DomesticTadpole
Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.
Don't apologise to certain people. There is not a lot to be positive about is there.
Don't apologise to certain people. There is not a lot to be positive about is there.
And that’s been the huge gap in this rebuild, Ole doesn’t even know what he’s working towards yet some still think he’s building for the next guy. Ole looks totally bemused but likes of DVB and Sancho, both good players but seemingly bought with no understanding of what toWe have a lot of good players but not a good team. Ole is just trying to squeeze everybody in without thinking about if it works or not. A great manager would have stood his ground and demanded players to fit the system he wanted to play, not buy players who are great for clicks on social media.
Why are they laughing at us? Aren't they happier with people like you that accept mediocrity?Who cares anymore? The ownership is laughing at you and cashing cheques.
Some people have been really slow to cotton on to this.More and more pundits are seeing how much he has turned us into a team who rely on individual brilliance too much
Agree. Why are they always so fecking kind to him?Wish these media guys would have the balls to ask him questions during the presser instead of the 'It is Andy Cole's birthday' and what do you think of the Newcastle takeover
It also only works if the players believe in the plan but accept they're not executing it.That only has an impact 2-3 times a season before it becomes white noise for players.
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Yeah its trueDon't apologise to certain people. There is not a lot to be positive about is there.
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Neither better or worse really. They were both terrible. I know they won a few minor cups, but that's it really.Remember when people said he was better than LvG and Jose? Real feat. to be worse than them.
The man said winning trophies are for egos. That alone shows the sort of manager he is. Clinging to league performances where we're nowhere near the top of the pile in terms of points or performances to say that that shows progress.The EL final for me was a big turning point as well. For a guy on the verge of his first major trophy, he really did not seem that bothered about winning it. Bottled every in game decision, so much so that he did feck all with subs until the last minute. Joke.
And yet, my heart still gave him one more chance after a decent transfer window. Now though, I'm really tired of seeing his teams play. Lethargic, slow, insipid. No doubt he'll go on a run of a few wins later this season as he does, but it will be too late and we'll be well out of the title race by then. Joke.
So did Poch to be fair and he lost the french league last season with PSG and failed to win the CL.The man said winning trophies are for egos. That alone shows the sort of manager he is. Clinging to league performances where we're nowhere near the top of the pile in terms of points or performances to say that that shows progress.
Winning trophies are for clubs with ambition.The man said winning trophies are for egos. That alone shows the sort of manager he is. Clinging to league performances where we're nowhere near the top of the pile in terms of points or performances to say that that shows progress.
His fecking what? The only free flowing football Ole's ever encouraged would be the footballs flowing out of the bag in trainingRonaldo changed everything and Ole probably wouldnt even wanna play him if he had choice.
Ronaldo just absolutely doesnt fit Ole's free flowing football at all and I do think he will require us to change formation and play with 2 strikers. Its just way out of Ole's depth.
With Cavani it worked cuz Cavani fit in great, Ronaldo cant.
And Poch got major stick for it on hereSo did Poch to be fair and he lost the french league last season with PSG and failed to win the CL.
And Poch has gone down in my estimation at PSG. Prior to him going there Poch was my first choice for who I wanted to be our manager, but his time there has made me reassess that. Him saying that doesn't make it any more justifiable that Ole said it either. Thinking like that is unacceptable at a club like United or PSG.So did Poch to be fair and he lost the french league last season with PSG and failed to win the CL.
Yup. For a Man Utd manager saying that winning trophies is for ego's is just absurd. Especially as Ole mocked José for finishing 2nd before he got the job himself.And Poch got major stick for it on here
I doubt Poch would ever say that at PSG. I reckon at Spurs he could say that finising higher in the table is still an achievement even if you don't win trophies since the expectations are lower, but it's still really silly to say regardless of who you are managing.And Poch has gone down in my estimation at PSG. Prior to him going there Poch was my first choice for who I wanted to be our manager, but his time there has made me reassess that. Him saying that doesn't make it any more justifiable that Ole said it either. Thinking like that is unacceptable at a club like United or PSG.
Ah okay I thought you meant he said that at PSG and I missed it. It's unacceptable to say that at any club really, but especially if you have aspirations of managing a top club. Absolute joke that we have a manager who thinks that.I doubt Poch would ever say that at PSG. I reckon at Spurs he could say that finising higher in the table is still an achievement even if you don't win trophies since the expectations are lower, but it's still really silly to say regardless of who you are managing.
When did Ole mock Mourinho for finishing 2nd?Yup. For a Man Utd manager saying that winning trophies is for ego's is just absurd. Especially as Ole mocked José for finishing 2nd before he got the job himself.
When he was at Molde. There is a clip of it somewhere, but I don't have it. Mocked is perhaps a strong word, but he just thought it was unimpressive since mou was managing united.When did Ole mock Mourinho for finishing 2nd?
We only have a half of one single DM in our entire squad in Matic, so I doubt it.We're gonna play with 5 DMs on Sunday, aren't we?
Sure, but there is a reason good players demand high fees and world class players demand even higher ones. If it was just the case of finding the right players then you could have Pep walking the league with the likes of Norwich and thats not just happeningLikes of Varane and Ronaldo will be fine but they’ll be changes, anyone who thinks next manager is carrying on where Ole left off is in a dreamworld. Everyone has different opinions and a good player isn’t necessarily the right player.
If Ole gets the sack then his rebuild has failed, can’t be dressed up any other way.
I remember him vividly saying 2nd is poor for United.When did Ole mock Mourinho for finishing 2nd?
Spot on. This is all it comes down to.Come on. Are you suggesting players like Maguire, Varane, Bruno, Sancho and Ronaldo are going to be completely useless if there is another man sat in the dugout? Of course different managers prefer players with different skillsets, but its not like its going to be a pack of bulldogs trying to herd sheep
If we had swapped Van Dijk for Lindelof its not like the former suddenly was going to turn to shit just because he was no longer playing under Klopp. Ronaldo is still going to be a world class poacher and Pogba and Bruno is still going to have amazing vision and passing ability after Ole leaves
At the start of the season, 95% of this forum was expecting a league challenge. As it seems Ole is not up to the task, but that does not mean the players are suddenly bad
Its been repeated on here ad nauseum, but good managers make do with what they got and manage to create a team that is greater than the sum of its parts. Ole has seemingly failed in that regard, but unless you get some extreme philosophy idealist like Pep you dont need to tailor suit the squad to the managers needs
There is a video where he is saying that 2nd place is not good for Man Utd. While he was in MoldeWhen did Ole mock Mourinho for finishing 2nd?
Half season doesn't count (it is free pass for all managers), no pre-season, not his squad, no transfers.....etc....etc...So did Poch to be fair and he lost the french league last season with PSG and failed to win the CL.
If a good player is a good player then why do managers want different players, why do players perfofrm differently at different clubs or at the same club under different managers?. Why do managers have different opinions of players if someone is either just good or bad, it’s total nonsense.Sure, but there is a reason good players demand high fees and world class players demand even higher ones. If it was just the case of finding the right players then you could have Pep walking the league with the likes of Norwich and thats not just happening
When Ole took over we had more holes in our squad than a swiss cheese and besides a quality DM, all those have been adressed and then some. The number one argument for replacing Ole among his critics have been that "a competent manager would walk the league with this squad", and while that is hyperbole its some truth to it aswell because the squad on paper is more than capable of competing for the big prizes.
Another key thing is the age profile of the players he has brought in. While Jose bought players for the now, Ole has mostly bought players for the future.
Maguire and Varane are just entering their prime as CB's. AWB is only 23 and has plenty of room for growth. Its not that long ago people were calling Shaw a fat crock and look at him now. Bruno is also entering his prime years, Sancho, Pellestri and Diallo are all very young
Cavani and Ronaldo are old as shite, but the attitude, experiece and mentality they bring is invaluable. Two years from now, we could line up like this
------------------------------Henderson (26)-------------------------
AWB(25)-----Maguire(30)-----Varane(30)-----Shaw(27)
-----------------------Pogba(30)-----Fred(30)-----------------------
-----------------------------------Bruno(29)-----------------------------
-Sancho(23)--------Greenwood(22)---------Rashford(25)
Besides that questionable midfield, thats a good team with an average age of just 26,9. Considering the average age of key players in league winning teams tend to be at around 27-28, i dont get the bleak outlook.
That’s been taken out of context & Ole is sharing the same sentiment that most on here would use as an excuse to bat him with:The man said winning trophies are for egos. That alone shows the sort of manager he is. Clinging to league performances where we're nowhere near the top of the pile in terms of points or performances to say that that shows progress.
I'd take that ego boost when we're still shit than not getting anything and we're still shit too.He’s saying that if you win a trophy it does not hide the fact that there are still issues within the club, which is right, if we won the EL, it would just act as an ego boost to hide the fact we’re still shite.