We're on course to be only 8 points better off than last season. We're in a final, but we haven't won anything yet. The team does play a much better brand of football, more in line with the clubs identity, and We're a lot more resilient as we can see by the number of points we picked up from losing positions and the number of late goals We're scoring. So progress is there but We're further away from competing than a lot of fans realise.
Our Progress
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It’s the lack of depth beyond our first team that worries me most. In my opinion, it would be criminal to start next season with just one quality central defender in Maguire.
City could literally field 2 top title-chasing sides from their entire squad of players. We are mid-table quality beyond the first 11.
City could literally field 2 top title-chasing sides from their entire squad of players. We are mid-table quality beyond the first 11.
Won't even get to Maureen's 81 points.
Spent 250m to end up 10 points worse but progress apparently. Make it make sense
Spent 250m to end up 10 points worse but progress apparently. Make it make sense
Major difference from where you start.
And to be honest there's not a better way to measure improvement is there? And it's actually in favour of Ole. If we look at our games and how we've performed I don't see any improvement from last year at all.
As far as preparation goes it’s fecking shit.
If we lose the final, god help Ole.
Everything you say challenging the current situation which even remotely hints at questioning the management is considered knee jerk here. You should know this by now.
I'm still unsure where we are, as mad as it sounds.
Either this is the best it'll get under Ole or the best it yet to come.
Either this is the best it'll get under Ole or the best it yet to come.
I mean your argument that we would have had more points had we won the last 3 games we didn't is quite idiotic. Did you use this to defend our previous managers or just Ole?
It was a minor trophy when Mourinho won it. And so was the 82 point finish. Now the arguments are tailored to suit the apologetic narrative.There are two European competitions mate. We're in the minor one and got kicked out of the major one. Lowest points total for a second place team in about 20 years. This is after a low point total to get top 4 last year. Major European cup
Well we performed much better that season so there's that
It's a major cup. It's a European Cup. It's a major european cup. English is hard.There are two European competitions mate. We're in the minor one and got kicked out of the major one. Lowest points total for a second place team in about 20 years. This is after a low point total to get top 4 last year. Major European cup
We'd just like some consistency, rather than the same faces who are telling us the manager needs to go because he's not being getting enough out of the players then moving to the transfer forum to say we need 5-6 starting XI players in the summer.
There is though. Treble winning team got 78 points. Each season is different and let's say city weren't so far ahead, there's no way we'd have only got 5 in 15 in last games. We'll probably drop points v wolves by playing weak team which might not happen another year. The mentality is the biggest concern. Top players and top teams don't pack it in after top 4 is confirmed
The best way to prepare for the final is to keep the winning momentum. Not sure how not winning any of the last 4 games is a good preparation.
why not bump one of your other threads then as I'm sure if this isn't knee jerk and you've been asking for a while they'll surely be one no and not just tonight after a draw
Clearly it is since you don't know what the word major means.It's a major cup. It's a European Cup. It's a major european cup. English is hard.
I know, exactly! It's such an odd point to make "if we did this" Well...we didn't
do you have to be abusive when someone disagrees with you?
At the end of Jose’s second season we finished 18 points off City and was fair reflection of gulf in quality in terms of manager and players. 15 points this season is also a fair reflection, if there isn’t huge investment and Ole doesn’t have a lot more to offer we’re more likely to go backward next season than close that gap.
It is though, right? We've been able to disregard the last 5 games of the season, knowing we are comfortably qualifying and in all probability finishing in second place.
We don't know that. We've looked shit since the Roma first leg.
What are you talking about, we beat Roma 6-2 and that showed all the ridiculous posters on here that we are great, play great football and they are to be ridiculed and shamed for suggesting that we aren't.
Alright let's all overreact to us dropping points in games that have 0 beating on our final standing at the end of the season...
We're 2nd, in the europa league final with a hugely improved general performance throughout the season. Good chance we finish 2nd and with a trophy. Not sure why anyone would claim that isn't progress. Mentality we need to do a bit more at finding consistency, as right now we vary way too much through a game, either sloppy when it means nothing or amazing when we are up against it and everyone is fully focused. We got a lot better with it but take out any pressure in the league and well, yeah, you'll see some very mediocre performances. Happens always at the end of the season though.
We're 2nd, in the europa league final with a hugely improved general performance throughout the season. Good chance we finish 2nd and with a trophy. Not sure why anyone would claim that isn't progress. Mentality we need to do a bit more at finding consistency, as right now we vary way too much through a game, either sloppy when it means nothing or amazing when we are up against it and everyone is fully focused. We got a lot better with it but take out any pressure in the league and well, yeah, you'll see some very mediocre performances. Happens always at the end of the season though.
Is the gotcha here that Ole isn't as good a manager as the greatest to ever do it? Hands up, you've got me there sergeant.
I'm just checking and it still looks like Andy Cole got brought off with 9 minutes to go in a European Cup Final we were losing. But bringing off a striker in a meaningless PL game is where you draw the line.
Almost as laughable as losing your shit over dead rubber games.According to one poster here, we are in. "cruise control".
Because every game has been entirely meaningless since that first leg? Take the pressure off and every game becomes somewhat unpredictable (City Newcastle finishing 4-3 the other day is a perfect example).
You miserable gits
Ouchie! Just look up what cruise control means.Almost as laughable as losing your shit over dead rubber games.
He wouldn't have brought on a midfielder instead. Especially not one that hasn't looked a proper footballer since joining us.
Back peddle back peddle BACK PEDDLE!
Because I haven’t posted a thread in about ten years. Here’s some recent posts comparing to 2018.
You mean he'd have two Premier League goalscoring machines sat on the bench, instead? What a novel idea, we should give that a go.
It doesn't meaning 'winning,' no matter how hard you try. Whoopsie.
It's back pedal . English is clearly too difficult for youBack peddle back peddle BACK PEDDLE!
I'm trying to remain optimistic as we all should - but things like AWB simply not being coached or not listening is really concerning.
A few times earlier in the season he got caught looking towards the ball on the opposite flank, and forgetting that he's supposed to be marking somone. Fine, he's young.
But it's now a year later and he's doing the exact same thing. Either the coaches aren't telling him or he's not listening.
Similarly, we've conceded 14 goals from set pieces. That's unforgiveable how much posession we have and how few we should be condeding.
A few times earlier in the season he got caught looking towards the ball on the opposite flank, and forgetting that he's supposed to be marking somone. Fine, he's young.
But it's now a year later and he's doing the exact same thing. Either the coaches aren't telling him or he's not listening.
Similarly, we've conceded 14 goals from set pieces. That's unforgiveable how much posession we have and how few we should be condeding.
feck sake. There's a thread in the general this type of abdomination belongs. In fairness are am pretty drunk. Honest!And if we don't win that trophy could you still in all conscience call this season progress?
Because points wise it isn't (well, barely). In terms of performances and results in the big games we've gone backwards alarmingly. And we haven't been able to string together two solid halves of good football all season.