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Well done Ole
Well done Ole
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Love what Ole is saying about Greenwood, but he has gotten the junk minutes so far. I want Greenwood to start a competitive game, he has done enough in the u-23 to get a chance.
”Mason Greenwood is 17 years old. He is a player for me. I want to give him the chance to become a top player at this club”
I love that! How great that must feel for the likes of Greenwood.
I love that! How great that must feel for the likes of Greenwood.
Just don't see it like that, maybe if he'd followed SAF, or followed Moyes, but we're now so far into our mediocity, and after he's choosen Ole over his clearly made up plan of getting Poch and a DOF, (you know a proper plan for once), then no, I don't think we can just sack Ole and do the whole thing all over again, not without a real backlash at least.
Is that preseason dig a reference to Sanchez and Lukaku? Can't really think who else would be holding Greenwood back.
Mata & Lingard play in his position so add them to the list. Add Martial also.
I have faith in ole. I really do think he can turn us around.
It’s almost unfortunate he had such a good start as people inevitably say now it was just a honeymoon period. Realistically he should never have done that well.
He’s going to need a few windows to reshape this squad, but ole is a proper football man and he knows a player. He isn’t going to accept people half assing.
It’s almost unfortunate he had such a good start as people inevitably say now it was just a honeymoon period. Realistically he should never have done that well.
He’s going to need a few windows to reshape this squad, but ole is a proper football man and he knows a player. He isn’t going to accept people half assing.
I’m all for that but United can’t be a learning school for footballers. At Greenwood’s age Rooney was stamping his mark on a team, that’s the sort of 17 year olds I want to see promoted. LVG talked a lot of crap when he was here but one thing I always thought he said with some validity is that any young kids being chucked in have to deliver, in the way Rashford did and Rooney too.
You can say this about the last two managers.
Firstly 99% of what's written about football is false, and secondly if he has said this, why isn't he allowed to say whatever he wants.I find this awkward if true. At the end of the day, Phelan is only the assistant manager. Can you imagine an article saying "Mikel Arteta's preference..." or " Rui Faria's preference..." regarding transfers ?
Also, I find this british obsession nonsense and counterproductive. If you're good enough you're "british" enough?
Michael Owen was also ''chucked in' at a similar age, and did remarkably well, but subsequently suffered injury problems, was that because he played too many games at a young age, no one will really know, and Rooney was a man at 16, and had the build and strength of a boxer (which he was), but Ole will play Greenwood when he thinks he is mentally and physically ready. I can see him getting some minutes in a few games off the bench this season. Pre season will give opportunities for a number of the academy graduates, and also the players coming back from loans. I'm really looking forward to next season already, as I think we will see a much happier, younger squad, with more energy, whether we compete for the top trophies or not, but I believe the following season will be the one where we do compete for the big prizes.
Fantastic quotes. Love it.
Great quotes.
Only a few weeks ago he had a ‘great bunch of players’ to work with but sudden results have called him to question the players publicly and go on record about a clear out, he’s not fecking about.
Only a few weeks ago he had a ‘great bunch of players’ to work with but sudden results have called him to question the players publicly and go on record about a clear out, he’s not fecking about.
Ashley Young is not travelling so that is the 1st sign that Ole is backing up his words with his actions. Next I would like to see Martial and Lingard dropped, with Rashford and Lukaku as a partnership or Greenwood added into the mix for a front 3. I dont want him to name drop academy players and not give them a look in, that's just dishonest.
OGS has already made his mind up about Lukaku. He’s as good as gone. So he’ll barely get a look in with Sanchez fit again. No point in playing an unfit player who doesn’t factor into next season’s plans unless injury strikes again.
I’d love to see Greenwood too, but the fact of the matter is the rest of this season is basically an audition for a few players. So I’m not gonna slate Ole for not throwing Greenwood in. He obviously factors significantly into our plans next season.
feck waiting for pre season!!!!!!
Have you not seen what you needed to see yet?!
Have you not seen what you needed to see yet?!
Not this bollocks again. Some of these lot have been here for more than 3-4 seasons. If they had something to prove they would've done it already. The last two manager said exact same thing
The only reason we don't want to bin half of the squad is because we can't replace them in one window
To me, this just confirms that Pogba and De Gea are off. No way are they sticking around to be surrounded by the usual losers again.
All that talk about survival of the fittest was a load of rubbish.
He would have already known from LVG & Mourinho's years that this is their usual level. Ole said when he first came that he's been following us.
I don't believe for a second that he actually would want to keep them.
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I was actually thinking this too. Ole doesn't need to see them daily anymore to know who should get the boot in the summer. He's been with them for 5 months and it's been pretty obvious before that where problems lie.
You have to admire how authentic OGS is in his beliefs.
I love the whole “survival of the fittest” and “are they hungry enough?” culture that he’s trying to bed in.
If players are just here for the money and nothing else, it doesn’t matter how good they are, they need to leave.
Our success during the SAF era was down to having driven squad players, stable core players and a few world class players. As soon as any of these players showed a hint of stagnation, or were looking over their shoulders at other clubs, or were just too old to compete - that would be it, they would be gone - opening up places for the youth or we’d dip into the transfer market.
It is absolutely vital that our standards do not drop like this. No one is guaranteed a starting place and no one is bigger than the club. This is one reason why I think Pogba should go - it will send a vey important message.
This will take a bit of time no doubt but I do think Ole is the man. He looks calm and collected and I’m sure between him, Mike and Carrick they will have a decent plan put in place already. I’m not expecting any big name signings this summer. I’m expecting signings like Diogo Dalot; young, talented and driven personalities.
I love the whole “survival of the fittest” and “are they hungry enough?” culture that he’s trying to bed in.
If players are just here for the money and nothing else, it doesn’t matter how good they are, they need to leave.
Our success during the SAF era was down to having driven squad players, stable core players and a few world class players. As soon as any of these players showed a hint of stagnation, or were looking over their shoulders at other clubs, or were just too old to compete - that would be it, they would be gone - opening up places for the youth or we’d dip into the transfer market.
It is absolutely vital that our standards do not drop like this. No one is guaranteed a starting place and no one is bigger than the club. This is one reason why I think Pogba should go - it will send a vey important message.
This will take a bit of time no doubt but I do think Ole is the man. He looks calm and collected and I’m sure between him, Mike and Carrick they will have a decent plan put in place already. I’m not expecting any big name signings this summer. I’m expecting signings like Diogo Dalot; young, talented and driven personalities.
You have to admire how authentic OGS is in his beliefs.
I love the whole “survival of the fittest” and “are they hungry enough?” culture that he’s trying to bed in.
If players are just here for the money and nothing else, it doesn’t matter how good they are, they need to leave.
Our success during the SAF era was down to having driven squad players, stable core players and a few world class players. As soon as any of these players showed a hint of stagnation, or were looking over their shoulders at other clubs, or were just too old to compete - that would be it, they would be gone - opening up places for the youth or we’d dip into the transfer market.
It is absolutely vital that our standards do not drop like this. No one is guaranteed a starting place and no one is bigger than the club. This is one reason why I think Pogba should go - it will send a vey important message.
This will take a bit of time no doubt but I do think Ole is the man. He looks calm and collected and I’m sure between him, Mike and Carrick they will have a decent plan put in place already. I’m not expecting any big name signings this summer. I’m expecting signings like Diogo Dalot; young, talented and driven personalities.
I love the whole “survival of the fittest” and “are they hungry enough?” culture that he’s trying to bed in.
If players are just here for the money and nothing else, it doesn’t matter how good they are, they need to leave.
Our success during the SAF era was down to having driven squad players, stable core players and a few world class players. As soon as any of these players showed a hint of stagnation, or were looking over their shoulders at other clubs, or were just too old to compete - that would be it, they would be gone - opening up places for the youth or we’d dip into the transfer market.
It is absolutely vital that our standards do not drop like this. No one is guaranteed a starting place and no one is bigger than the club. This is one reason why I think Pogba should go - it will send a vey important message.
This will take a bit of time no doubt but I do think Ole is the man. He looks calm and collected and I’m sure between him, Mike and Carrick they will have a decent plan put in place already. I’m not expecting any big name signings this summer. I’m expecting signings like Diogo Dalot; young, talented and driven personalities.
Jose Mourinho got Zlatan , Pogba , Mkhi and Bailly in his first season here , who is Ole going to attract without UCL football next season ? He is manager without proven track record. Just because he said he is playing attacking football doesn't mean it's the reality just check out our stats for the last 10 games , pathetic.
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I understand and generally agree with your sentiment but it's a very naive and idealistic statement to make.
For one, talking about standards can't be allowed to drop. Hello, we have Ashley Young as captain embarrassing himself every week. Our standards have already dropped.
This whole 'survival of the fittest' rubbish is to motivate the existing players as he's got no money to replace them. He can't get rid so he's doing the obvious thing. There's no way he actually wants to keep these players around.
You cannot compare SAF era to now. They were stable and stayed because we were extremely successful. Why would they leave? If you put Giggs or Scholes into today's team, I have no doubt they'd be having second thoughts just like De Gea & Pogba are now.
About the notion of selling our best player to 'send a message'. Yeah great message that.
If we follow your strategy of only buying kids like Dalot, then Pogba & De Gea have every right to either ask for more money to sacrifice a year of their career or ask to leave. It's normal. You can't expect to keep your top players when you're not competing for anything.
What else do we have to offer other than money? We have no guarantee of success to offer anymore.
Lets be real, any potential top class player is only going to be joining us for money nowadays. How are you going to convince them to join our 'project' when they can go to wherever they want? Money.
We need to pay up to get us back to where we belong, unless you want a team full of squad players and kids, which good luck competing with anytime soon.
Then when we have some success to offer, we can begin to start picking and choosing.
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What the feck? How on Earth did you come to that conclusion.
If Giggs or Scholes were in our team now, we would be challenging for the title. Either one of them would completely transform our team, because first, they're leaders, second, they're actual world class and third, they would dominate the dressing room and set the expectations.
If offering players more money is the only way, then how did Liverpool or Tottenham get to where they are now? Don't the same rules apply to them? I don't see them having a broken wage structure or huge wage bill. The reality is, there is a way to get the right players even without throwing money at them and that's what we have to do.
From these comments, he's not planning to do the major clearout we need.
Why would Pogba & De Gea stay for more of the same next season with no CL too?
When they can go to a club looking to actually compete for the top trophies. Not hard to predict that they won't be itching to stay here.
Fellaini, Herrera and Valencia have already pretty much confirmed to be leaving.
Players like Darmian/Mata and Rojo extremely likely to follow.
How many did you think would leave?
Scuttlebutt says they want to leave. Ole says the players we have we be assessed in the summer, giving the impression that the sub par standard of players we have will not be getting moved on. Doesnt take rocket science to connect the dots. They wont hang around wasting thier peak years at a club with no ambitions.
Valencia/Darmian/Rojo are inconsequential, they hardly play anyway. Herrera is a blow to lose. We shouldn't be having to replace him on top of everything else. That's just incompetence.
I would happily get rid of most of them, they've proven for years they're not good enough. To hear talk of another chance just grates me. It's just frustrating that we aren't planning to replace them when other clubs seem to manage it just fine.
We're so far behind and it doesn't look like the club is doing everything in its power to succeed. It just hurts me.
His agent just add a moan hinting the player won't be here forever. Sincerely doubt the quotes can be read as a shining endorsement of Lukaku being one of his own
....and here it comes. The "give these players a change to prove themselves" spiel.
We are truly fecked.
Ole showing his inexperience there, you should know by now who is going to work out and who isn't. Maybe he's not thinking of the entire team to be fair, but I gotta say it's understandable people would be disappointed with that statement. However, no one knows how easy or difficult it will be to recruit true reinforcements. As some have mentioned, the lack of CL and a coach with very little experience and who hasn't shown a very attractive football for the most part so far could be a hindrance in recruiting players that would actually improve this team without overpaying massively.
Generally it starts going wrong for Manchester United managers when they start talking too much 
Along with....
Manchester United rebuild is long-term project, says Ole Gunnar Solskjær - The Guardian
Looks like we are settling for medriocracty. Top 4 and FA cup Is our goal.
Donald, is that you?
Do you look at our squad and think it can be fixed right away?
I know it might be asking a lot, but perhaps a few of you should actually watch Ole’s interview instead of going full retard after extracting whatever you want out of a contextless tweet.
Don’t let it get you down pal, most people realise that getting in 4 new players, shipping out 5 and promoting 1-2 is plenty of change for one Summer.
Where does this narrative come from that Woodward and the board are some cynical money grubbeing hawks? Cant believe i am actually defending them, but the Glazers basically had full control of the club by 2004, and we had plenty of good times since then, including a CL win and one of the best sided we have ever fielded between 2006-2010. They put us in huge debt yes, but they also restructured the financial side of our club, and right now we are making more money than ever, despite being comparatively shite on the pitch. No doubt Gill was a better executive than Woody, but Ferguson leaving was always going to be cataclysmic for us
Of our three former managers, only Jose moaned about the lack of financial backing and he does that every time things start going south. We all know the team is in need of a massive rebuilding job and its not like Woody and the board can pull the wool over our eyes and point at Ole if they obviously fail to back him properly. I also agree that the club structure needs some work. A DoF needs to come inn ASAP and something needs to be done with the scouting network because the last years has just been expensive mega signings or expensive flops.
My point is: I agree that the club needs a structural overhaul, but i dont think Woody and the Glazers are sitting in the boardroom sinisterly cackling in a big pile of money, its more that these are uncharted waters for them and that they have the clubs best interest at heart, they just havent quite figured it out yet
Well it's true, the jump from where we are now to being title challengers is far. It's not going to take 1 season.
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