This. There is no way he would have been able to function in this team. Besides, Levy wouldn’t have sold to us anyway.
Only Sheffield United have scored fewer EPL goals than us
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First choice attack should be Rashford, Sancho and Mount really. At least they all have done it at some point in their careers at a high level. The current front 3 haven’t proven that and don’t look like doing it at the moment.
Once the geniuses here find this post they’ll berate you that no way Levy would have accepted an offer 120m for Kane.
one day later and i still can’t believe it.
Being realistic I don’t think he’d have made us title challengers given the state of us so far this season. However he’s phenomenal at linking play and would have made our attack so much more of a unit. We’d be semi watchable at least.
Title challengers no, without a doubt. We’re weaker at the keeper position now than we were last year, but in attack we would have been vastly with the addition of Kane instead of Hojlund. Hojlund is nowhere near the same galaxy as Kane, who’s not only a great finisher but also, as you correctly note, brilliant at link up play.
A fukking shame we spent a huge sum on players we didn’t need and made us worse instead players we did need and would have made us better.
I've said this before, but a player like Firmino would solve a lot of problems (dropping into midfield, pressing, playing wide players in, etc). The question is, who can they get that fits that mold?
Because he wouldn't have. Just accept it so you can move on.
This is completely on this manager. Our front 3 are Garnacho Hojlund Antony. 2 of them are young and upcoming players and other one is toothless. He spent £150m on Antony and Hojlund knowing fully well how raw and inconsistent that frontline would be. You don’t spend that kind of money and hope for goals especially when you don’t have a system to rely on.
Sheffield United are catching up 
There’s a player who did the role well in pre-season but he has only had minutes off the bench in left-wing this season…
Blades scored four today.
It's crazy to me that there are people who think we have a future under Ten Hag. We could end the season with the lowest amount of goals scored in the league at this rate! Even after we sort our recruitment out I wouldn't want us to spend another penny on players for this manager.
Walking, sulking, and doing absolutely nothing respectively. Not sure these three should even make the bench for United. Mount maybe gets the benefit of the doubt but the others are terrible.
Do you know what is even worse about this stat? You’d expect us to at least compensate for our weaknesses in attack by being defensively solid.
Yet, as per whoscored, we concede the third most shots in the league: https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...amStatistics/England-Premier-League-2023-2024
(Click on defensive and the shots pg metric)
Luton concede 17.7 per game, Blades concede 17.4 per game and we concede 15.7 per game (on average).
These stats are even funnier when you consider that our build-up shape is 3-1-6. We literally play 6 players in forward positions. We get torn apart on the counter regularly and concede so many shots, yet we are outscored by every team except relegation cannon fodder.
But I guess this all the fault of the owners, structure, Sancho playing FIFA, unprofessional players etc. etc.
Absolutely nothing to do with the stubborn manager who persists with the same ineffective tactics while the numbers show they have not been working. And to consider that many still think that he deserves time and he will turn it around… !
Yet, as per whoscored, we concede the third most shots in the league: https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...amStatistics/England-Premier-League-2023-2024
(Click on defensive and the shots pg metric)
Luton concede 17.7 per game, Blades concede 17.4 per game and we concede 15.7 per game (on average).
These stats are even funnier when you consider that our build-up shape is 3-1-6. We literally play 6 players in forward positions. We get torn apart on the counter regularly and concede so many shots, yet we are outscored by every team except relegation cannon fodder.
But I guess this all the fault of the owners, structure, Sancho playing FIFA, unprofessional players etc. etc.
Absolutely nothing to do with the stubborn manager who persists with the same ineffective tactics while the numbers show they have not been working. And to consider that many still think that he deserves time and he will turn it around… !
Rashford scored more league goals in one month earlier this year than Antony has scored in his entire United career.
January 1st, the team has scored 22 goals, only the 2 newly promoted teams Burnley and Sheffield have scored less goals than Manchester United. Let that sink in.
Inexcusable.
What is also intresting is the distribution of this sample. 40% of our goals was scored in 3 games, meaning that in other 17 games we scored 13. Let that sink in
Really makes you wonder why they pushed the Covid vaccines on us so hard.
The attack this and for large parts of last season is the most ineffective in decades as a United team. If we look at ETH 58 PL games his teams have scored 80 PL goals that’s 1.37 goals per game but this is the most alarming stat this season they’ve scored 22 from 20 games which is 1.1 goals so his United team is actually getting worse by game, 50% loss record this season, the Eric simply needs to go, United is far too big a club for him and his level is probably Ajax, Dortmund, Roma, Valencia.
None of the Elite clubs will touch him after this and Dutch egoistical stubborn managers status is very much like their national team, once revered for good reason but now on a massive decline compared to other international teams and coaches.
There’s a reason why no Dutch Coach has ever won the PL!
None of the Elite clubs will touch him after this and Dutch egoistical stubborn managers status is very much like their national team, once revered for good reason but now on a massive decline compared to other international teams and coaches.
There’s a reason why no Dutch Coach has ever won the PL!
And some say Ralf season is worse than this one
Martinez is injured
Luton have scored more PL goals than us this season let that sink in!
Inexcusable. Ten Hag has failed in making us an attractive attacking team. We’ve simply not progressed anywhere near enough.
Luton have a better structure and players! Or something like that
The craziest thing to me is we have less goals scored than Brentford. Their main striker has been out all season and their top scorers are Mbeumo, Jensen, Wissa and Neil fecking Maupay.
There is no excuse in this world to justify our lack of goals this season and 20 games is a really big sample size. You can say none of the attackers are starting quality but to be historically bad it points to a coaching issue more than anything.
There is no excuse in this world to justify our lack of goals this season and 20 games is a really big sample size. You can say none of the attackers are starting quality but to be historically bad it points to a coaching issue more than anything.
We're sleepwalking into mediocrity. It won't be long before Chelsea overtake us in the table.
That is mental
How many threads do we need? Yeah everyone knows we're shite and ETH will hopefully be gone when Ineos take over, but right now the club is in a state of limbo and there's nothing anyone can do.
Fewer
It’s worse when you think about what his Ajax team did in 2018/19, scoring 4 past Real Madrid and scoring 175 goals that season. Scored 119 in the league and you can say that’s only Eredivisie but they scored 35 in the Champions League campaign that year too. At least if we played like we did in the Champions League the results might not be any better but at least you’d have more goals and moments to cheer on.
They don’t have better players that’s ridiculous!
ETH supporters will tell you that Luton have a better structure and better players.
Nope.
Garnacho has to be there
You need more than pretty triangles and high regains to make chances in the PL. You have to be brave with your passing, pass through the lines and get numbers in the box.
We have numbers outside the box playing in triangles and noone in the box. We have noone running from deep into central areas and we play a very limited numbers of passes through the lines in central areas. Everything goes wide into triangles created by the winger, full back and number 8. One striker left to fend for themselves in the box. Almost the same as LVG. Which also resulted in a criminally small number of goals/chances. It just doesn't work in the epl the defenders are too fast and to physical to well drilled.
We play to slow, without enough bravery on the ball.
It's an ETH issue.
We have numbers outside the box playing in triangles and noone in the box. We have noone running from deep into central areas and we play a very limited numbers of passes through the lines in central areas. Everything goes wide into triangles created by the winger, full back and number 8. One striker left to fend for themselves in the box. Almost the same as LVG. Which also resulted in a criminally small number of goals/chances. It just doesn't work in the epl the defenders are too fast and to physical to well drilled.
We play to slow, without enough bravery on the ball.
It's an ETH issue.
I can't deal with all this SINKING IN!
Have you personally let this all sink in?
I agree, he's had two good games since I posted that. And some good ones earlier in the season. Was a bit harsh on him, he should start at the moment. Two of the other three should also though I think. Sancho obviously won't while Ten Hag is still there.
We move the ball sloooow and our wide players only want to score themselves so they almost always come to the inside into all the traffic. If they cross the ball it is an afterthought after the attempt to shoot has failed. It's so unpredictable that our own players don't know when to make runs. Then you have our full backs who barely overlap and can't cross. Luke Shaw is the exception but he doesn't have the legs anymore to get up and down the field consistently without risking injury. That's why he's being moved to CB.
I think sometimes this is overcomplicated. Almost every other team is scoring more goals than us and they don't have fancy patterns of play and 100m strikers. Forest let us have a bit of possession between the 30th and 40th minutes and it was amazing to watch how toothless we were. I'm going to watch it again just to laugh.
I think sometimes this is overcomplicated. Almost every other team is scoring more goals than us and they don't have fancy patterns of play and 100m strikers. Forest let us have a bit of possession between the 30th and 40th minutes and it was amazing to watch how toothless we were. I'm going to watch it again just to laugh.