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  • Pellistri
  • van de Beek
  • McTominay
  • Gore
  • Mejbri
  • Kambwala
In terms of potential game changers, can anyone list a bench from another top half PL team which is worse than what we had available yesterday? Can anyone name a worse Manchester United bench at any time in PL history?

I don’t really know how we ended up here but our lack of firepower on the bench is really quite something. PL teams aside, the gulf in quality between our subs and those of top CL sides is astonishing.
 

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Over a billion spent over the past decade and this is the squad we end up with.
 

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These threads come around so often. We’ve got a crap starting XI. Squad depth is an issue way down the line.
 

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In terms of potential game changers, can anyone list a bench from another top half PL team which is worse than what we had available yesterday? Can anyone name a worse Manchester United bench at any time in PL history?

I don’t really know how we ended up here but our lack of firepower on the bench is really quite something. PL teams aside, the gulf in quality between our subs and those of top CL sides is astonishing.
To be fair that bench could age quite well with Diallo, Gore, Mejbri and Kambwala. Not having a striker on the bench is insane though.
 

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Jaysus that’s dreadful. This is what you get I suppose when you hang on to footballers like Martial (second choice Cf) and Sancho (second choice winger going into the season). We are an indecisive football club that lacks ruthlessness and competence from top to bottom.
 

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When we beat Arsenal 3-2 at OT under Van Gaal, this was our bench

Januzaj, Romero, McNair, Pereira, Weir, Riley, Fosu-Mensah
 

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We were missing Mount, Hojlund, Martial, Sancho through various reasons.

We went into the season light on attacking options. So it's no surprise when we're missing 4 of them the squad looks threadbare.
 

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Under normal circumstances it could have been:

Maguire
Lindelöf
Shaw
Malacia
Casemiro
Amrabat
Mount
Sancho
Martial
Höjlund
 

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For various reasons the bench could also have been:

Martinez
Casemiro
Mount
Maguire
Martial
Shaw
Hojlund
Sancho
Lindelof
Amrabat
Malacia

We can’t use it as an excuse but we really are suffering from absentees.
 

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We’ve got to this point because Martinez, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Malacia, Hojlund, Martial, Casemiro, Mount, Sancho and Amrabat were all unavailable. Most of them have been unavailable for the majority of the season. When you take 11 senior players out of a squad the bench likely isn’t going to be very strong.
 

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Fergie always had 3/4 strikers as well. We have an injury prone couldnt care less player, a raw young but good potential player and a LW player who occasionally turns up. Not one of them are good enough to be what should be our main striker and two out of the three should start on the bench. Hojlund should be the go to striker when our main striker needs the odd rest or late into the game coming on. Martial should be sold imo asap and Rashford should be looked at end of season.
 

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For various reasons the bench could also have been:

Martinez
Casemiro
Mount
Maguire
Martial
Shaw
Hojlund
Sancho
Lindelof
Amrabat
Malacia

We can’t use it as an excuse but we really are suffering from absentees.
You could probably also add Greenwood to this, who ETH probably thought he was going to have available this season. Theres still not enough being said about how many injuries we've suffered from this season, every game we've had atleast 8 players missing.
 

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Fergie always had 3/4 strikers as well. We have an injury prone couldnt care less player, a raw young but good potential player and a LW player who occasionally turns up. Not one of them are good enough to be what should be our main striker and two out of the three should start on the bench. Hojlund should be the go to striker when our main striker needs the odd rest or late into the game coming on. Martial should be sold imo asap and Rashford should be looked at end of season.
The lack of depth we have in the one position Fergie used to prioritise over all others must be driving him up the wall.
 

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Lots of injuries to attacking players and a self-indicted wound with Sancho, and counting in Greenwood at the start of the season. It is very grim though, no doubt about it. We seem to target lots of injury-prone players and for whatever reasons, lots of players become injury-prone when they sign for us.

This should be the first thing to check for next signings under the new regime. It shouldn’t matter how good a player is if he misses 1/3 of the season because of injuries.
 

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When we beat Arsenal 3-2 at OT under Van Gaal, this was our bench

Januzaj, Romero, McNair, Pereira, Weir, Riley, Fosu-Mensah
Since then, Jose, Ole and ETH have spent about a billion, so we might expect a slightly better squad in general.
 

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Let’s not overlook the injury list. Maguire, Lindelof, Martinez, Shaw, Malacia, and Casemiro, and then mental injury to Sancho. When you lose that many players, your bench is going to be thin.
 

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Are we seriously trying to make the subs Bench as an excuse for man united not being able to beat Notts forest......
 

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We seem to be the only club that can’t manage to keep a few decent bench players happy/fit. Then again we haven’t had a few decent bench players that can offer something different or an injection of energy in a long time. Our academy players are usually the best bet.
 

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This is what happens when you keep trusting the same injury prone players. Any top club would have shipped out the likes of martial long back but we persisted with them.
 

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That is with Rashford, Garnacho, Mainoo and Evans starting (academy products)... McT, Kambwalla, Gore, Hannibal are academy products too.. 8 out of the 18 didnt cost anything (about 10m)

I know we have injuries, but what the feck have we spent so much money on?

Out of the attacking players, just Hojlund and Martial were missing (forget Sancho) .. that front 4 is not that heavily impacted.. we have struggled to create and score all season.. there is no excuse for that.
It's a poor squad after spending insane amounts of money..
 

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Over a billion spent over the past decade and this is the squad we end up with.
Hojlund, Casemiro, Lindelof, Martinez, Martial, Maguire, Mount, Sancho, Shaw, Malacia & Amrabat would have no doubt strengthened that bench had they been available. As we're missing an entire out field team, it's never going to look good.
 

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Hojlund, Casemiro, Lindelof, Martinez, Martial, Maguire, Mount, Sancho, Shaw, Malacia & Amrabat would have no doubt strengthened that bench had they been available. As we're missing an entire out field team, it's never going to look good.
The state of our squad in general after such heavy investment is more my point. Yes, that bench yesterday was particularly bad, but overall, our squad is poor and disjointed.
 
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The lack of depth we have in the one position Fergie used to prioritise over all others must be driving him up the wall.
Exactly. We dont score enough goals, we got strikers who are not very good, we have very limited options upfront, we dont score enough goals...its like a never ending circle.
 

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This was rather ropey the other night for Spurs:
  • 11 Gil
  • 15 Dier
  • 18 Lo Celso
  • 20 Forster
  • 35 Phillips
  • 36 Véliz
  • 58 de Santiago Alonso
  • 63 Donley
  • 65 Dorrington
Our match against them in a couple of weeks will be fun, when they'll be missing Sarr and Son from their starting lineup, weakening that bench further.
 

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That's directly related to our the players injured ,isn't it ? When you have half of your squad injured, you will have a weak bench unless you are City obviously.
 

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Exactly. We dont score enough goals, we got strikers who are not very good, we have very limited options upfront, we dont score enough goals...its like a never ending circle.
We don't have a striker. It's criminal to pin all hopes on a 20 year old kid. Management should have got one experienced striker in the summer.
 

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The state of our squad in general after such heavy investment is more my point. Yes, that bench yesterday was particularly bad, but overall, our squad is poor and disjointed.
City have invested as heavily as we have as an example. Out of interest how would their bench look if they had Dias, Stones, Akanji, Gvardiol, Lewis, Rodri, De Bruyne, Kovacic, Grealish, Haaland and Alvarez out?
 
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  • Gore
  • Mejbri
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In terms of potential game changers, can anyone list a bench from another top half PL team which is worse than what we had available yesterday? Can anyone name a worse Manchester United bench at any time in PL history?

I don’t really know how we ended up here but our lack of firepower on the bench is really quite something. PL teams aside, the gulf in quality between our subs and those of top CL sides is astonishing.
We have an astomishing injury list, literally all season long. Not to mention a key talent missing through self suspension (Sancho) but most people prefer to pretend we are at full strength and have just recruited badly.
 
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For various reasons the bench could also have been:

Martinez
Casemiro
Mount
Maguire
Martial
Shaw
Hojlund
Sancho
Lindelof
Amrabat
Malacia

We can’t use it as an excuse but we really are suffering from absentees.
People really need to stop conflating fact with excuses. Its stone cold fact missing that many first teamers hurts us badly. Because we are not a City nor Arsenal level of team.