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Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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It was 2.31 - 1.07 to Villarreal on Wednesday. We can’t keep doing that and expecting to fluke a win.
I understand you wish to prove that we didn't create anything today, but this surely this is not the first time that you've seen Pogba/Bruno at the edge of the box with srare pace and time to curl one in and actually score. Opposition teams come drilled with instructions to not let that happen, and we had a lovely move to find that space for Pogba.
Don’t think he was ever getting sacked after finishing 2nd last season. This inners vs outers argument is cringey.
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I'm going to have to disagree there mate, that's bollocks. The reason we won't win anything is because of Ole it has nothing to do with Fred or VDB and this is the problem. Everyone thinks it's just our midfield and VDB is our saviour or if we get a DM we'll win the treble. Fred didn't play one min (in midfield) against Villareal or West Ham in the Carabao and we were worse than we were today.
There's a big problem in our midfield but that is mainly due to coaching and tactics. Bruno plays more as a SS than part of a midfield 3. When we press our front 3 press but our midfield 2 and fullbacks don't press with them or press too late leaving massive gaps between our front 4 (as bruno is usually the one highest on the pitch when pressing) and our midfield 2. Which puts Fred, Mctominay, VDB, Pogba whoever is in our midfield 2 under huge pressure. Due to this whenever teams gets through our shitty initial press it looks like our midfield has been sliced open. (that's usually because Bruno our CAM is pressing the opposing teams CB). Against Villareal was the clearest example of this btw Fred didn't play that game and when he came on he was a LB. But in that game we were overrun in midfield more than any other game this season. We were extremely fortunate to come out of that game with a point never mind 3.
This is also the reason we look better when we sit deep and counter against teams that keep the ball as bruno plays a lot deeper and we don't press as often. Leaving less gaps in midfield for opposing teams to take advantage of.
I'm a big Ole in but tbh he should go. Not because we drew but because how he treated Cavani. The decision to sub Cavani off was very disrespectful to him. He got the balls to bench Ronnie, it was the right thing to do. But if he got the balls he should go all along with that. Subbing Cavani off at 55' when we're leading and he's hardly played from the start of the season, to make peace and keep your superstar happy? That's fecking coward tbh, and really disrespectful to Cavani. I don't think the dressing room would appreciate that either. He should go.
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Nothing, but apparently it is bad for a squad if the contract of the manager is running down.
Completely made up by probably the same people who justify giving Mata or Jones new contracts.
It's only October but you're right, and it's crazy. Problem is, he ain't getting sacked unless we finish outside of the top four and, with this squad, even a rubbish manager like Ole can achieve that. We're more than happy to waste yet another season when it's obvious to anyone who understands anything about football that Ole should be sacked.
Ronaldo, Sancho and Varane, plus the easiest start to the league compared to any of our rivals and we're already out of the title race. Ole's at the wheel.
Would the new midfield player not just be sat next to Van De Beek though? We bought him and the poor lad can barely get a go. Only starting in heavily changed sides and then being the scapegoat when we don’t perform. Ole loves McFred, God knows why.
the result was undeserved though. we should have lost
Utterly incompetent.
Its like having a Ferrari chassis with a rattling Food engine plugged in watching the team.
Ole knew we needed a proper DM and he did nothing.
We will win nothing.
The worst is yet to come.
Easy to say sack Ole.
He never was good enough to manage the club.
The Glazers are using him just as Ole is using what he did as a footballer to steal a living.
Manchester United is a hollowed out shell of the club it once was.
The Glazers wont leave until they have got every ounce of blood from it.
Ole is helping them.
If he really loved the club he should hand the keys to them and walk away.
Its about money for him...and them.
Ole knew we needed a proper DM and he did nothing.
We will win nothing.
The worst is yet to come.
Easy to say sack Ole.
He never was good enough to manage the club.
The Glazers are using him just as Ole is using what he did as a footballer to steal a living.
Manchester United is a hollowed out shell of the club it once was.
The Glazers wont leave until they have got every ounce of blood from it.
Ole is helping them.
If he really loved the club he should hand the keys to them and walk away.
Its about money for him...and them.
Solskjær will always have problems against well-organized teams. He has had it season after season, and even with players like Martial, Sancho, Cavani, Ronaldo, Pogba, Bruno and Greenwood, United can not create enough open goal chances.
Precisely. The squad"s good. No excuses there anymore.
No team in the world other than United gives out charity contracts, but we somehow do it all the time. Mata, Jones, Grant, Bailly and even to the fecking manager.
No. Van de Beek has played like a big fanny. Of all the stick that could possibly be directed at the manager, the Van de Beek agenda isn’t the one I’d be looking to pursue.
"We need to protect their value!"
So it’s ok for Ole to use us to learn the ropes?
Man Utd?
one of the biggest sporting franchises in the world is learning stage for an average manager, even if he wins nothing! Spending hundreds of millions in the process when we could be lifting premier league and champions league trophies
have a word with yourself please
One sub too many today but his subs won it for us on Wednesday. Cavani was way more of a pest than Ronaldo has been for the past few games and should have been left on. Eventually Pogba off on Wednesday and we spring to life. Brings him on and right back to kitchen sink fc and wide open on the counter. It’s all just such a confusing mess at the moment and most of it seems to be our own doing. We easily could have lost that. Conceding chances from nonchalant out swinging corners over and over. Give me strength!
Gutting really.
Gutting really.
I though the sarcasm was clear as water, I guess not
A bit subtle, but he's being sarcastic.
His problem won’t be the fans, it will be Ronaldo. He’s 36 and in his two seasons here he wants to be competing for stuff, not scraping by teams like Everton, Wolves and Villarreal and losing to West Ham and Young Boys.
When you bring a player like Ronaldo in, you’d be naive not to expect a massive amount of player power coming with that.
When you bring a player like Ronaldo in, you’d be naive not to expect a massive amount of player power coming with that.
That's not a good chance for any player on the planet. Simple as that. There's a reason it won't contribute much towards to xG because goals like that aren't scored often.
We created the odd chance but no more than Everton. A draw was a fair result IMO.
He hasn’t played like a big fanny though, that’s utterly ridiculous. Even looking past him though, we had Pogba and Matic sat watching the same two midfielders that we played when we lost to Villa just a week ago.
We can have Kante in midfield and still this shite would be served up.
The guy is an awful manager. There's nothing more to evaluate.
Passion, lots of attacking players, two average DMs and inshallah.
VBD has played much better than Free and McT so far this season, whenever he has been given the opportunity. What game have you been watching if after seeing Fred shitting himself while hitting simple passes, you think VDB has been worse than him or "Mr. Invisible" McT.
Hehe Be careful.... I got a ban many years ago when I suggested Moyes should commit a certain Japanese ritual for his poor performances
He has be killed at red light green light.
Give him time he's still learnig on the job and only needs Rice and Haaland not to struggle against Everton and Villa at home !
No top 4 or Europa league level team would give him the role. Only MU would.
Nah not really but apologies buddy, emotions being raw and all that
I would agree with you more often than not, but today is a poor example to bring that up, honestly. It was the personnel more than the game plan that let us down today. We were slicing them up till they scored and went 5 at the back, and even then Ronnie had his chance. We don't conceded (and in fact, create much more and maybe have one more goal in the bank) if we take off Fred when it is apparent that he's having a nightmare out there. Now that's on Ole, too.
Any post match presser?
Leicester away, Atalanta home, Liverpool home. I think we lose all three.
It's almost as if the excellent job he's done building a squad capable of challenging for the title - which is exactly what he has done - has worked against him. His squad have outgrown his ability to lead them.
Ole is never going to be enough, that's about as clear as it has ever been for me.
Sack him now.
Touche. I liked that
If somebody thinks that we are winning anything with this staff then they are blind or braindead. It's that simple.
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