Agree with much of the post but this myth needs to die. From January to the end of the season Bruno was poor, from sept to December United were poor.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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They are leaking that they won't be leaking Ole out stuff out of respect towards him.
Circus.
Circus.
This will definitely be controversial, but Jose didn't lose the dressing room. Our club lost Jose. Imagine SAF "lost" the dressing room because he called out a couple prima donnas for not working hard enough.
The club wouldn't have sided with the squad, they would've turfed those players off in an instant and found players with the correct temperament. Pogba is the perfect example. SAF didn't give into his entitlement while he was here, and wouldn't have upon his return.
I'm Ole out now because of the embarrassment against some of our rivals showed he can't go toe to toe tactically with the best. Unfortunately, I fear we'd be title challengers if we let Jose stay and manage the past three years instead.
The club wouldn't have sided with the squad, they would've turfed those players off in an instant and found players with the correct temperament. Pogba is the perfect example. SAF didn't give into his entitlement while he was here, and wouldn't have upon his return.
I'm Ole out now because of the embarrassment against some of our rivals showed he can't go toe to toe tactically with the best. Unfortunately, I fear we'd be title challengers if we let Jose stay and manage the past three years instead.
I mean it’s not that hard to understand. There is lots of leaks happening at the moment. So sources don’t believe talks are taking place because of said leaks would be disrespectful to Ole.
Maybe you’re just trying to find any excuse to batter the club with now?
Yeah, it’s hard to find any excuses to batter the blub as it is.
Haha what the coaching he has openly admitted isn't his thing
Yeah we truly are
Yea it's like you gloat in a loss or two but you don't want to see a rival fall so much that it takes a big challenge away for good.
So Ince was right, kinda thought that at the time to be honest
Cool, chaos theory
Apart from sancho, moves and receives nothing. He'll learn
Given the board wants him to succeed and if we get top 4 then I assume they won’t sack him. Right, so we need a DM, a RB and we lose Pogba, Lingard, Cavani, VDB, probably Bailly too next season then we enter the rebuilding phase again? and give him 200m more to complete the process?
Quite sad how this has panned out this season. Feels like a slow wait until the hammer falls, and nobody benefits.
I want to see the midfield training honestly.
We are in limbo mode. Everyone is waiting until he's sacked to start giving a feck again. We need to open a new chapter as we know how this one ends.
Probably. The sadder thing is that I’m not particularly enthused about the new chapter either, in truth.
I know what the Europa League means I'm simply using it as an illustration of what he did. Of course we want to be in CL finals and winning titles but what Im saying is coming 2nd and getting to the final is an improvement on not coming second and not getting to the final. If you are on an upward curve then you add in players and you kick on. Thats my point. Had he done that and kicked on it means a title challenge and CL progress. He hasn't.
Im also not saying fans would have demanded sacking after three months but what I am saying is that there is a strong part of the fan base that will blame the owners and those associated with them for everything that is not going well at the club. People who get not one shred of praise when things are going well will be held to account when they aren't. If we sacked Ole from a position of second place and appointed lets say Pochettino, and we were off to a slow start there is no way you are telling me that the narrative would have shifted to the idea that the incompetent owners sacked the club legend who got us to runners up spot and wasn't allowed to kick on and hired a man who has won nothing? Come on, we know how football works. Im not saying its true but thats the narrative. Just as there is an every growing group of people who never wanted Ole but funnily enough remained silent until this season!
Re. The bold bit. I was one of the people who never wanted Solskjaer to begin with. Hiring a vastly underqualified ex player as manager was always going to turn into a disaster. But what choice did we have but to remain silent? The hoardes of fans who were living in cloud cuckoo land, day dreaming about the legend Solskjaer emulating Ferguson and leading us back to greatness, would've shot down anyone daring to suggest he wasn't the right man.
It was always going to take an implosion for those people to come to their senses. It always needed to get to the point where the players lost faith and started to see through the the "good vibes" manager, and that other than being a nice guy he has nothing else in his locker. Only when things get really bad do enough people react. Until then it's impossible to have rational and constructive discussion about the possibility that replacing Solskjaer would be in our best interests.
Even going into this season off the back of a miserable final defeat in a second rate competition, I could see the narrative shifting during the summer in preparation to defend Solskjaer. The narrative was the poor midfield. That's the problem with trying to argue against concepts like hope and faith, its like an atheist arguing with a priest. You can provide evidence, logic, rational, but they'll rebute it all with ifs, buts, and blind faith. That's where we were with Solskjaer until quite recently. At least now the majority appear to be on the same side.
What time is the presser?
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The coaching staff need to work on team position and movement on a large pitch. I don't think a game of 5's is going to cut it. Let's wait and see what tomorrow brings.
This club is finished.
Players feel he has favourites. I know what I’ll do.. Have a meeting with my favourites.
Remember this is the guy 3 years into a 5 year 'rebuild'. But he is absolutely clueless on what he wants to achieve and how to do it. We have signed some good players, he has refused to sell others, and has zero idea what do with most of them. Shambolic. No wonder we are a laughing stock.This club is finished.
Players feel he has favourites. I know what I’ll do.. Have a meeting with my favourites.
2 of those have been amongst our worst players this season, if not the outright worst.
A good tactical plan would have been working with the players for 9 days rather than going on holiday.
Presser is going to be cringy. I guess he will open with a smile to try and disarm/confuddle everyone. Then he will deflect a load of questions and talk about working together as a team to correct the situation. He will then go on to say wonderful things about his fringe players.
Then tomorrow he will pick his faves.
I want to watch his presser but I will probably turn it off after 10 seconds.
Then tomorrow he will pick his faves.
I want to watch his presser but I will probably turn it off after 10 seconds.
So you agree it is a single blip.“First real blip” fecking hell
We are in the midst of an 8 year blip with clueless owners and board.
Only taken three years. Jesus wept.
Speaking for myself I was on the fence with Ole and thats the truth. I do rate being runners up as an achievement of sorts in terms of progress and getting to a European final in a similar sort of way. Not where we want to be but on the way. My problem was I didn't really know if we got to this point because of Solskjaer or despite him. We do have a good side and there was a list of things that could be responsible for us not quite getting there, one of which was the manager. I feel that we fixed most things this summer so if I doesnt work we can say its the manager. It hasn't worked.....so Im saying its the manager.
The midfield thing just annoys me because I think you put the worlds greatest DM into this side and if nothing else changes I dont think you see any huge improvement. Similarly we have played teams with vastly inferior players who have outplayed us so that confirms that you dont need 11 World Class players if your players are well coached and playing to a plan - something that anyone who watches any amount of football already knows.
So yeah its down to the manager but despite looking back and saying the writing was on the wall I think up to this season there was enough going well and enough ambiguity over what was going badly for him to remain in the job. That has now changed.
Nope definitely not haha
I had a scroll through posts on the first page of this thread and it seems the majority of us were buzzing when Ole’s appointment was first announced back in 2019. A few were even expecting us to win the league.
There were a minority of posters who were skeptical of his appointment but I’m sure none of us would have actually envisaged just how dire the situation will end up being considering the caliber of the players we ended up bringing in versus the performances.
Ole had most of us fooled.
There were a minority of posters who were skeptical of his appointment but I’m sure none of us would have actually envisaged just how dire the situation will end up being considering the caliber of the players we ended up bringing in versus the performances.
Ole had most of us fooled.
Presser just starting. Who's got MUTV to give us the updates?
I was happy when he came in just as an interim but always said it shouldn't go any further than that, knew appointing him before the end of that 18/19 was a disaster
Rubbish presser.. did not really say anything
feel sorry for him now, He is really out of his depth
feel sorry for him now, He is really out of his depth
This is the press conference as reported by M.E.N. by the way.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...chester-united-press-conference-live-22212609
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...chester-united-press-conference-live-22212609
Skirting questions and high levels of delusion. Standard Ole presser of late.
Sometimes you stuck a leg and you win and become a legend?
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