for purpose all whilst picking up 41 points from 35 games since he became manager. I do agree that most in charge are incompetent but none of our managers can complain about no being backed - they were (Jose could have an arguement for his third season). Ole should have kept Fellaini, Smalling and Lukaku and I bet we'd be significantly better than where we are now.
Again, because you, and others, seem to short sighted to understand my point i shall elaborate again! I have not said Ole is the right man to take us forward, I have quite clearly said their are other problems the club currently have that fans would rather aim their anger at Ole, who again I have not said is the right man, than try and make a change their. Sack Ole if it makes you feel better, but don't moan when you realise a new manager won't change much and they are under the same shit that is currently ruining the club.
